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Title: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 10 October 2008, 14:47
 

         The first ring of the bell was at 10:30.  with the anti lift kit.  :drool:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/Detailing%20pics/IMG_0332.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/Detailing%20pics/IMG_0333.jpg)


                                  Then again at half one with these little babies.    :drool:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/Detailing%20pics/IMG_0334.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/Detailing%20pics/IMG_0335.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/Detailing%20pics/IMG_0336.jpg)

                                            and finally the anti lift kit and KW V2's together.

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/Detailing%20pics/IMG_0337.jpg)
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: MAT ed30 on 10 October 2008, 14:51
very nice tc  :cool:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: 182_blue on 10 October 2008, 14:52
Nice,are you fitting them
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: MAT ed30 on 10 October 2008, 14:56
if you fit them get the 4 wheel alignment done asap
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: sharpie on 10 October 2008, 14:57
looks like some good kit. lets have more time putting them on the car and less time arranging them in the garden taking photos :)

agree with above about alignment.
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Saint Steve on 10 October 2008, 14:59
You'd think that TC would fit them to his car wouldnt you and not his latest accquisition :smiley:
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s264/philmcavity/Tcspram.jpg)
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 10 October 2008, 14:59
Nice,are you fitting them
NO i fancied fitting the anti lift kit but i am going to get them done both together as alignment is advised with both.
MR Tony Danza has put me onto a good place hopefully called Votex in congleton who also happen to be my nearest Revo dealer so when funds allow i think they will be doing the job.  :smiley:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Edition30 on 10 October 2008, 15:01
What does the anti lift kit do  :undecided:

I take it all this improves the handling?
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: 182_blue on 10 October 2008, 15:02
Nice,are you fitting them
NO i fancied fitting the anti lift kit but i am going to get them done both together as alignment is advised with both.
MR Tony Danza has put me onto a good place hopefully called Votex in congleton who also happen to be my nearest Revo dealer so when funds allow i think they will be doing the job.  :smiley:

do you need to allow for them to settle before the allingment ?
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 10 October 2008, 15:03
What does the anti lift kit do  :undecided:

I take it all this improves the handling?

It does this.  :smiley:

                http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=93517.0
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 10 October 2008, 15:05
Nice,are you fitting them
NO i fancied fitting the anti lift kit but i am going to get them done both together as alignment is advised with both.
MR Tony Danza has put me onto a good place hopefully called Votex in congleton who also happen to be my nearest Revo dealer so when funds allow i think they will be doing the job.  :smiley:

do you need to allow for them to settle before the allingment ?

Well ithought this, but i periodically asked hurdy after he had his done and he reckons they dont but hopefully he will see this and update us.  :smiley:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: SteveP on 10 October 2008, 15:10
Very very nice bits of kit TC  :cool:

Only problem is now you will have to go back to the ghetto to retake you sig pic with your nicely lowered GTI  :grin:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: dan_apps on 10 October 2008, 15:12
Nice Tom! how much did the coilovers set you back?

Dan
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 10 October 2008, 15:16
Nice Tom! how much did the coilovers set you back?

Dan

About £ 835 almost every one was doing them for £ 859 to 899 but the nice man did me a better price because i got the lift kit off him as well.  :smiley:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: sharpie on 10 October 2008, 15:18
£800 thats alot
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: 182_blue on 10 October 2008, 15:21
£800 thats alot
someones bored, or lost
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: sharpie on 10 October 2008, 15:22
£800 thats alot
someones bored, or lost

bored tbh. you could buy several cars for that money though  :laugh:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: SteveP on 10 October 2008, 15:23
£800 thats alot
someones bored, or lost

Yep, as always a really useful comment :rolleyes:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: MAT ed30 on 10 October 2008, 15:27
i love this on all the posts  :laugh:
Last Edit: Today  by Phil Mcavity »  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: sharpie on 10 October 2008, 15:28
£800 thats alot
someones bored, or lost

Yep, as always a really useful comment :rolleyes:

unfortunately my original comment was edited.
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Saint Steve on 10 October 2008, 15:29
or i could completely remove it, no swearing thankyou
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: 182_blue on 10 October 2008, 15:31
Because everything you post on the mk5 section is so usefull sharpie
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: sharpie on 10 October 2008, 15:32
Because everything you post on the mk5 section is so usefull sharpie

you're welcome.
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 10 October 2008, 15:33
Guys he wasn't being that bad for once i didnt put the pics up for help so he is entitled to say what he thinks. this time.
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: dan_apps on 10 October 2008, 15:38
TC  look ossum mate, if i had the cash thats what id be doin!  :cool:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 10 October 2008, 16:15
£800 thats alot
someones bored, or lost

Yep, as always a really useful comment :rolleyes:

unfortunately my original comment was edited.

