mark 1 abf

[golfnutz]

hi got a 88 cabby  and fancy putting a abf i got sitting into it

had anyone done this and could help me out with what i need to do it
got a mark 2 16v gearbox here heard thats a better option
basicly stripped ma old abf 2 so most parts available to me
what clutch will i need
how will the wiring marry up
what problems will i incurr with the exhaust
and i better  using  webber carbs or any other suggestions

can anyone thing of any problems i hay have  or maybe just general advise on  conversion

thanks
kev

[rubjonny]

the old cab obox will also be ok, but if the cab wasnt a GTI to start with then yeah a MK2 GTI one would be better suited.  You need to m atch the clutch to the gearbox, and fit a 210mm flywheel.  If your cab was at least a 1.8 then it'll have a 210 flywheel.

What is required to ABF it depends what the cabby is right now, carb or injection?

[golfnutz]

presently carb so take it fuel lines tank n pump required  , i got a 16v mark 2 gearbox  take it that will do   will i need different shafts or hubs  basicly anything u can tell me will be appreciated


regards kev

[rubjonny]

if you go with the kr box check the shafts on your cabby, since its a late model it might have the larger 100mm shafts already, whihc would be good news. You will need the fuel tank out of a late cabby or scirocco injection car, along with the in-tank lift pump, main pump and also lines between.  I believe the late cab also has an accumulator or swirl pot of some kind under there as well?  The fuel lines to the front of the car will also be needed.  If you plan to go with the std ABF managment you'll need to cut them down so they sit on the driver side then push fit the ABF rubber lines over the top, I'd shove em on as far as possible then double clip them in place unless you have the ability to crimp a lip in them.
If you go with k-jet injection from a KR, you'll need to keep the end fittings on the fuel lines, so carefull routing of the lines to the driver side or replacement with crazyquiffs 16v conversion lines will be required.

How handy are you with wiring?

[golfnutz]

wirings not ma strong point but know a man who is so  have to roap  him in to it i have the  complete abf loom  ecu etc
so to get this right  since i have now binned the stock engine ill need a 1.8 210 flywheel off say a 8v or a kr    a kr clutch , with it being the tall block  rather than the 9a does the kr  injection system fit  under the bonnet ,i have the shafts  although unaware of size as was not a gti only a clipper carb model   is hard top gti petrol tank the same or will it have to be a late  gti cabby or scirocco  and what exhaust manifold if recommend 

cheers

kev

[rubjonny]

aye 210mm flywheel from some kind of 1.8 model, 8v or 16v, carb or inj.  Clutch you need to match it to the gearbox you use, sachs kits have the same pressure plate either way so it doent matter which you get in terms of strength.  I have an ABF on k-jet in my mk2, it JUST fits under the bonnet so it might be a struggle in a MK1, not tried it thoguh.
Being a late cab 1.8 it is likely to have the 100mm shafts, but measure em to be sure.  You want the main and lifter injection pump setup from a late cab/rocco model, the MK1 GTI tank is different. Its bigger in the late cab/rocco too so dont think the early one will swap on eithr!

As for the manifold you need to either source a 16v scirocco one (goo luck) buy a conversion 4 branch, or make a custom downpipe that will mate to a MK2/3 16v manifold.

[topher]

As for the manifold you need to either source a 16v scirocco one (goo luck)

i have 2 of them   .. that smug smiley is nowhere near smug enough to express my smugness.

[danny_p]

hottuning sell one,  and  it's much better quality than there coilovers

[Lee_dub]

i have 2 of them   .. that smug smiley is nowhere near smug enough to express my smugness.

 How much are they worth then mate 

[rubjonny]

on the one hand, yes they're rare etc, but on the other, they're really old now.  16v manifols have a tendancy to crack as well, so again a goodun is quite rare to find.  But then you can buy a 4 branch off the shelf, so they arn't really worth any more than one of those, if you use your head rather than your heart