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Title: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: cw3514 on 18 November 2008, 12:10
Been thinking about getting something a bit quicker than my 8v mk3, as it slow as hell! Limited budget, so was thinking of either getting a mk2 valver or a mk3 vr6. Then I realised seat did a 2.0 16v abf Ibiza. Has anybody ever had one of these/been in one? Obviously it'll be quicker than a mk3 abf cos its lighter, but what else should I know about them?
Seen decent ones going around with c 70k on the clock under a grand - sounds like a bargain. What's the build quality like?

Thanks
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: Diamond Hell on 18 November 2008, 12:12
It's a Golf2 chassis with an ABF in the front.

At the age of car you're looking at it doesn't really matter what the build quality's like - it's more about what rust does it have on it now?

Go for it - top bargain and knocks the Golf3 into a cocked hat any day of the week.
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: ToddyGTi on 18 November 2008, 12:19
Been thinking about getting something a bit quicker than my 8v mk3, as it slow as hell! Limited budget, so was thinking of either getting a mk2 valver or a mk3 vr6. Then I realised seat did a 2.0 16v abf Ibiza. Has anybody ever had one of these/been in one? Obviously it'll be quicker than a mk3 abf cos its lighter, but what else should I know about them?
Seen decent ones going around with c 70k on the clock under a grand - sounds like a bargain. What's the build quality like?

Thanks

They are bloody excellent motors mate. Just check the usual places for rust (rear arches and sills) and accident damage. Go like the clappers though, and although it is marginally quicker than a MK3 with the ABF it is also quite a lot slower than a MK2 that has one  :wink:
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: cw3514 on 18 November 2008, 12:26
Been thinking about getting something a bit quicker than my 8v mk3, as it slow as hell! Limited budget, so was thinking of either getting a mk2 valver or a mk3 vr6. Then I realised seat did a 2.0 16v abf Ibiza. Has anybody ever had one of these/been in one? Obviously it'll be quicker than a mk3 abf cos its lighter, but what else should I know about them?
Seen decent ones going around with c 70k on the clock under a grand - sounds like a bargain. What's the build quality like?

Thanks

They are bloody excellent motors mate. Just check the usual places for rust (rear arches and sills) and accident damage. Go like the clappers though, and although it is marginally quicker than a MK3 with the ABF it is also quite a lot slower than a MK2 that has one  :wink:

thought so! Trouble finding a decent mk2 with an abf in it for a low price tho!

parkers reckons 0-60 in 7.6 secs - as opposed to 8.0 for golf mk3 - a fair bit quicker! not much off the VR according to that website
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 November 2008, 13:00
The seat ibiza is actually based on the vw polo, with a slightly longer wheelbase.
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: Diamond Hell on 18 November 2008, 13:24
The business end is G2 architecture, the bit behind the firewall is Polo.
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: monkeyalan on 18 November 2008, 13:38
they have one issue in common with the mk4 polo.
the pedal box can crack and is a pain to fix by all accounts.
other than that , i'd have one , in fact if there were any about when i was looking for a new car i'd have bought one.
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 November 2008, 16:04
The business end is G2 architecture, the bit behind the firewall is Polo.

Can you explain that a bit more?
I've tried one of these cars some years ago, it was a great little motor, but i decided against as the build quality was a bit naff.
The main dealer said it was effectively a rebadged polo, this and other sources on the net have confirmed this.
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: Diamond Hell on 18 November 2008, 17:16
I'll take it back - it's actually on a Golf3 front end (hence don't touch it with a bargepole  :tongue:).  It's the Toledo that's G2.

It's all VAG parts bin anyhow.

I'll have a poke round Beavis's new £200 Ibiza tonight.  There's rather more than just a re-badge to differentiate it to the Polo though.
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 November 2008, 17:20
Interesting stuff, i didn't know they used a golf front end, i thought all the chassis was polo.
I suppose all skoda, seat cars borrow lots of the different bits  :grin:
Why don't you like golf mk3's?
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: Diamond Hell on 18 November 2008, 18:19
Why don't you like golf mk3's?

Hey there's no need to get going on that.

Quote from: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=97550.0
Here's this for starters

I used to think it was just the cars that sucked, but then the owners got going :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 November 2008, 18:42
Mk3's are ok apart from they rust easily  :laugh:
Hey i used to be a mk3 owner, and i'm ok  :tongue:
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: Diamond Hell on 18 November 2008, 18:47
Yes, some people see the light, thankfully.
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 November 2008, 18:54
Yes, some people see the light, thankfully.

Oh dear, you are mean  :grin:
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: ToddyGTi on 19 November 2008, 20:08
The business end is G2 architecture, the bit behind the firewall is Polo.

Can you explain that a bit more?
I've tried one of these cars some years ago, it was a great little motor, but i decided against as the build quality was a bit naff.
The main dealer said it was effectively a rebadged polo, this and other sources on the net have confirmed this.

Its a Polo chassis with a Golf subframe bolted to it. (Polo's never had a full sub-frame like the Golfs)

suspension is all Polo, brakes are Golf, rear beam is Golf too.
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: hobbiniho on 19 November 2008, 22:22
It's all VAG parts bin anyhow.

yeh bit like my caddy van has a polo front end so i could swap a seat ibiza curpa front end onto it it just bolts on, tis kinds cool how a lot of things are interchangable  :cool:
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: danny_p on 24 November 2008, 01:22
ummm  seat garage is getting hungery and wants to eat another now  :smiley:
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: Khare on 24 November 2008, 10:11
Why don't you like golf mk3's?

Hey there's no need to get going on that.

dont even get diamond hell started on golf mk3's. he will eat his keyboard otherwise. :grin:
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: danny_p on 24 November 2008, 21:52
i'm tempted to buy a mk3 vr6 auto just to wind him up
Title: Re: Seat Ibiza valver 2.0
Post by: Diamond Hell on 24 November 2008, 22:30
Didn't you already do that once?

 :tongue: