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Offline ChrisCrashTM

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fitting a 16v gti in a mk2
« on: 09 January 2009, 20:47 »
Hi, I'm a newbie to this forum and seek help.

I have been given a mk2 golf and it has been garaged waiting to be stripped of just about everything and I thought the best place to start would be the engine.

It's an F reg with 110000 miles on a 1.3 I beleive and I want a GTI or a VR6 engine fitted.

Can anyone tell me the ups and downs of fitting a VR6? As far as I know a GTI would be much simpler but I don't know wether to take the plunge and try my luck with a VR6. I think the engine I do eventually get will be rebuilt before fitting, and can anyone tell me where I stand with winding the clocks back to 0 for when its finished? I plan on pretty much every part of the car being uprated, engine first (welding in new mounts and all that jazz before its painted) then brakes, suspension, wheels and tyres, interior and ice..
Any advice with regards to what should be done when?


And can someone tell me the power on both engines?

thanks  :smiley:

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Re: fitting a 16v gti in a mk2
« Reply #1 on: 09 January 2009, 21:06 »
Hi, I'm a newbie to this forum and seek help.

I have been given a mk2 golf and it has been garaged waiting to be stripped of just about everything and I thought the best place to start would be the engine.

It's an F reg with 110000 miles on a 1.3 I beleive and I want a GTI or a VR6 engine fitted.

Can anyone tell me the ups and downs of fitting a VR6? As far as I know a GTI would be much simpler but I don't know wether to take the plunge and try my luck with a VR6. I think the engine I do eventually get will be rebuilt before fitting, and can anyone tell me where I stand with winding the clocks back to 0 for when its finished? I plan on pretty much every part of the car being uprated, engine first (welding in new mounts and all that jazz before its painted) then brakes, suspension, wheels and tyres, interior and ice..
Any advice with regards to what should be done when?


And can someone tell me the power on both engines?

thanks  :smiley:

Hello and welcome to the forum.

If you use the search function at the top of the page as has already been suggested, albeit rather directly as usual from the forum clown, you will find a wealth of info on this subject. The VR6 lump produces about 170bhp, where as the 16v 1.8 unit produces 139bhp. Or the 2.0 16v unit produces 150 bhp.
If I were you, I would go for a 2.0 transplant. If you want the 1.8 16v, then I suggest you buy a 16v GTI.


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Re: fitting a 16v gti in a mk2
« Reply #2 on: 09 January 2009, 21:18 »
Hi, I'm a newbie to this forum and seek help.

I have been given a mk2 golf and it has been garaged waiting to be stripped of just about everything and I thought the best place to start would be the engine.

It's an F reg with 110000 miles on a 1.3 I beleive and I want a GTI or a VR6 engine fitted.

Can anyone tell me the ups and downs of fitting a VR6? As far as I know a GTI would be much simpler but I don't know wether to take the plunge and try my luck with a VR6. I think the engine I do eventually get will be rebuilt before fitting, and can anyone tell me where I stand with winding the clocks back to 0 for when its finished? I plan on pretty much every part of the car being uprated, engine first (welding in new mounts and all that jazz before its painted) then brakes, suspension, wheels and tyres, interior and ice..
Any advice with regards to what should be done when?


And can someone tell me the power on both engines?

thanksĀ  :smiley:

Hello and welcome to the forum.

If you use the search function at the top of the page as has already been suggested, albeit rather directly as usual from the forum clown, you will find a wealth of info on this subject. The VR6 lump produces about 170bhp, where as the 16v 1.8 unit produces 139bhp. Or the 2.0 16v unit produces 150 bhp.
If I were you, I would go for a 2.0 transplant. If you want the 1.8 16v, then I suggest you buy a 16v GTI.

danny p's 2.0 16v produces more than 150 and is standard.

i don't see why i should waste time constructing well written sentences and points when the op can't be bothered to search.

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Re: fitting a 16v gti in a mk2
« Reply #3 on: 09 January 2009, 21:25 »

i don't see why i should waste time constructing well written sentences and points when the op can't be bothered to search.

do you not remember being new to the forum !!!!

he is just asking and people are just replying , you had your say now unless you have anything of use to say SHUT UP

P.S start with a GTi it is easier , post 90 spec (i think )if you want a VR6 conversion cos the wiring is differant

but searchy search  :smug: :smug:

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Re: fitting a 16v gti in a mk2
« Reply #4 on: 09 January 2009, 21:28 »
Can't be bothered to search?

Only asked for advice. Like i said, new to the forum.

If i wanted a GTI I would buy one, fact is I want to build one.

I apologise for wasting your precious few minutes.

Thanks for the last 2 comment's.

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Re: fitting a 16v gti in a mk2
« Reply #5 on: 09 January 2009, 21:33 »
Can't be bothered to search?

Only asked for advice. Like i said, new to the forum.

If i wanted a GTI I would buy one, fact is I want to build one.

I apologise for wasting your precious few minutes.

Thanks for the last 2 comment's.

You can introduce yourself here. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?board=29.0

We also have a projects section which I am sure you have seen. Look forward to seeing your project on there, unless you have been put off from this site already.


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Re: fitting a 16v gti in a mk2
« Reply #6 on: 10 January 2009, 10:44 »
just ignore some of the ignorant people on here, if you plan on upgrading everything then you might as well do up your one then instead of getting a gti and upgrading bits on that, the only tricky bit will be the engine change but if you get a donor car from a scrappy it should be fine.
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Re: fitting a 16v gti in a mk2
« Reply #7 on: 10 January 2009, 11:05 »
Yeah, thats what I thought I would do to start with. I have a couple of places to store cars so it shouldn't be a problem either.

will a 2.0 16v fit on the same mounts as a 1.3? or are they different? and what gearbox should I use? I know some people just leave the old gearbox in.. but I dont know about a 1.3.


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Re: fitting a 16v gti in a mk2
« Reply #8 on: 10 January 2009, 14:41 »
If you want to look more into the vr6 conversion, take a look at mk2vr6.com.  There site has been down for a few weeks but should be running again any day now.  There is more than enough info on there regarding the conversion.   As for the choice of engine it depends what you want out of the car etc,, Ben

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Re: fitting a 16v gti in a mk2
« Reply #9 on: 10 January 2009, 20:45 »
If you want to look more into the vr6 conversion, take a look at mk2vr6.com.  There site has been down for a few weeks but should be running again any day now.  There is more than enough info on there regarding the conversion.   As for the choice of engine it depends what you want out of the car etc,, Ben

Cheers, il have a look.

To be honest i'm not going to go racing in it, it will be my daily use car but I want to make a show car out of it and I guess its nice to have a bit of power every so often.