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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: telboy on 10 November 2008, 18:39
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Guys and girls,....
I have a problem,...my back problem has come back and me doc thinks its to do with the seats in the Golf???
I have an ED30 dsg with all the toys and may have to sell her as I'm currently on 33k miles a year and my back won't put up with the ride for much longer,...I love the car to bits but,.....
Anyways, my Dads mate has a 2007 Volvo S60R for sale, 300 bhp awd with all the kit and he only wants £13k for it (21k miles on the clock). Now I've driven the Volvo before on long trips and always got out feeling totally ok, not so with the Golf.
I can't afford to have both and value my health so have to really seriously start looking around.
What do you guys think and more importantly, what do you think about the Volvo and the price being offered???
I know this is all about Golfs, however I'm between a rock and a hard place, your opinions really matter.
Thanks for any responses.
Telboy
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I would not be getting rid of my MK5 because my doctor THINKS it might be the seats in it. There are plenty of members on here and non of us have had back problems due to the seats in our Golfs. I would get some who really knows what they are doing (I cant remember what a back person is called lol) and get them to take a look, maybe show them how you sit in the car. It might just be you and how you sit in it rather than the seat. Just seem like a drastic action to take on something your doctor says MIGHT be the problem.
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Sympathise with you telboy! :sad: I drive 170 GT 200 miles min daily and have ed 30 for weekends. I am off for MRi and Dexa scan tomorrow to find long standing problems with chronic back pains and sciatica (never could spell!.....looks about right though! :grin:)
My doctor has never mentioned it might be my car seats causing the problem??............my other half did suggest though that the DSG makes me more relaxed when driving!....no left leg to worry about in traffic! :undecided: When the 170 goes will definately consider DSG next time as we love it in the Ed 30. Have had Golf's for last 9 years; perhaps that's why I have bad back??????? :rolleyes: Would be a bit drastic to swap car on doctors say so! :shocked:
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alright matey? can ya not get some different seats fitted, recaros? might be better supportive? :undecided:
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Try reading this and setting up your seat (unless you alresady have!)
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=88688.msg728194;topicseen#msg728194
If not, it maybe easier to buy different seats like cookiemonster suggests :smiley:
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I would not be getting rid of my MK5 because my doctor THINKS it might be the seats in it. There are plenty of members on here and non of us have had back problems due to the seats in our Golfs. I would get some who really knows what they are doing (I cant remember what a back person is called lol) and get them to take a look, maybe show them how you sit in the car. It might just be you and how you sit in it rather than the seat. Just seem like a drastic action to take on something your doctor says MIGHT be the problem.
Trust me, I'm not changing just because the doc says so, it's a bit more invloved than that and has been going on for some time and through the process of elimination we think it's the seats in the Golf,......
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Car seats? Depends on how long you spend sitting in them. If it's for quick journeys, shouldn't be an issue. If you have long daily drives, you need something that will support you appropriately.
The only way to find out what is the exacerbating factor is to MRI your spine with you in your normal postures. This is impossible.
I find sitting in the GTI really comfortable but this weekend, I had to adjust the seats and when I tried adjusting them back, I couldn't get the seat into the right position, so I had a slight backache throughout the journey.
Anything other than lying flat and floating on a cloud will place stress on your spine.
Try test-driving in other cars if possible. The volvo seats might be that bit more comfier but there might be better seats still.
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Recaros!!! If ever I have heard an excuse :grin: :grin:
Might have to try this one myself :nerd:
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That's a tough one. I also have back problems and find the Golf seats ok, but not perfect. I drove a Volvo V50 for 700 miles in one day a few months ago and got out without any aches, so I think they are the best in this respect.
However, I don't really rate the S60. They are fast in a straight line, but the handling is a joke compared to the Golf. I wouldn't want to swap unless it was crippling!
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1 question first...have you ever driven the volvo R before? if so then fair enough but if not I think you should. Also dont go auto/tip cos they are garbage, manual is the best and the g/box can handle some good power. Rica do a remap for the R which takes it from 250 to 310bhp it also uses the same haldex system has the R32 but doesn't feel any where has grippy has the Golf R.
The Volvo R will do approx 26-28mpg and the sound track is near on the R32 v6 with a little bit of scooby thrown in :laugh: You really need to go on the Volvo.org forum and speak to some ppl over there cos the volvo does suffer from some bad niggles i.e instrument cluster problems, wheel bearings, a/c, etc, etc. The only other thing I would say is go for the V70R rather than the S60. Or just keep the golf and get some recaro erganomic(sp) seats or the similar one to the older S3 I think they are the recaro trend?
Sorry about the long post but you will be sadly dissapointed at the newer volvo's stick with your golf.
Darren
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1 question first...have you ever driven the volvo R before? if so then fair enough but if not I think you should. Also dont go auto/tip cos they are garbage, manual is the best and the g/box can handle some good power. Rica do a remap for the R which takes it from 250 to 310bhp it also uses the same haldex system has the R32 but doesn't feel any where has grippy has the Golf R.
