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Title: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: flywalker on 09 October 2008, 14:41
My wife recently bought a 2005 Golf GTI . I would like to install the RCD 510 or maybe even the Rns 510. I saw previous posts made
reference to a different can bus standard for  MY05 cars and perhaps the need for a can bus adapter to get the RCD/RNS 510 to work ? The car has an rcd 300 installed and basic trip computer without MFSW. Has anyone out there upgraded their '05 car with either of the above stereos? Is it just a straight swap ?
Any help would be appreciated.

 
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: AlanD on 09 October 2008, 15:16
To my knowledge if you are just upgrading to another VW spec headunit then all the CANBUS systems are the same on the back of the headunit. Its only if you are upgrading to an aftermarket unit (Alpine, Kenwood etc) that you may want the CANBUS (I have upgraded to Alpine and do not have the adaptor for example).
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 09 October 2008, 15:49
I haven't heard of anything on the Golf MK5, the only ones where there was is a CAN BUS version issue (1.6 to 2.0 I believe is  :undecided:) was on the early Toureg and T5 Vans for the RNS-510.

Have a look at www.vwnavi.com to get 100% confirmation though.

HTH  :smiley:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: flywalker on 09 October 2008, 18:02
Thanks guys. Will have a look.
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: flywalker on 22 October 2008, 15:36
To answer my own question.. ...I replaced an RCD300 with an RCD510 in our my05 gti  today without a problem. Just a direct swap, plug n play.
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 22 October 2008, 16:03
Steve, the nav disc you got with your 510, does it give the full post code option, or just part (like mine  :sad:)? I have been told there is a updated CD that has the full post code option on it, but when asking VW, they said it's £160  :shocked:. All I need to do is put it in my unit for a sec so it can download the disc on to the hard drive. Sod paying £160 for it though..  :undecided:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: 182_blue on 22 October 2008, 16:06
Steve, the nav disc you got with your 510, does it give the full post code option, or just part (like mine  :sad:)? I have been told there is a updated CD that has the full post code option on it, but when asking VW, they said it's £160  :shocked:. All I need to do is put it in my unit for a sec so it can download the disc on to the hard drive. Sod paying £160 for it though..  :undecided:

do you get a partial search on the postcode , as there wasnt a full search available when i last looked (disc version 3) ?, what CD version are you on , also if your on 2 the dealer was supposed to upgrade you to 3 for free (not sure there still doing this though
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Top Cat on 22 October 2008, 16:07
Steve, the nav disc you got with your 510, does it give the full post code option, or just part (like mine  :sad:)? I have been told there is a updated CD that has the full post code option on it, but when asking VW, they said it's £160  :shocked:. All I need to do is put it in my unit for a sec so it can download the disc on to the hard drive. Sod paying £160 for it though..  :undecided:

Hopefully he will correct me but i think he just uses the 4 digit disc  :sad:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 22 October 2008, 16:21
Steve, the nav disc you got with your 510, does it give the full post code option, or just part (like mine  :sad:)? I have been told there is a updated CD that has the full post code option on it, but when asking VW, they said it's £160  :shocked:. All I need to do is put it in my unit for a sec so it can download the disc on to the hard drive. Sod paying £160 for it though..  :undecided:

do you get a partial search on the postcode , as there wasnt a full search available when i last looked (disc version 3) ?, what CD version are you on , also if your on 2 the dealer was supposed to upgrade you to 3 for free (not sure there still doing this though
Just checked mate and it's V3 i've got. So there isn't a full 6 digit postcode option available then? :undecided:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 22 October 2008, 16:25
^^^ TC was close it's a max 5 character entry  :tongue:

So for "NN11 1AA" all you can enter is "NN11 1" and then select the street from within that district.

In this day and age that isn't great but far better than the early versions of the RNS-510 mapping disc.

