Standard GTI and Edition 30 Differences.....

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I prefer'd the ride quality on the Std GTi, not quite as jittery or (bump wallow)

Erm, a standard GTI on 18"s will have EXACTLY the same ride quality as an Ed30 - because they have identical suspension.  The only thing which would make a difference in ride quality is differing tyres.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

a good spec one, a year old.... about 16k
Pistonheads website, best place for cared for cars, or your pay more at a VW dealer and sting you for the extra's the car has over a more basic version.

Your joking.  The Pistonheads site is riddled with scam ads, just like fleabay.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

a good spec one, a year old.... about 16k
Pistonheads website, best place for cared for cars, or your pay more at a VW dealer and sting you for the extra's the car has over a more basic version.

The line the dealers tell you ( it makes no difference what Factory fit extra's it has come trade in) yet your pay the premium price when buying from their forecourt.

Private seller best bargain.16k good spec, your on a winner 

I'm on the look now for a nice Ed30, hence joining you chaps yesterday & posting in the wanted (in case anyone hears of a nice one locally).

I thought I would call the local stealer late Friday to enquire if anything was heading in.
Lovely email back........................'08 car, sensors, cruise & MFSW...........wait for it...........£19,450.00.

A very nice response sent back, explaining to him '08 examples up for 2.5k-4k less than his sourced car, my view on the economy & the motoring industry & what I am expecting this year in business.

OBVIOUSLY...................The worlds down turn is not effecting our local Norfolk VW dealership.

Robinsons, Cookes or KL VW?

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Well having driven both extensively, i cant tell the difference on pick-up but from 50 onwards, the ed30 really does push on better.

Dont always believe what the Journo's write about.

And don't always believe what Phil Mcavity writes! 

The KO4 versions definately have more turbo lag and less bottom-end torque compared to the standard GTI.  But yes, the standard GTI does loose out to the Ed30 from about 5,000 rpm.  However, an S3 or Forge (or both) intercooler on a standard GTI will dramatically free up the top end.

[Saint Steve]

I prefer'd the ride quality on the Std GTi, not quite as jittery or (bump wallow)

Erm, a standard GTI on 18"s will have EXACTLY the same ride quality as an Ed30 - because they have identical suspension.  The only thing which would make a difference in ride quality is differing tyres.

And you owned both models??? or am i dreaming and you text book of knowledge is more then someones personal experiance and others that have owner std GTi's and Ed30's.

You own a std GTi and an RS4, so how do you know in "the real world" the difference if youve not lived with an Edition 30???

oh and just for you T_T

All in my opinion   

[Saint Steve]

a good spec one, a year old.... about 16k
Pistonheads website, best place for cared for cars, or your pay more at a VW dealer and sting you for the extra's the car has over a more basic version.

Your joking.  The Pistonheads site is riddled with scam ads, just like fleabay.

ok perhaps as you put it, wherever you try and find a used car , you have the chance of being "scammed" 

I think the O.P knows that i was trying to be helpful 

[Saint Steve]

Well having driven both extensively, i cant tell the difference on pick-up but from 50 onwards, the ed30 really does push on better.

Dont always believe what the Journo's write about.

And don't always believe what Phil Mcavity writes! 

The KO4 versions definately have more turbo lag and less bottom-end torque compared to the standard GTI.  But yes, the standard GTI does loose out to the Ed30 from about 5,000 rpm.  However, an S3 or Forge (or both) intercooler on a standard GTI will dramatically free up the top end.

and to add Teutonic Tamer doesnt Always knows what he writes!!!, leave that for you to Chew over and Disect like you do so well 

Oh welcome back btw, Youve been resting i guess 

[TagnuT]

Does anyone know where there are Dyno or RR graphs comparing the two engines? Just wanted to see what the differences in "delivery" was...

[Saint Steve]

have a look on jkm's website tagnut from Last years Rolling road day, there was a good selection of both models.

There again, i talk Bollox in some peoples eyes and i may be not be posting helpful info 

IMO

 

http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/GalleryRollingroad.htm

[clive]

You'll find results for both a stock GTI and ED30 here:

http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/GalleryGTI041008.htm

edit.. Phil got there before me