And your sig!  :wink:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: NewGolf on 10 October 2008, 16:57
£800 thats alot
someones bored, or lost

bored tbh. you could buy several cars for that money though  :laugh:

No, let me correct you. Only You could buy several cars for £835.  :wink: Us real Mk5 owners paid a lot more that that for our cars.

Just because you drive a Lada 1200, don't assume we are like you Mr Sharpie Esq.
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: sharpie on 10 October 2008, 17:30
And your sig!  :wink:

it is my sig, it's a joke, relating to the number of posts i've had edited in the past.


£800 thats alot
someones bored, or lost

bored tbh. you could buy several cars for that money though  :laugh:

No, let me correct you. Only You could buy several cars for £835.  :wink: Us real Mk5 owners paid a lot more that that for our cars.

Just because you drive a Lada 1200, don't assume we are like you Mr Sharpie Esq.

that's a bit of an elitist comment to make. i've said it before and no doubt will say it again, but for mk5 money you could build one hell of a mk2.

i think that's enough deviation from topic for today
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: MAT ed30 on 10 October 2008, 17:43
some of us have a mk2 aswell  :tongue:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: k4ith on 10 October 2008, 21:06
I was recommended the KW kit also. gonna read about this lift thingy-ma-jiggy.

Trying to buy a half decent mk2 at the moment or a mk3 for that matter, for some reason folks dont add the cont no's ?
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 10 October 2008, 22:00
And your sig!  :wink:

it is my sig, it's a joke, relating to the number of posts i've had edited in the past.

Ahh right.  See, you can be witty when you want to!  :wink:  :grin:  :smiley:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: NewGolf on 11 October 2008, 09:48
Cor he's funny.

Like toothache.

Great kit you have there TC, let us know what the car rides like once you have had it all fitted.
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 15 October 2008, 16:40
Booked in for fitting on the 31.st of this month.

 Have any of you guys who bought the anit lift kit fitted it yet  :undecided: John_ o, RR I am keen to find out what you guys think.  :smiley:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: joesgti on 15 October 2008, 16:49
missed this thred TC, congrats on the new purchase  :smiley: :smiley:

oh and id get laser aligned after a week of fitting as your tyers wont be much different after a week and it leaves for your coils to drop, i paid 80quid for mine to be done, only to find that i had to do it again 2 weeks later  :laugh:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 15 October 2008, 17:01
missed this thred TC, congrats on the new purchase  :smiley: :smiley:

oh and id get laser aligned after a week of fitting as your tyers wont be much different after a week and it leaves for your coils to drop, i paid 80quid for mine to be done, only to find that i had to do it again 2 weeks later  :laugh:

Joe do you know why they need to be re-aligned again. And if this is true why have the 2 or 3 places i have spoke to not mentioned this as they have gone through the fitting process with me with out a mention of this surely it would be in there best interest to tell me this as they can make more money out of the deal.  :undecided:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: RedRobin on 15 October 2008, 17:30
Booked in for fitting on the 31.st of this month.

 Have any of you guys who bought the anit lift kit fitted it yet  :undecided: John_ o, RR I am keen to find out what you guys think.  :smiley:

....Hi TC :smiley: - I've got my AntiLift kit ready and waiting and have just started talking with VWR this morning about my suspension to replace my failing KoniFSD's. We are talking KW too - VWR have a technical partnership with KW direct in Germany which means things can be bespoke rather than off the shelf. Due to their usual racing committments and ordering from KW, it's going to be at least several weeks before my car goes into their workshop but what's being discussed is quite exciting and I don't have any problem with how they work with me. They haven't used the AntiLifts themselves and so are interested how it might all work together.

I'll keep you posted and am very interested to hear your own findings in due course. :afro:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 15 October 2008, 17:43
Cheers red
 I have been looking at some racing KW's in a magazine there is a few extra bits on them babies but they cost a small fortune. only a man of your wallet size could afford them.  :wink:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: RedRobin on 15 October 2008, 18:24
....

Yes, the full-on hardcore racing KW kits do cost a small fortune but we are looking at coming up with a setup which is more appropriate to fast road but still with some adjustability to get it in the sweet spot. How low or not is not a primary concern.

Whichever KW kit - They are renowned for their quality and support so I would say you have made an excellent choice.

Are you also changing your Anti-roll bars?

:afro:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: john_o on 15 October 2008, 19:45
not yet TC I afraid , there is a chance they may be on before the 31st tho :-)
They make excellent paperweights too  :laugh:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: jv on 16 October 2008, 00:11
replace my failing KoniFSD's.
What has happened there?

