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Offline john905

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golf smoking
« on: 02 January 2009, 18:52 »
hello got an 8v golf gti has anyone experiened smoking on idle, its fine when driving didnt no if it was just because its bloody freezing outside ? cheers john

Offline danny_p

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Re: golf smoking
« Reply #1 on: 02 January 2009, 19:45 »
valve stem seals are the usual culprit
all the VW's have gone bar 1.

Offline Conker

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Re: golf smoking
« Reply #2 on: 02 January 2009, 20:25 »
In this cold weather it can take ages for the condensation to clear.

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Re: golf smoking
« Reply #3 on: 03 January 2009, 01:08 »
What colour?

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White smoke: White smoke is caused by water and or antifreeze entering the cylinder, and the engine trying to burn it with the fuel. The white smoke is steam. There are special gaskets (head gaskets are the primary gaskets) that keep the antifreeze from entering the cylinder area. The cylinder is where the fuel and air mixture are being compressed and burned. Any amount of antifreeze that enters this area will produce a white steam that will be present at the tailpipe area.

If white smoke is present, check to see if the proper amount of antifreeze is inside the radiator and the overflow bottle. Also check to see if antifreeze has contaminated the engine oil. You can look at the engine oil dipstick, or look at the under side of the engine oil filler cap. If the oil is contaminated with antifreeze, it will have the appearance of a chocolate milkshake. Do not start the engine if the oil is contaminated with antifreeze, as serious internal engine damage can result.

How did antifreeze get in the oil or cylinder in the first place? The engine probably overheated and a head gasket failed due to excessive heat, thus allowing antifreeze to enter the cylinder (Where it is not meant to be).

Blue Smoke: Blue smoke is caused by engine oil entering the cylinder area and being burned along with the fuel air mixture. As with the white smoke, just a small drop of oil leaking into the cylinder can produce blue smoke out the tailpipe. Blue smoke is more likely in older or higher mileage vehicles than newer cars with fewer miles.

How did the engine oil get inside the cylinder in the first place? The car has many seals, gaskets, and O-rings that are designed to keep the engine oil from entering the cylinder, and one of them has failed. If too much oil leaks into the cylinder and fouls the spark plug, it will cause a misfire (engine miss) in that cylinder, and the spark plug will have to be replaced or cleaned of the oil. Using thicker weight engine oil or an oil additive designed to reduce oil leaks might help reduce the amount of oil leaking into the cylinder.

Black Smoke: Black smoke is caused by excess fuel that has entered the cylinder area and cannot be burned completely. Another term for excess fuel is "running rich." Poor fuel mileage is also a common complaint when black smoke comes out of the tailpipe. Black smoke out the tailpipe is the least cause for alarm. Excess fuel will usually effect engine performance, reduce fuel economy, and produce a fuel odor.

How did the fuel get into the cylinder in the first place? Some of the causes of excess fuel are a carburetor that is out of adjustment, a faulty fuel pump, a leaky fuel injector, or a faulty engine computer or computer sensor. If black smoke is present, check the engine oil as in the white smoke example to make sure excess fuel has not contaminated it. Do not start the engine if a heavy, raw fuel smell can be detected in the engine oil. Call your mechanic and advise him of what you have found.

I hope this helps you determine what could be causing your engine smoke, and the possible reasons behind the smoke.

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Re: golf smoking
« Reply #4 on: 03 January 2009, 18:42 »
cheers for the replys, mine looks like white smoke will give it a long run tomorrow in the hope that it is condensation

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Re: golf smoking
« Reply #5 on: 03 January 2009, 20:38 »
cheers for the replys, mine looks like white smoke will give it a long run tomorrow in the hope that it is condensation

Before you start the engine, mark a line on your expansion tank at the current water line and then you will be able to more accurately see water consumption over the next few days.