The Volvo R will do approx 26-28mpg and the sound track is near on the R32 v6 with a little bit of scooby thrown in :laugh: You really need to go on the Volvo.org forum and speak to some ppl over there cos the volvo does suffer from some bad niggles i.e instrument cluster problems, wheel bearings, a/c, etc, etc. The only other thing I would say is go for the V70R rather than the S60. Or just keep the golf and get some recaro erganomic(sp) seats or the similar one to the older S3 I think they are the recaro trend?
Sorry about the long post but you will be sadly dissapointed at the newer volvo's stick with your golf.
Darren
Darren
Cheers for this although the Volvo S60R is actually a 300 bhp car and tuneable to 450 bhp, remap will take it to around 350. Volvo have revised the haldex system for the 2007 model which this is and also uprated the geartronic to 6 speed and removed the torque limit after the 3rd gear, so now its only down a second on the manual and just as tuneable.
I love my golf to bits and driving home today through the twisty roads just proved how much of an accomplished car it is.
The only issue I have is doing the mileage isn't helping my back,.....but then whatever car I have I might have the same problem.
All I know is that this is the last S60R that has had all the adjusments done to improve on everything as the early ones were crud,...
I'm hoping someone else will just buy the Volvo and that way the decision is made for me!!
Then again, I only have to look out the window at my ed30 and after just 1 second I think, what the F*ck, stick with the Golf you nob!!!
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If you have a long back and broad shoulders the GTI seats are poor. They curl your shoulders forward and can give a stiff shoulder unless perfectly set-up.
Volvo seats are just superb, but the cars are as boring as Audis.
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I would seek further advice to be sure, Volvo is ok but would try and stay with the Golf if you could.
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Im sorry i just saw this thread randomly!!! have just sold an 850 t5, The most comfortable car i have ever owned!! I can also sympathyse wit you a lot!! Years ago i Had a mk5 Xr3i i loiked it but used to get terrible pains in my thighs unless I had the seat perfect!!! My best mate thought it was funny too adjust it all out when I popped out of the car!! I wanted to samsh his face in!!!
Never bought another Ford scince!!
Volvos are well cool!! Understated and fast!
Buy A S60D5 For the week and a mk2 Gti for the weekend!
If my Volvo had been Deisel I would never have sold it!! The T5 Did 16 to 20 MPG!!!!!! Im a care worker... so i cant afford that!!!
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Are we talking about Volvos here?????? :sick: :sick: :sick:
Fords in sveeeedish fancy dress :lipsrsealed:
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Hi
I can't comment on the Volvo's seats as I haven’t driven one but I can tell you that I have a MkV Gti and a Saab 9-5 Aero.
My Wife suffers with a bad back she has a condition called AS.
We went to Scotland on two consecutive years once in my old Mercedes C230 and then in the Saab and in the Merc we had to stop about every hour because it was setting her back off but in the Saab we only really stopped to refuel, it didn’t effect her back at all.
Also this year I drove to Italy in the Golf.
I would say the Golf has comfortable Seat's for the type of car it is but the Saab Is a lot more comfortable but it is also a very different Car big cruiser vs. hot hatch.
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I must say, I do think the Golf is extremely comfortable if the seats fit you....I am a little broader than most and do find the seats can sometimes be a little uncomfortable after a long drive but that is more me than anything.
The GTI seats do have back and lumbar support so why not play with some of those settings. Often it can be your driving position that is leading to your back problems, rather than the seats themselves. Raise the back up perhaps, sit closer/further away from the steering wheel. change the height of you seat. All can affect the ergonomics of your driving position. The steering wheels adjusts too ;-)
I find that after a long drive I slouch into the seat and this is my fault. So my lower back hurts. But recently, I bring the back of the chair slightly forward and change a few other settings until I am feeling supported. Makes a massive difference.
I can often be in the car for 5-6 hours a day and often sitting in traffic, gives me moments where I play with stuff (ooo eer missus)....and find that adjusting my seat to the "optimum" driving position really makes a difference.
If you have tried every setting/position then perhaps changing cars is the right thing to do....but a Volver.... ;-) :shocked:
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Terry, one answer to this............................
Keep the Edition30!!!!!!
The Doctors no nothing reference back problems!!!. Your Gut feeling always knows best :wink:. Like has been said, have a play around with the lower
lumber support.
Your not the size of a artic lorry, your not too big to fit the seats wise. Go see a decent Chiropractor, preferably a Blonde/brunnette, that likes
rubbing massaging oils into your back for £30 a session :wink:. Done by back a world of good when i put mine out a while ago. In my job
as you can imagine working on ladders, my back HAS to be good.
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Sorry Telboy I dont know what I was thinking about...of course the S60R is 300bhp i had my head under the bonnet of an old s70R for some reason :grin: any way yes I had to borrow a v70r not so long ago when my focus st225 whas in for service, the car was my mates and it was the tiptronic model, although it was remapped by BSR.
The car felt special to be in especially with the cluster its not lit from the back so at night when the lights come on the dash cluster is lit by 2-3 leds shining on the dials. looks really good. My daughter kept watching Simpson on the TV/satnav. I would have one tomorrow if it wasn't for the fact the wife doesn't like volvo's :cry:
Darren