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Offline Hurdy

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Re: Stage 2 remap and turbo back Milltek
« Reply #30 on: 10 November 2013, 20:25 »
I have a stage 3 Golf R with an L0400 turbo upgrade, water methanol injection and manual boost controller ( which means I can run higher boost than any N75 controlled ED35 can) and I am running 361bhp at JKM. Take it down there and I guarantee that "stage 2" ED35 will not even do 350bhp.

Mine made over 390bhp BEFORE going for a hybrid turbo at Awesome GTI. Believe you me it is all about the dyno lottery. :wink:

Stage 1 power can vary quite a lot depending on bolt-ons, as can stage 2, but at stage 2+ the playing field tends to level out in terms of power as the cars all tend to have "all the toys" bolted to them.

The fact that I can get a result of 392bhp and 462lbft at a lower state of tune on one dyno and then get a 361bhp and 400lbft on another dyno after adding a stronger turbo and freer flowing exhaust at a higher boost level basically shows that you take your cars stated output with a very large pinch of salt!

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Re: Stage 2 remap and turbo back Milltek
« Reply #31 on: 10 November 2013, 23:58 »
Personally I couldn't care if mine has 100bhp or a 1000bhp. It's all about how it drives on the road for me. The power from the car is immense and the delivery superb, as has every car they have ever done for me. The Golf R I drove, and the Scirocco R I had for five days (while my bumper was repaired), both seemed positively pedestrian by comparison to my ED35.

I have tried Brodie Britain Racing years ago (1989/90), Superchips, REVO, APS, Van Aarken, Paramount Performance, ChippedUK, DMS Automative, APR and AMD. I can honestly say that all roads lead to AMD from my experiences. I'm sure we've all had bad experiences of one kind or another. I did with BBR and ChippedUK. But so far AMD have never let me down and when I had the mechatronics unit replaced on the R36 (thankfully under warranty) I took the car back to AMD to have the DSG remap redone and they spent nearly three hours on my car for nothing. Including solving a problem the dealer could not.

Nothing has ever been too much trouble for AMD, and on the two occasions the my A4 and R36 had problems AMD were the ones to solve it. Some of the guys that worked out of Bicester when AMD were there have gone on to run their own companies very successfully. I'm not sure what the VAG scene says but I can't fault them. I know lots (not just VW) who have used them and never heard a complaint.

I'm sure this is a debate for some but at the discounted price I paid for the remap and exhaust, it is the best money I have spent in a long time......
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Offline wigit

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Re: Stage 2 remap and turbo back Milltek
« Reply #32 on: 11 November 2013, 17:05 »
sorry platinum70 i know the AMD story well as APS work on my cars and Shaun

my comments were not a criticism of their mapping or service it is just when people start quoting dyno figures they will get scrutinised when substantially higher than the norm given the limits of hardware, whilst CDL engines mapper slightly better we are taking about 1-2% in terms of gain especially when you know the amount of development time the two main players have put into this maps over the last 18 months

i never really get involved in the figures debate these days, my car has been dyno'd a few times by Revo and i am aware of what it achieved and i have never got a chance to validate

the boys must be doing a stonking job though as it produces more power than mine on Stage 2 with a calibration engineer revising the mapping between runs

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Re: Stage 2 remap and turbo back Milltek
« Reply #33 on: 11 November 2013, 17:23 »
sorry platinum70 i know the AMD story well as APS work on my cars and Shaun

my comments were not a criticism of their mapping or service it is just when people start quoting dyno figures they will get scrutinised when substantially higher than the norm given the limits of hardware, whilst CDL engines mapper slightly better we are taking about 1-2% in terms of gain especially when you know the amount of development time the two main players have put into this maps over the last 18 months

i never really get involved in the figures debate these days, my car has been dyno'd a few times by Revo and i am aware of what it achieved and i have never got a chance to validate

the boys must be doing a stonking job though as it produces more power than mine on Stage 2 with a calibration engineer revising the mapping between runs

a few of remember the infamous Superchips Rolling Road day of 2009

Wigit - I didn't see your comments as negative at all and we are all entitled to have our say. That is what open forums are for. I welcome any feedback/comments as it helps.

I've known these guys a long time and they really go 'the extra mile' in terms of service. I would not use anyone else for such services, although Ed at APS is a great chap. I just stick with AMD due to the level of service and my personal experiences. Plus some very good prices for being 'loyal'.

Like you I am not into figures and not even sure why I detailed them in the post. For info I guess. As I said I can only gauge it with the car. I've had some quick cars in my time but this ED35 is unreal, as friends and other drivers could well confirm. It is so much fun to drive and the only car I've owned that the excitement of the power/performance is yet to wear off.

But I know what I'm like and the quest for 'more performance' may get the better of me........
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Re: Stage 2 remap and turbo back Milltek
« Reply #34 on: 11 November 2013, 17:29 »
my 35 is on a stock map at the moment and once you've had you notice when you have not, the car is actually grey fun stock as you need to by at 6k to get the best out of it but don't want it all the time

i've had my wife's Pirelli today which is Stage 1 and it was hello mid range where have you been i've missed you :grin:

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Re: Stage 2 remap and turbo back Milltek
« Reply #35 on: 11 November 2013, 18:38 »
When I test drove the car as standard I was really impressed with it. Initially I wasn't going to do it for a while but like I said earlier in this thread it is the best money I have ever spent.

I had the R32 before the R36 but sold it after just over a year. Found it small and never really enjoyed it. Not sure if the Mk6 is bigger but it just seems a more 'grown up' car. I love the look of it, the wheels, the styling and especially how it drives. Personally I prefer the DSG as long as it has been remapped. I want to change gear when I'm ready not when the car wants to....
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