HTH  :smiley:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: 182_blue on 22 October 2008, 16:29
Steve, the nav disc you got with your 510, does it give the full post code option, or just part (like mine  :sad:)? I have been told there is a updated CD that has the full post code option on it, but when asking VW, they said it's £160  :shocked:. All I need to do is put it in my unit for a sec so it can download the disc on to the hard drive. Sod paying £160 for it though..  :undecided:

do you get a partial search on the postcode , as there wasnt a full search available when i last looked (disc version 3) ?, what CD version are you on , also if your on 2 the dealer was supposed to upgrade you to 3 for free (not sure there still doing this though
Just checked mate and it's V3 i've got. So there isn't a full 6 digit postcode option available then? :undecided:

thats the highest then mate  :huh:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 22 October 2008, 16:56
Oh arse!!!  :sad: Pain really, as you still need the road name with the postcode, so it's not that much of an advantage over ones without Postcode software.. Awsome unit, but shame the nav part of it gets out done by my old 3 yeard old basic Tom Tom one  :undecided:.. You'd think for nearly £2000, it would have it really.. Never mind, i'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it..  :smiley:

One other thing.. Can you get a speed display up at all (GPS speed)? Another thing the old Tom Tom has which I haven't found that the 510 does..  :undecided:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: R32UK on 22 October 2008, 19:16
Oh arse!!!  :sad: Pain really, as you still need the road name with the postcode, so it's not that much of an advantage over ones without Postcode software.. Awsome unit, but shame the nav part of it gets out done by my old 3 yeard old basic Tom Tom one  :undecided:.. You'd think for nearly £2000, it would have it really.. Never mind, i'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it..  :smiley:

One other thing.. Can you get a speed display up at all (GPS speed)? Another thing the old Tom Tom has which I haven't found that the 510 does..  :undecided:


Not that I have managed to find.. and still found myself using my tom tom on my way down the A1 last time just to check all the speed camera updates were correct (which they were :smiley:).. and obviously the audio on the tom tom helps too. but doesnt the RNS510 look soooooo pretty  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 22 October 2008, 20:14
Doesn't it just mate.. Would pay the money just for the looks  :cool: :grin:
Wish the RNS 510 had speed camera alerts too..  :undecided: The audio on it is good though, although I usually have it turned off...
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: 182_blue on 22 October 2008, 20:17
Doesn't it just mate.. Would pay the money just for the looks  :cool: :grin:
Wish the RNS 510 had speed camera alerts too..  :undecided: The audio on it is good though, although I usually have it turned off...

yeh the dash looks so much better with the nav in, also like the visible speed cameras on the RNS510, shame theres no audible warnings though
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 22 October 2008, 20:19
Doesn't it just mate.. Would pay the money just for the looks  :cool: :grin:
Wish the RNS 510 had speed camera alerts too..  :undecided: The audio on it is good though, although I usually have it turned off...

yeh the dash looks so much better with the nav in, also like the visible speed cameras on the RNS510, shame theres no audible warnings though

Yep, that plus full postcode look-up and I would be an even happier man.

One good thing is while it's still a current unit with the latest generation cars there is at least hope of improved software over the coming months  :smiley:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: 182_blue on 22 October 2008, 20:24
Doesn't it just mate.. Would pay the money just for the looks  :cool: :grin:
Wish the RNS 510 had speed camera alerts too..  :undecided: The audio on it is good though, although I usually have it turned off...

yeh the dash looks so much better with the nav in, also like the visible speed cameras on the RNS510, shame theres no audible warnings though

Yep, that plus full postcode look-up and I would be an even happier man.

One good thing is while it's still a current unit with the latest generation cars there is at least hope of improved software over the coming months  :smiley:

i considered this for just the audible side http://www.buyinforad.com/index.php?page_id=4&currency=gbp&lang=en&promo_id=xmas  , seem small enough to keep out the way ?
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: AlanD on 22 October 2008, 20:28
Id do my nut in if my satnav didn't have postcode, its a million times easier. VW taking the piss or something?
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 22 October 2008, 20:31

also like the visible speed cameras on the RNS510,

 :huh: Am I missing something, never seen them? Do you have to activate it or something Shaun?
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: 182_blue on 22 October 2008, 20:38
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/IMG_0480.jpg)

those
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 22 October 2008, 20:39

also like the visible speed cameras on the RNS510,

 :huh: Am I missing something, never seen them? Do you have to activate it or something Shaun?

