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Offline fredgroves

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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #20 on: 07 February 2018, 09:17 »
If you were to retrofit even the OEM parts your insurance company would charge you a fortune too, because they are gits.

It seems with pretty much anything on a Mk7.x golf, spec it up front or suffer. I guess that's modern cars for you. I'd doubt if any other OEM's vehicles are any different these days.

I'd love to fit a really top notch brake set and I have thought about doing it to many cars we've owned over the years, but the cost of doing it and the extra insurance just makes it a crazy idea.
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #21 on: 07 February 2018, 09:32 »
"If you had ordered the PP & come from an Astra VXR with Brembos & a Drexlar diff you might have been disappointed ...

The PP brakes are the statdard "R" ones which do the job, but are cast iron sliding fist single piston & would weigh twice the ammount of those Brembos...which would be nice & light weight & at least 4 pots

& the PP VAQ is an Electro-hydraulic Front Diff Lock & not a mechanical LSD like the Drexlar....two completly different animals trying to achive the same result, but with different reactions & feel if compared side by side in the same situation...
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The brembo brakes were great, as was the lsd. The Astra was such a heavy car though that the golf feels much more nimble in comarison. A nice set of ap brakes or something similar would be fantastic on it. Do you know if wavetrac or quaiffe do an lsd retrofit?
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #22 on: 07 February 2018, 09:53 »
Google suggests either Quaiffe or Wavetrac are possible with the latter being superior...

£2500 supplied and fitted for the Wavetrac maybe?
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #23 on: 07 February 2018, 09:56 »

The brembo brakes were great, as was the lsd. The Astra was such a heavy car though that the golf feels much more nimble in comarison. A nice set of ap brakes or something similar would be fantastic on it. Do you know if wavetrac or quaiffe do an lsd retrofit?
Wavetrak do a MK7 LSD...the MK7 gearbox is the same (02Q) as the MK6 & previous, just with minor revisions

http://www.wavetrac.net/application.htm

& they do DSG versions..better than the quaife for pre-load....

Brakes...

https://www.vagbremtechnic.com/vw/golf-mk7-5g-2014-onwards/

take your pick but a good set up would J hooks.& not too big a disc to hinder alloys..

https://www.vagbremtechnic.com/front-brake-kit-4-piston-brembo-calipers-options-for-discs-bk0012/


 

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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #24 on: 07 February 2018, 10:13 »
If you went with those upgraded fronts, would you need to do anything to the rears or are they over braked already?

Would setting up the balance be hard?
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #25 on: 07 February 2018, 10:50 »

The brembo brakes were great, as was the lsd. The Astra was such a heavy car though that the golf feels much more nimble in comarison. A nice set of ap brakes or something similar would be fantastic on it. Do you know if wavetrac or quaiffe do an lsd retrofit?
Wavetrak do a MK7 LSD...the MK7 gearbox is the same (02Q) as the MK6 & previous, just with minor revisions

http://www.wavetrac.net/application.htm

& they do DSG versions..better than the quaife for pre-load....

Brakes...

https://www.vagbremtechnic.com/vw/golf-mk7-5g-2014-onwards/

take your pick but a good set up would J hooks.& not too big a disc to hinder alloys..

https://www.vagbremtechnic.com/front-brake-kit-4-piston-brembo-calipers-options-for-discs-bk0012/

Thank you :) I have never seen the j hooked pattern on discs before. Seems like a good upgrade and one I would definitely consider :)
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #26 on: 07 February 2018, 12:08 »
If you went with those upgraded fronts, would you need to do anything to the rears or are they over braked already?

Would setting up the balance be hard?

leave the rears as OTT...

So long as the pistons total capacity is the same as the OEM then the balance/pressure is not affected that much....

The "R" & therefore the PP & CSS are all the same callipers....& total capacity is more then the GTI which uses the same callipers as the lower models.

So there are is a different master cylinders/servo...for the R/PP/CSS....

But so long as you stay within the OEM size fro your car then a 4 pot with correct sized pistons will be fine
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