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Offline Ivor Mk4 Turbo

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Re: What petrol do you fill the GTI tank with?
« Reply #30 on: 10 July 2014, 21:09 »
I use 95, I put 99 in every now and again as a treat and I can't feel any difference.  I can only think it's psychosomatic.

Petrol's expensive enough these days as it is    :sad: it was 38p when I started driving!

Same here. I've tried BP normal, BP Ultimate, Shell normal and Shell V-Power Nitro Plus. Honestly I can't notice a difference in performance or economy so I just use normal unleaded now.


Just the one tank won't make any difference.  After about 4 full tanks in a row, you should notice a difference in performance & economy.  If you do this & go back to 95, I expect you would notice the difference, then...........  I know I did. ;)
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Re: What petrol do you fill the GTI tank with?
« Reply #31 on: 10 July 2014, 21:26 »
I have run my mk7 on vpower/momentum since the day I collected it. I don't do many miles so happy to pay the extra £1 or so per tank doesn't bother me. Having seen a couple of tests including the fifth gear one I think its worth the small amount more.

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Re: What petrol do you fill the GTI tank with?
« Reply #32 on: 10 July 2014, 21:46 »
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Re: What petrol do you fill the GTI tank with?
« Reply #33 on: 11 July 2014, 11:06 »
Different engines in different cars may be able to adjust the ECU to take advantage of higher Ron fuels but if VW say the MK7 GTi is optimised for 95 then that implies that the ECU does not adapt to higher Ron fuels.

Historically, at least this is not the case. ECU would adjust to protect the engine from lower grade fuels than it was optimised for, there was more than one way this was achieved but typically one or more knock sensors were fitted and if/when knock (detonation) was detected the timing was progressively retarded until it stopped. After a time the ignition was advanced either to the "optimum" or until knock was detected again.

So, in both my Integra Type-Rs, my S2000, my 911 etc. which were optimised for 98 it made an appreciable difference to performance and economy if you have to fill up with a lower grade, you lose, I would estimate close to 10% as the timing adjustments are fairly crude and non-optimal. Modern ECUs may well be better at this but I am not aware that they adjust upwards for better fuel...

So, there really is not benefit to running V-Power in a car optimised for normal from a power perspective, long or short term. The additional cost 5p per litre (give or take)... if you do say 20K miles per year, you'll use over 2000 litres to do that and the additional cost will be over £100 for no benefit, except a mis-placed peace of mind... I suppose it is not too bad but I'd rather have the money...
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Re: What petrol do you fill the GTI tank with?
« Reply #34 on: 13 July 2014, 18:41 »
I've only ever put standard Shell in mine. And that is all it will ever have, no problems so far  :smiley:

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Re: What petrol do you fill the GTI tank with?
« Reply #35 on: 15 August 2014, 23:38 »
After filling up with 102 octane several times in Germany there is no doubt in my mind it makes a difference.

The car was full, heavy, with high tyre pressure but the difference was quite noticeable.


The  VW manual mentions it will give no benefit. I think VW have got this wrong.

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Re: What petrol do you fill the GTI tank with?
« Reply #36 on: 16 August 2014, 09:20 »
If I had an R it would get RON97-99, if I had a GTI then I would use RON95 - these are VWs recommendations. If The GTI got a 10PS boost with 98 then they'd be encouraging you to use it (with the back-up of using RON95 at a minimum).

I suspect you'd notice the loss of performance of an R using 95 a hell of a lot more than you'd (objectively) notice the gains (whether it be mpg or power gains) in using 98 in a GTI.
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Re: What petrol do you fill the GTI tank with?
« Reply #37 on: 16 August 2014, 09:31 »
After filling up with 102 octane several times in Germany there is no doubt in my mind it makes a difference.

The car was full, heavy, with high tyre pressure but the difference was quite noticeable.


The  VW manual mentions it will give no benefit. I think VW have got this wrong.

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If you're happy putting the expensive stuff in then that's up to you but as has been said it doesn't make any difference what so ever other than the placebo effect.
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Re: What petrol do you fill the GTI tank with?
« Reply #38 on: 16 August 2014, 10:24 »
95 for me too, I did use Tesco 99 in my old mk6 after it developed a very intermittent problem where it would hesitate or jolt at about 4000 revs on hard acceleration but it didn't seem to make any difference and the fault vanished after time,unless you use your car on a track or really thrash it I would stick to 95 as any minor gains would be hardly noticeable . :smiley:
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