Where have you been Vtec  :grin:

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/IMG_0480.jpg)

EDIT - Sorry Shaun didn't see your post  :embarassed:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: 182_blue on 22 October 2008, 20:40
LOL, steve, i dont think Vtec has the special dvd  :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 22 October 2008, 20:43
LOL, steve, i dont think Vtec has the special dvd  :wink: :cool:

Doesn't look that way does it  :laugh:

I am sure if he asks nicely someone might be able to sort it out for him  :wink:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: 182_blue on 22 October 2008, 20:49
LOL, steve, i dont think Vtec has the special dvd  :wink: :cool:

Doesn't look that way does it  :laugh:

I am sure if he asks nicely someone might be able to sort it out for him  :wink:

yeh, reckon so  :wink: :laugh:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Vdubulyer on 22 October 2008, 21:22
Ok I give up! How do you get the speed signs?!  :huh:

Is this some sort of update from vw?
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 22 October 2008, 22:11
LOL, steve, i dont think Vtec has the special dvd  :wink: :cool:


Doesn't look that way does it  :laugh:

I am sure if he asks nicely someone might be able to sort it out for him  :wink:
How about with a cherry on top?  :cry:
Not seen that before, that's for sure.. :sad:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Top Cat on 22 October 2008, 22:28
LOL, steve, i dont think Vtec has the special dvd  :wink: :cool:


Doesn't look that way does it  :laugh:

I am sure if he asks nicely someone might be able to sort it out for him  :wink:
How about with a cherry on top?  :cry:
Not seen that before, that's for sure.. :sad:

There was a 20 page spread on here no more than 2 months ago  :grin: MR geek willsort you out  :smiley:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 22 October 2008, 22:50
LOL, steve, i dont think Vtec has the special dvd  :wink: :cool:


Doesn't look that way does it  :laugh:

I am sure if he asks nicely someone might be able to sort it out for him  :wink:
How about with a cherry on top?  :cry:
Not seen that before, that's for sure.. :sad:

There was a 20 page spread on here no more than 2 months ago  :grin: MR geek willsort you out  :smiley:

Yes as the Cat Man says if anyone is interested in this Speed camera add-on then drop me a PM  :smiley:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: vRStu on 22 October 2008, 22:54
Are you still doing the Skoda ones Steve, not any use to me now but I reckon I know a couple of people who'd be interested.
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 22 October 2008, 22:59
Are you still doing the Skoda ones Steve, not any use to me now but I reckon I know a couple of people who'd be interested.

Yep the revised/latest version I have put together now works on Skoda, Seat & VW versions of the RNS-510  :nerd:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: vRStu on 22 October 2008, 23:08
You are the man!!
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: hedge on 22 October 2008, 23:22
Are you still doing the Skoda ones Steve, not any use to me now but I reckon I know a couple of people who'd be interested.

I think vRStu means me.  :wink:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 23 October 2008, 06:30
Are you still doing the Skoda ones Steve, not any use to me now but I reckon I know a couple of people who'd be interested.

I think vRStu means me.  :wink:

Hello & Welcome Hedge  :cool:

You won't be able to PM until you have ten posts so you can email me if you are interested in the speed camera POI updates "steve at stevepound dot co dot uk".  :smiley:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: tony_danza on 23 October 2008, 09:18
What's the going price on an RNS-510 these days?

I want shut of the Fisher Price "my first radio" ASAP!
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: R32UK on 23 October 2008, 09:21
Not having the full postcode is ok if you have the street name. If you dont.... well then you get to spend a few extra minutes driving around! :grin:

With such a good quality map/zoom function it doesnt take long!!
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Top Cat on 23 October 2008, 10:18
What's the going price on an RNS-510 these days?

