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Re: Reccomended pads for an 8v GTi?
« Reply #30 on: 11 January 2009, 23:03 »
he is right though, the 239's are pathetic. if you want to make them better just upgrade them to the 280's, its more cost effective

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Re: Reccomended pads for an 8v GTi?
« Reply #31 on: 11 January 2009, 23:09 »
Awww, my heart is breaking.

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Lose the 239s Ben - it's the only way.
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Re: Reccomended pads for an 8v GTi?
« Reply #32 on: 11 January 2009, 23:11 »
he is right though, the 239's are pathetic. if you want to make them better just upgrade them to the 280's, its more cost effective

...my 239's are peachy...it will still happily lock up on a dry day. I get your point - I'm not being naive ;) Its just that if I could fit the 256/280 without needing to change the hubs, I'd stick them on straight away

Non-option I'm afraid, wheel bearings are new, camber and toe has just been set - no way I'm dicking about with the hubs again.

I've just fitted new wheel bearings on both sides, so I wouldn't bother replacing the hubs. But I am in need of new brakes, and uprating would be a good idea I guess.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  :angry:

239's FTW, I haven't ever felt they are inadequate, big brakes would be fun and safer - but I aint doing it if I have to change the hubs!
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Re: Reccomended pads for an 8v GTi?
« Reply #33 on: 11 January 2009, 23:30 »
Interesting ....  :huh:

saying the hubs need changing is complete rubbish. It's the calipers and carriers that cause the most trouble as they are different lengths and will not allow you to put the new size discs on if you do not change them.

All changing the hubs is going to do is give you exactly the same hub as you had before. Upgrade the master cylinder to a 22mm job, and then sort the calipers and carriers out.  :smiley:

and also, lmfao

Whoa, How did asking for advice on brakes turn into a fight lol

Edit: Bollocks ...

Obviously your cars an mk2 8v with 239mm brakes you WILL need to change the hubs, As carriers on 8v are built onto the hubs unlike 16v and g60 where carrriers are removable.  Done my 1990 8v and fitted corrado g60 front brakes, And master cyl with braided hoses. Very last mk2 8v had 256mm brakes
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Re: Reccomended pads for an 8v GTi?
« Reply #34 on: 11 January 2009, 23:34 »
Stick with what you've got chap. The car is 20 years old and has not been trashed due to inadequate brakes...yet! Just don't out drive yourself. If you plan on adding power to your car, and looking at your projects page, there are no plans as yet, then you will need bigger brakes. Get the best pads you can afford and fit them and take or leave the advice given here. Your car was born with 239mm and an 8v 1.8. If the engine spec is the same...................... :smiley:


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Re: Reccomended pads for an 8v GTi?
« Reply #35 on: 11 January 2009, 23:49 »
Some great info here. Your probably right, I ain't changing the hubs just yet - otherwise I would have wasted my money on my shiny new bearings.

Out of interest for the 280/256, is the bottom ball joint the same?

New set of drilled and vented disks, new Pagid Fast Road pads and a 22mm master cylinder are my best bet. Now, can I pinch a 22mm master cylinder from a scrappy, or should I buy new - and if so which one GSF/Euro/Dealers?
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Re: Reccomended pads for an 8v GTi?
« Reply #36 on: 12 January 2009, 09:27 »

Out of interest for the 280/256, is the bottom ball joint the same?

Tis bigger on the 16v/g60, well just 88 onwards basically (17mm pre and 19mm post iirc)

Now, can I pinch a 22mm master cylinder from a scrappy, or should I buy new - and if so which one GSF/Euro/Dealers?

There's a guy always selling them brand new on ebay, normally go for around £20 or so, plus they come with the blanks needed.

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Re: Reccomended pads for an 8v GTi?
« Reply #37 on: 12 January 2009, 11:36 »
chould try ebc yellows with the 239's if they make them

issue i found with 239 was i was allways cooking them, changing pads after 3 months and cracking disks, put 280's on  and got much better pad life, those brakes got taken off my old car and are on the current one and the pads are still good :) probs 18 months of abuse later ( tho they did get a long holloday inbetween
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Re: Reccomended pads for an 8v GTi?
« Reply #38 on: 12 January 2009, 20:31 »
Weeeeell, I fitted the Pagid Fast Road pads and Brembo vented and grooved discs today and then drove 200 miles on the motorway. So I haven't bed them in properly yet. I'm not really expecting super uprated breaking, just want to be safe ;)

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Re: Reccomended pads for an 8v GTi?
« Reply #39 on: 12 January 2009, 20:56 »
well i still got my 280MM for my 8V and new braided lines

do i REALLY need a 22mm master cylinder ???