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Offline Diamond Hell

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Re: 1.8 8v GTI Engine into 1.6 Driver
« Reply #20 on: 25 October 2008, 19:05 »
It's currently a carbed car.  This means you've got a lot to do to get it to injection. 

I staved off going to injection on my Syncro for some time due to the complexity of the upgrade.  What carb does Dec have at the moment?  Weber or Pierburg?

If it's a Weber 32/34DTML you need to find out why it's not running well.  Is it worn?  Are the jets correct? Do you have proper air-feed equipment on it, not some donkey pan filter?

Unless the engine is shagged, before you dive in and tear the engine out, why not sort the handling and braking first?

This means a GTI rear beam, which has the rear anti roll bar stapled on it, as well as the discs.

If you're going to rear discs then you need to add in the brake compensator unit too, so you're into a lot of hard-line replacement, too.

As someone's already stated, upgrading the fronts will give you far more improvement anyway.  A modest upgrade to 256mm and a 22mm master cylinder will see you right for now.

I only suggested that someone was an idiot to run carbs when they were proposing replacing their injection system with carbs.  Now that would be dumb.  K-Jet's ripe for lampooning as various people fete it and it's chronically out-moded these days.

If I was you and I wanted to upgrade your car I'd pick up a 2.0 block, crossflow 8V head, get it lightly breathed upon and tweaked to fit, buy a Megasquirt system, a stub manifold and some bike throttlebodies and make yourself something properly zingy yet simple.

By the sounds of it the OP's already made the sensible decision - buy a GTI to replace his existing car.  Provided the engine runs reasonably well then there should be a 17 year old keen to buy your car as a first step on the ladder.  Plenty of GTIs out there to choose from.
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Re: 1.8 8v GTI Engine into 1.6 Driver
« Reply #21 on: 25 October 2008, 19:14 »
Thanks DH. Only problem it has with running is when its really cold i have to wait for it to warm up before going anywhere (unlike injection cars).

I currently have a weber on it with the standard airbox + crappy pannel filter. Can you recommend an upgrade?

As I refuse to pay what theyre asking for insurance on a GTI this year, im going to save up a bit and buy a clean example in the summer and swap my insurance over. This way I won't have to worry about messing anything up on my Driver and ending up car-less.

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Dec

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Re: 1.8 8v GTI Engine into 1.6 Driver
« Reply #22 on: 25 October 2008, 19:38 »
Does your Weber have a manual choke?

Is it connected?

Do you have the warm air feed from the exhaust manifold still installed?

If it is then maybe you should get the carb set up on a rolling road (including the idle jets), get this done by an experienced carb-tuning operator and your car should be happy hot or cold. 

Make sure your car is set up properly and get out there and learn to drive it properly on some B-roads.  You should be capable of having plenty of fun with it as it is right now.
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Re: 1.8 8v GTI Engine into 1.6 Driver
« Reply #23 on: 25 October 2008, 19:39 »
why dont you put up with the power till you can afford a 16v next summer. ( if you can afford to insure an 8v a 16v is not much more) and spend all your time and money on the chassis till then which can all be swapped over, theres plenty to do and it will make you quicker than an engine swap overall. and just do the simple things like karekhartum is doing to get a few more horses if you get bored.

even dh's crossflow 2.0l 8v suggestion wont be as quick as a bog standard 16v, you will just be wasting your time tbh

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Re: 1.8 8v GTI Engine into 1.6 Driver
« Reply #24 on: 25 October 2008, 20:11 »

I currently have a weber on it with the standard airbox + crappy pannel filter. Can you recommend an upgrade?

the crappy littel K&N  that sits in the factory airbox is about the best option,    the filters that cause problems are the ones that bolt direcctly on top of the carb.     
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Re: 1.8 8v GTI Engine into 1.6 Driver
« Reply #25 on: 26 October 2008, 00:19 »
Wise choice in buying the real thing.

Trying to upgrade a Driver is a waste of time. There is a lot more to the GTI than just engine.

As for the comment about the rear discs vs drums - you having a laugh? Rear discs make a big difference to braking. They still might only do 30% of the braking, but its 30% more than drums.

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Re: 1.8 8v GTI Engine into 1.6 Driver
« Reply #26 on: 26 October 2008, 08:00 »
if its your first car and you wont have a gti for 3 years its not a waste of time! but as the op is buying one next year i think it would be.

so you fitted lightweight tappets yet tinman?  :grin:
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Re: 1.8 8v GTI Engine into 1.6 Driver
« Reply #27 on: 26 October 2008, 14:31 »
so you fitted lightweight tappets yet tinman?  :grin:

like i would ever? lol. i bought a faster car instead ;)