Are the KW's a move from the variant 1's? Or is it a clubsport version?
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: joesgti on 16 October 2008, 09:40
missed this thred TC, congrats on the new purchase  :smiley: :smiley:

oh and id get laser aligned after a week of fitting as your tyers wont be much different after a week and it leaves for your coils to drop, i paid 80quid for mine to be done, only to find that i had to do it again 2 weeks later  :laugh:

Joe do you know why they need to be re-aligned again. And if this is true why have the 2 or 3 places i have spoke to not mentioned this as they have gone through the fitting process with me with out a mention of this surely it would be in there best interest to tell me this as they can make more money out of the deal.  :undecided:

nope  :undecided: just remember taking it to get laser aligned at a local garage, then went to awesome to have some bits done and he said it needed doing again,

i think its because it will need bedding in so will drop an extra 5-10mm  :smiley: this is my understanding anyway  :undecided:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: RedRobin on 16 October 2008, 10:08
replace my failing KoniFSD's.
What has happened there?

Are the KW's a move from the variant 1's? Or is it a clubsport version?

....My FSD's are Koni's first version (since revised and being revised yet again). I've done about 50k miles on them and they should still be good but two very experienced track drivers (suspension savvy), plus our very own Phil's convoy obs, plus myself (before anyone else's comments) have each totally independently noticed the problem - On straight M-way sections they'll behave as if underdampened with hard rebound which results in a soft feel. My VW dealer has inspected them with me present and we find no evidence of leakage. Koni will take them back to Holland for bench testing and honour their warranty or not, according to their findings.

So, it makes sense to take advantage of the opportunity and my relationship with VWR to employ their skills and their special relationship with KW to sort out a fast road setup for my needs. I may yet be tempted onto track so Clubsport may be ideal but I'll be taking VWR's advice which is based on our chats. They've now driven my car about 200 miles so also have some familiarity.

When the job is done I'll start a new post on the subject.

:afro:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: 08micsta on 16 October 2008, 10:12
Great Purchase TC!  :cool:

Your car will look great once its done. Suspension is almost the number one mod before remap.

Mike
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: RedRobin on 16 October 2008, 12:42
Great Purchase TC!  :cool:

Your car will look great once its done. Suspension is almost the number one mod before remap.

Mike

....But are you guys revising the suspension for looks alone? (ETTO of course)
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: 08micsta on 16 October 2008, 12:47
Great Purchase TC!  :cool:

Your car will look great once its done. Suspension is almost the number one mod before remap.

Mike

....But are you guys revising the suspension for looks alone? (ETTO of course)

Here comes an arguement  :laugh:

To be fair the standard suspension does a very good job as it is. I feel most people agree with that.

 I think that most people upgrade purely for looks and not for performance. You (RedRobin) for example want to track the car every now and then so a proper upgrade is essential. In TC's case I think it is purely for looks. Much like I would only drop a car for looks as I know it will probably never see the track.

The question we should be asking is:

What suspension system offers the best balance between driveability and cosmetic attraction...

Mike
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: joesgti on 16 October 2008, 12:54
mine is done for looks, and it looks coooooooooooool  :drool: although i do have the uprated arbs also  :smug: so its also drives like its on rails.....when its dry  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Greenouse on 16 October 2008, 13:16
Mine was also mainly for looks, but without spoiling what little ride comfort there is! As a bonus the car corners flatter but as I don't like to drive my car too hard this wasn't in the initial thought process.  :wink:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Hurdy on 16 October 2008, 13:17
Mine definitely wasn't done for "stance"

It has only been lowered about 20mm from standard due to obstacles beyond my control in my area. :sad:

The main reason was to enhance the control of the car due to the extra power, plus I'd heard that Eibach's damped better than the standard suspension - which they do :cool:

Wanting those pics of TC in his slammed motor now please :smiley:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: RedRobin on 16 October 2008, 13:33
Great Purchase TC!  :cool:

Your car will look great once its done. Suspension is almost the number one mod before remap.

Mike

....But are you guys revising the suspension for looks alone? (ETTO of course)

Here comes an arguement  :laugh:

To be fair the standard suspension does a very good job as it is. I feel most people agree with that.

 I think that most people upgrade purely for looks and not for performance. You (RedRobin) for example want to track the car every now and then so a proper upgrade is essential. In TC's case I think it is purely for looks. Much like I would only drop a car for looks as I know it will probably never see the track.

The question we should be asking is:

What suspension system offers the best balance between driveability and cosmetic attraction...

