engine mounts,?

[Mrpug]

Hey guys & gals, it's been a while, missed you guys .  I've got a 89 mk2 16v 1.8. I'm thinking the engine mounts are going bad or are bad. Let me know what you think. When accelerating, it sounds like the down pipe is trying to come through the floor pan. shifting is tough, hard to put in 1st gear, but goes into each gear when shifting with some resistance. The transmmission has just been rebuilt within the last 4 months, When in gear and goosing the throttle the shift lever movesforward & backwards knocking happens on the passenger side floor pan where your feet sit . are these some of the signs that the mounts have thrown in the towel? who would have  good replacements at a fair price. cheers mates.

[rubjonny]

gsf or avs, go for the cheaper bonded rubber front and gearbox to start with, if it still has movement do the rear engine mount.  I'd go for the more expensive 16v/G60 one

[Mrpug]

gsf or dvs?  what are those I'm bad with abrev. Also my a/c compressor what do I need to elemite it? i've got vbelts, do I get a longer belt or is there a way to relocate the altinator bracket?  Or is it just a bolt on transfer what is the site or link w/ pics.

[Diamond Hell]

German Swedish French - nationwide auto factor.

Or EuroCarParts.

It may be that the engine and gearbox have been settled too far back on the mounts after the transmission was out.  Loosen the mounting bolts and hoick the unit forwards, then re-tighten the bolts and see if that makes any difference.

If it's only been doing it since a rebuild, I'd take it to the place that did the rebuild, if they installed it.

If you do replace the mounts, go 1.3 Golf back gearbox mount, standard front mount and Corrado G60 rear engine mount - nice tight set up.

[rubjonny]

http://www.gsfcarparts.com
http://www.vwspares.co.uk

as for a/c removal, the alternator bracket & pulley setup needs to be swapped for a non-a/c 16v one, also bear in mind PAS/non-PAS alternator brackets are also different.  I dont think you'll have much trouble finding someone who wants to swap with you though

16v & G60 (and corrado) rear engine mount:
http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=607

1.3 (and late 16v) bonded rubber gearbox mount:
http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=786

1.3 & 16v bonded rubber front mount:
http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=784

[Mrpug]

Thanks for the information. that'll point me in a good direction. Now if some one wants to trade brackets a/c to non a/c, who knows I might let the compressor and system  under the hood go for a fair price. The a/c clutch needs to be replaced. Other than that I believe the system should be ok, still sealed up.pm me or post. good day mates, Mike.

[rubjonny]

pm mattneck/beavis on here, I gave him a load of kr +pas brackets, but I dont know if he sold em on since.  other option for you is to convert to a mk3 alt/pas setup, you can use everything from a 1.8-2.0 8v, but you need an ABF 2.0 16v crank pulley for the belts to line up.

[sharki786]

I had sme prob, wen i change gear it felt lyk the engine was gna cum out n attack me so wa i did was get sum1 2 look at the engine while i started it up, so by luck i changed the front mount that has made the engine more stiffer n now it dnt wna attack me  but as i didnt do it in time my down pipe is blowin the flexijoin get it replaced asap then ul find out what the next prob is.

[Mrpug]

hey mates,thanks for the feed back. I was looking around for inexpensive repair or a way to posibly firm up the mounts untill I could go the really nice way. My brother suggested window weld. "I asked him what or why for the mounts? a inexpansive way to repair the mounts & stiffen them up at the same time. come to find out it's a polyurithane.  (polyurithane) + mounts. So I looked around to research this suggestion, come to find out it's done to help out mounts to filll in the gaps in the mounts = stiffness. So I'm going to try this since alot of fwd guys use it in place of the really expensive stuff. Please don't lench me up.... honda drivers do this and swear by it. even the big hp guys. so I picked some up at the parts house, for about 17 dollars it's worth a try. I'll let you all know how this goes. Good or bad. I  also found out that the UK guys can use a 2 part epoxy (loctight makes it), because the window stuff is not avialable or hard to find. Cheers.  ps I probably am late on the info. That's what happens when I quit racing on the streets 6 years ago. I'm getting old. cheers

[rubjonny]

also seen this done on the vortex, but only on the early type front mount.  trouble with the late mounts is its not so easy to get the stuff in!  The rear mount I guess it would be doable but its a lot of work to remove it for potential fail