1600 into 1300 will it go?

[JC]

PS, my money is  on RJ 

[rubjonny]

no, it does not require 'major work'.  the 1.3 and 1.6 engines both sit right on the same engine mounts.  Dont beleive me?  Have a look here http://www.vwspares.co.uk/g2other.php, check out the engine mounts...

[DarnPB]

Well that's confused the poor chap! Ar RJ has said, 1.6 will fit straight in, but as also said, some modification to the fuel plumbing and ancilliaries may be required. It depends on how good the shell is as to whether you think it is worth doing or not.

[oldngrey]

Hi,
Thank you to every one who has posted a reply. There's certainly something to think about here. In reply to Kharekatoh it's not a case of wanting to have a 1.6 it's a case of trying to find a solution to the problem as stated. 1.3 engines seem to be thin on the ground while a 1.6 may be available locally - if it fits it might solve the problem. Any other views or ideas, please post them! Thanks again for  comments / ideas already posted. Cheers, Rich

[Dolly]

if your going through the trouble of replacing the engine, you can pick up 8v gti's for next to nothing and from my personal experiance cause less problems then the 1600 driver. alot simpler in my opinion 2.

[Ben Lessani]

You'll hate this answer, but most of the posts you see on this forum are ... what bigger engine fits in my car ...

My thoughts, get an insurance quote on a GTi and see if its going to cost you much more, because once you get the 1600, you'll only want more power 6 months down the line.

Infact, skip the middle and just fit the ABF

I can't believe a workshop didn't measure the head to see if it had been skimmed before though? If you really want to keep the 1.3, you can always machine the pistons down a fraction to stop the interferance?

[rubjonny]

MK2/3 polos are a good source for 1.3 engines, and also if you can find them MK3 Golf & SEATs.  THe ABD 1.4 MK3 Golf/SEAT lump has the same head as a Polo GT apparently, but you need to check it still has the fuel pump hole on the back of the head.

The fuel lines wont need touching except maybe some new rubber line so they reach as on the 1.6 the pump is on the front, you'll need a 1.6-1.8 exhast system and all the engine brackets from the block + the gearbox.  Also you need all the gearbox linkages + the gear shifter too.  Sounds scary but since the zaust is coming off anyway the shifter is only 4 bolts in the tunnel.

Its all bolt off, bolt on stuff once you source everything though.

[oldngrey]

Hi,
Again thank you for all your replies. In reply to those who have suggested going down the GTI route my son is only just 21 and I'm sure lots of you know what a killer the cost of insurance is, plus he's a student with not much of an income at the moment and that would be just about impossible. Any more ideas, thoughts or possibliities please post them! Thank you, Rich

[Ben Lessani]

I'm only 22, was 21 when I first insured myself on the Golf - it came to about £600 with mods declared. When I reinsured this year, more mods declared £370

Insuring a GTi isn't quite as expsenive as you may think. I'd do a few quotes if I were you, bell.co.uk

[VR6_ROB]

I had a gti when i was 20 insurance was around £700 with everything declared
if he is mad on the old golf he will proberly want to take this route int he future