Mike

....I'm not seeking an argument but it does make a good debate or discussion :smiley:

As you say, Mike, the stock suspension (and chassis) is very good indeed but as with nearly all factory cars, improvements can be made, both functionally and cosmetically.

There has always been a compromise and uneasy balance between suspension which improves handling but remains comfortable on the road. In 2005 the introduction of Koni FSD's were considered a big step in effecting a good compromise, especially if combined with Anti-roll bars. On track, comfort is of far less importance and also cars tend to be lowered much more. That 'track look' of being lowered with camber is a very cool look and naturally one which car enthusiasts seek to emulate - There's nothing wrong with that but only as long as 'the look' doesn't ruin the handling, and it can. Individual comfort preferences are up to the individual.

Suspension designers are continually striving to create products which strike a good and comfortable compromise for fast road use, and even car manufacturers are including user-switchable suspension options, though I can't say I'm over impressed by VW's efforts - Still very 'softcore' imo.

Ultimately it is up to the individual.

[I hope you'll say if you think we're hijacking your thread, TC]

Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: RedRobin on 16 October 2008, 13:36
....

Also, as Hurdy says, increased performance begs for improved suspension. The slippery slope! :evil:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: joesgti on 16 October 2008, 14:10
Great Purchase TC!  :cool:

Your car will look great once its done. Suspension is almost the number one mod before remap.

Mike

....But are you guys revising the suspension for looks alone? (ETTO of course)

Here comes an arguement  :laugh:

To be fair the standard suspension does a very good job as it is. I feel most people agree with that.

 I think that most people upgrade purely for looks and not for performance. You (RedRobin) for example want to track the car every now and then so a proper upgrade is essential. In TC's case I think it is purely for looks. Much like I would only drop a car for looks as I know it will probably never see the track.

The question we should be asking is:

What suspension system offers the best balance between driveability and cosmetic attraction...

Mike

....I'm not seeking an argument but it does make a good debate or discussion :smiley:

As you say, Mike, the stock suspension (and chassis) is very good indeed but as with nearly all factory cars, improvements can be made, both functionally and cosmetically.

There has always been a compromise and uneasy balance between suspension which improves handling but remains comfortable on the road. In 2005 the introduction of Koni FSD's were considered a big step in effecting a good compromise, especially if combined with Anti-roll bars. On track, comfort is of far less importance and also cars tend to be lowered much more. That 'track look' of being lowered with camber is a very cool look and naturally one which car enthusiasts seek to emulate - There's nothing wrong with that but only as long as 'the look' doesn't ruin the handling, and it can. Individual comfort preferences are up to the individual.

Suspension designers are continually striving to create products which strike a good and comfortable compromise for fast road use, and even car manufacturers are including user-switchable suspension options, though I can't say I'm over impressed by VW's efforts - Still very 'softcore' imo.

Ultimately it is up to the individual.

[I hope you'll say if you think we're hijacking your thread, TC]



i think youd be impressed with the porsche turbo, as soon as the switch for the susspension is pressed there is a MASSIVE difference, going from a soft (but sturdy) set up to a very VERY bone ratteling hard set up. quite incredible really, not sure how it works but is think its something to do with magnets.

also the range rover we have actually allows you to adjust the ride height with a little button, looks good on its lowest (slammed  :laugh:) setting  :smiley:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 16 October 2008, 16:20
80 % of my cars use is purely for finding quiet roads in Wales and pretending i am a rally driver  :laugh: or it will be when i get the brakes upgraded Filthy rich Luca  :grin: stole my new brakes from under my nose on ebay  :angry:  :sad:  :wink:
So the new set up is for this reason or i would not have bothered buying the anti lift kit.  :nerd:
Also though i do like the look of lowered cars it is a Vdub tradition and it will be getting lowered a bit  :evil:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: RedRobin on 16 October 2008, 16:28
^^^^

Totally justified, TC! Safe but fun journeys :afro: :cool: :afro:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Hurdy on 16 October 2008, 16:32
LOL TC :grin:

Luca needs to get his pics up fast or I'll have to Torture have a word with him :laugh:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Top Cat on 16 October 2008, 16:35
Filthy rich luca is probably out right now buying a 1/4 of a mile drag strip for his and V-tecs private use  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: Hurdy on 16 October 2008, 16:54
Filthy rich luca is probably out right now buying a 1/4 of a mile drag strip for his and V-tecs private use  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 :grin: :grin:

They offered to buy mine, but I need it for the Leerjet :wink:
Title: Re: **** The postman always rings twice. ****
Post by: 08micsta on 17 October 2008, 07:59
Leerjet? Pfft how mediocre?












I considered buying it for my Boeing so I can pull it up and down the runway with a Tuareg  :evil: