Author Topic: VeeDub vs FourRings....  (Read 14682 times)

Offline Teutonic_Tamer

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Re: VeeDub vs FourRings....
« Reply #90 on: 11 September 2008, 10:22 »
Some fair points there TT.... But the idea of the TG track would be to stay on the racing line.. as you would in any car.

Oh, I fully agree.  However, on the TG track, if you do get it wrong, you merely go from a car to a lawn mower.  :tongue:  Or if you are at Snetterton, when you go off at the end of the start-finsh straight, you end up prematurely harvesting brussels sprouts.  Maybe thats where the DSG gets its "farts" from!  :laugh:  However, on a normal road, losing control can have very nasty outcomes.  :embarassed:

But you can only judge a car by what you put in front of it. IMO your much more likely to understeer into a hedge in a FWD than you are a Hadlex operated AWD... but if your not an experienced driver then you could probably do it in anything as opposed to the cars we are talking about.

Sort of agree, sort of don't.  Yes, any car can understeer, and this includes both front wheel drive, and rear wheel drive cars (even BMWs) - but understeer is usually initiated by some bad or incorrect driving.  Indeed, I managed to get my RS to understeer when I was driving very tired, but "pressing on", and a tight bend caught me out (no damage done - well none to the car, just the boxer shorts  :grin:).  However, once understeer has started, then other factors come in to play.  The weight of the engine is one such factor, and the VR6 lump in the R32 is quite a bit heavier than the GTI 4-pot.  Give a GTI or Ed30, and an R32 to "mr average", and the R32 is well known to understeer more easily (due to the engine weight), and (again, mr average driving), the R32 understeer will be much harder to control - compared to a GTI or Ed30.

I absolutely agree with you, though - if you are a "talented" ("experienced" is probably the wrong word, but I know what you are saying) driver, who knows how to fully use the Haldex potential, then you can "dial out" understeer on the R32.  :smiley:

Either way.. i find that if your rash with the haldex it will kick out. Know what your doing and planned out before you even get to a corner and it will behave exactly how you want it to and fly out if a corner like its on rails.

Exactly.  :smiley:
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Re: VeeDub vs FourRings....
« Reply #91 on: 11 September 2008, 10:26 »
I think the A5 is an awful design, have you seen the size of the wing mirrors, they're huuuuuge!

I will second that! The a5 does absolutely nothing for me... like I am sure I have said on a previous post, if you were to take a4 squash it and pull it a little, you would end up with a5. Designers were obviously on holiday!

But the A5, like all "coupes" are aimed at a specific market - and the fundamental "essence" of a coupe is all about styling.  And just like Heinz fart pellets baked beans or HP baked beans - we all have different tastes and likes.  I actually don't mind the A5, but would never buy one, nor any coupe, becuase for a number of reasons, coupes do nowt for me.
Sean - Independent Automotive Engineering Technician (ret'd)
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