I want shut of the Fisher Price "my first radio" ASAP!

£ 750 ish that Tony
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: tony_danza on 23 October 2008, 10:40
That's nearly acceptable, considering I'll want the Bluetooth & MMI on top.

I might get some stuff on ebay I've got lying around and see what Santa brings me for Christmas?
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: AlanD on 23 October 2008, 10:56
What's the going price on an RNS-510 these days?

I want shut of the Fisher Price "my first radio" ASAP!

£ 750 ish that Tony

Without trying to sound like a dick (I am going to be biased in my opinion here) I have spent considerably less than that in upgrading my HU to an decent Alpine HU (only single din mind you), 2 8'' subs and an amp to power it all. I am also planning up on upgradeing the speakers and will still have spent A LOT less than £750. I know it does look pretty and all but an aftermarket HUs with a decent sub and amp with upgraded speakers is going to sound a million times better.

Just my 2 pence worth.
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: tony_danza on 23 October 2008, 11:27
No, you're perfectly entitled to pick what's best for you. Sounds like you have a nice system.

All I want is NAV and a decent functioning ipod link in an OEM bundle.. I know I could get a double din aftermarket one cheaper, but it won't work with my full computer and they just scream "pinch me"

I can put it in my MKVI GTI/Scirocco in 12 months time when I swap cars too.
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Russ.C on 23 October 2008, 14:22
Does the RCD have the built in hd like the RNS? I fancy one but don't need the sat nav.  This RCD listing on ebay doesn't mention a hd... :undecided:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 23 October 2008, 14:27
Does the RCD have the built in hd like the RNS? I fancy one but don't need the sat nav.  This RCD listing on ebay doesn't mention a hd... :undecided:

Nope no Hard Drive on these  :sad:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Russ.C on 23 October 2008, 14:41
Does the RCD have the built in hd like the RNS? I fancy one but don't need the sat nav.  This RCD listing on ebay doesn't mention a hd... :undecided:

Nope no Hard Drive on these  :sad:

cheers for that steve, shame no hard drive, wanted to save a few quid as I don't need sat nav.  Oh well.  Start saving for the full fat version I suppose!  :smiley:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: tony_danza on 23 October 2008, 14:53
It does have an SD card slot though, yes?

So that's 2Gig of music at least.
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 23 October 2008, 15:00
It does have an SD card slot though, yes?

So that's 2Gig of music at least.

I believe so, but the hard drive (which has 18GB of usable space after the maps are loaded) is better than having a few SD hards floating around.

Last time I cleaned the inside of the car I nearly lost an SD card to the vacuum cleaner  :grin:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: tony_danza on 23 October 2008, 15:12
heehee!

I guess it depends on the price difference between the 2 units, some times it's worth paying a bit more - other times it's enough difference to make it easy to live with.

Oh, another question. Has anyone looked into retro-fitting some of the Rocco's HK upgrades??
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 23 October 2008, 15:25
heehee!

I guess it depends on the price difference between the 2 units, some times it's worth paying a bit more - other times it's enough difference to make it easy to live with.

Oh, another question. Has anyone looked into retro-fitting some of the Rocco's HK upgrades??

Do you mean the Dynaudio stuff??

I am correctly looking ino the DAB option for the RCD/RNS-510 thats available for the Rocco to see whats required to fit this to a MK5  :nerd:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: tony_danza on 23 October 2008, 15:46
Oops, yeah Dynaudio in the VW. I've got HK in the C30 - got confused!

It'd be handy if some of the stuff was retro-fittable.
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Edition30 on 23 October 2008, 16:14
whats the difference between the rns and rcd?  :huh:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: 182_blue on 23 October 2008, 16:16
whats the difference between the rns and rcd?  :huh:

No sat nav, no hardrive and less buttons on the Rcd, there will be more i guess but not worth worrying about
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: SteveP on 23 October 2008, 16:17
whats the difference between the rns and rcd?  :huh:

RNS = Touch Screen with Navigation, 30GB Hard Drive and DVD Drive (For Video and MP3 playback from DVD)

RCD = Touch Screen Non Navigation Version without a Hard Drive or DVD Drive.

HTH
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: Edition30 on 23 October 2008, 16:46
Be looking to get the RNS then, when possible, cheers.
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: R32UK on 23 October 2008, 18:45
Be looking to get the RNS then, when possible, cheers.

Do it.. you wont regret!!! :grin:
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: ub7rm on 24 October 2008, 13:47
Appols for a bit of hi-jack here but I'm looking to upgrade my RCD300 to something that isn't naff.  I'd love to get an RNS510 but paying about £1k for a jumped up tom tom is far too much for me so am looking at an older MFD2. 

Now this may seem like a stupid question but does the MFD2 store the nav maps internally like the RNS or does it need to have the DVD in all the time?  This would presumably rule out playing a CD at the same time as having the Nav disk in?
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: 182_blue on 24 October 2008, 13:48
Appols for a bit of hi-jack here but I'm looking to upgrade my RCD300 to something that isn't naff.  I'd love to get an RNS510 but paying about £1k for a jumped up tom tom is far too much for me so am looking at an older MFD2. 

Now this may seem like a stupid question but does the MFD2 store the nav maps internally like the RNS or does it need to have the DVD in all the time?  This would presumably rule out playing a CD at the same time as having the Nav disk in?

The nav disc needs to be in the slot
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: flywalker on 07 November 2008, 20:50
An update on the rcd 510 recently installed in my 05 GTI. The car  battery started to go flat if unused for about 2 days.
Took it to an auto electrician & he confirmed the stereo is constantly drawing on the battery when off. He reckons the stereo is
preventing the cars electrical system from going into " sleep mode" when car is parked up. He reckons it may need programming  with Vag-Com . Anyone have any ideas  ?
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: candy turbo on 08 November 2008, 08:36
Appols for a bit of hi-jack here but I'm looking to upgrade my RCD300 to something that isn't naff.  I'd love to get an RNS510 but paying about £1k for a jumped up tom tom is far too much for me so am looking at an older MFD2. 

Now this may seem like a stupid question but does the MFD2 store the nav maps internally like the RNS or does it need to have the DVD in all the time?  This would presumably rule out playing a CD at the same time as having the Nav disk in?
you can play discs via the 6 disc player while using the sat nav ! imo vw sat nav is crap , ive got the mfd 2 in mine and its rubbish for sat nav , dont think its changed in the rns either the limited post code and its mapping are very poor go buy a nav man , much better !
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: ub7rm on 08 November 2008, 10:41
Does the MFD2 have a built in 6 disc changer or do you mean the armrest changer?  I have the ipod adaptor in there at the moment and despite its limitations would probably keep that with the MFD2.

I appreciate what your saying about the crap sat nav but to be honest I'm only changing it for a bit of dashboard bling, and better sound quality? I've managed the last three years without sat nav so anything will be an improvement!
Title: Re: RNS/RCD 510
Post by: 2007GTI on 08 November 2008, 12:34
you are wrong candyman, as the RNS 510 does 3D mapping, which the MFD2 cannot.

also the postcode isnt perfect but works pretty good.

Appols for a bit of hi-jack here but I'm looking to upgrade my RCD300 to something that isn't naff.  I'd love to get an RNS510 but paying about £1k for a jumped up tom tom is far too much for me so am looking at an older MFD2. 

Now this may seem like a stupid question but does the MFD2 store the nav maps internally like the RNS or does it need to have the DVD in all the time?  This would presumably rule out playing a CD at the same time as having the Nav disk in?
you can play discs via the 6 disc player while using the sat nav ! imo vw sat nav is crap , ive got the mfd 2 in mine and its rubbish for sat nav , dont think its changed in the rns either the limited post code and its mapping are very poor go buy a nav man , much better !