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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: luca on 27 September 2008, 13:37
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Cant tell and the seller doesnt explain what size they are :sad:
Can anyone tell by looking at them?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-LEON-CUPRA-VW-FRONT-BRAKE-DISCS-CALLIPERS-BREMBO_W0QQitemZ320304731041QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320304731041&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Thanks
Luca
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does look like the 345mm set up from the current cupra.
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The seller has just replied and said they are 335mm by 30mm :huh:
I know they are supposed to be 345mm arent they? How thick are the discs supposed to be?
Mybe he just measued it wrong.
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Just bought them lol. If they are wrong i will get my money back through paypal. Got them for £210 -5% discount voucher from ebay so £223 delivered :grin:.
Does anyone know where i can get some good pads from to fit the calipers?
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the discs should be 345mmx30mm.
Ferodo / Pagid do aftermarket pads to fit that caliper. I would stick to OEM ones to keep the pad sensor.
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Dont think they come with pads so will go for the ferodo ones. Is it the ds2500 i need?
Where can i get them from?
Not fussed about the pad wear sensor, i will just keep an eye on the pads myself :smiley:
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Look like they have pads in the pic - almost new too
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He is selling a few cupra bits so they should be the right ones
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why the hell is he breaking a brand new car?
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Either a total loss crash, or stolen and stripped LOL , he broke a bmw before this, or they could prep racing cars ?
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Cant tell and the seller doesnt explain what size they are :sad:
Can anyone tell by looking at them?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-LEON-CUPRA-VW-FRONT-BRAKE-DISCS-CALLIPERS-BREMBO_W0QQitemZ320304731041QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320304731041&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Wooah - they certainly are NOT Brembo calipers. :angry:
They are OEM-spec Teves ATE FNRG calipers, and yes, they are from the current Leon Cupra.
The correct size for the discs should be 345mm in diameter, and 30mm thick.
If you fit them to a GTI or Ed30, then you will also need the larger rear splash shields (1K0 615 311 C and 1K0 615 312 C - about a fiver for each), and the different flexible brake hoses (1K0 611 701 M - qty2). And a litre of fresh Volkswagen-only brake fluid (B 000 750 M3)! :wink:
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Lol i knew they werent brembos, thats why i was worriedabout them even being from the leon cupra. Need to order the splash shields and flexi hoses. Will get the r32 ones as they are the same :smiley:
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TT are they vw part numbers?
My mate works for vw parts so do you know what the vw part numbers are?
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Lol i knew they werent brembos, thats why i was worriedabout them even being from the leon cupra. Need to order the splash shields and flexi hoses. Will get the r32 ones as they are the same :smiley:
The R32 had two different hoses, so you need to get the correct ones which will fit both ends correctly.
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TT are they vw part numbers?
Yup. :smiley:
My mate works for vw parts so do you know what the vw part numbers are?
He just needs to put those I quoted above straight into the Dialog ordering system.
Did the calipers come supplied with the pads, as shown in the pictures?
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I just gave my mate the part numbers you put up, all ordered. Thanks for that TT :smiley:
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Good bargain there.
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fitting mine in about 3 weeks time.
TT......is 1 litre of fluid enough to do the full fluid change?
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Do you need to do a fluid change?
When I used to fit 312's I would leave the cap on and just swap the pipes over. You'll obviously get air in the line but the fluid won't all leak out. As long as you make sure to keep the resoviour topped up you should be ok. Bleed them all round when you are finished.
Dropping all of the fluid out can cause you a headache unless you have a decent pressure bleeder.
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Do you need to do a fluid change?
When I used to fit 312's I would leave the cap on and just swap the pipes over. You'll obviously get air in the line but the fluid won't all leak out. As long as you make sure to keep the resoviour topped up you should be ok. Bleed them all round when you are finished.
Dropping all of the fluid out can cause you a headache unless you have a decent pressure bleeder.
Can I get away with not changing fluid? it was only done 6 months ago at the dealer mind you. we're using the conventional route of pumping the brake pedal rather than using spare wheel/eezibleed to pressure bleed the system.
but if we can avoid fluid change then that would save time!
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fitting mine in about 3 weeks time.
TT......is 1 litre of fluid enough to do the full fluid change?
For a straight-forward BFC in a manual car, then 1 litre should do - as the official specs just state purging either 200ml or 250ml from each nipple. However, if you have a manual, then you should also bleed the clutch too! :nerd: So by a couple of litre cans just to be safe. But the crucial issue is to only use "ESP" specific fluid - and obviously the genuine VW fluid is just fine (and it actually out-performs many of the so-called 5.1 fluids too :wink:)
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Do you need to do a fluid change?
No, you don't need to completely change the fluid - but rather just bleed the new calipers. But unless the calipers are "pre-filled" with brake fluid, there will be an aweful lot of air to get rid of. So invariably, it may use more fluid than during a conventional routine BFC. :smiley:
When I used to fit 312's I would leave the cap on and just swap the pipes over. You'll obviously get air in the line but the fluid won't all leak out. As long as you make sure to keep the resoviour topped up you should be ok. Bleed them all round when you are finished.
Yup. Some sound advice there. :smiley:
Another couple of tips - try to get a brake pedal depressor, then before you actually swap the calipers, crack open a bleed nipple, press the brake pedal to the floor, and clamp the pedal in this position. Then remove the resvoir cap, top up, and before screwing the cap back on, use a CLEAN freezer bag or similar over the resevoir opening, and refit the cap (the freezer bag acts as a secondary seal). Just make sure you remove the freezer bag BEFORE releasing the pedal clamp. :nerd:
Dropping all of the fluid out can cause you a headache unless you have a decent pressure bleeder.
Dropping all the fluid can be an utter ball ache, irrespective of how you bleed! :wink:
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Do you need to do a fluid change?
When I used to fit 312's I would leave the cap on and just swap the pipes over. You'll obviously get air in the line but the fluid won't all leak out. As long as you make sure to keep the resoviour topped up you should be ok. Bleed them all round when you are finished.
Dropping all of the fluid out can cause you a headache unless you have a decent pressure bleeder.
Can I get away with not changing fluid? it was only done 6 months ago at the dealer mind you. we're using the conventional route of pumping the brake pedal rather than using spare wheel/eezibleed to pressure bleed the system.
but if we can avoid fluid change then that would save time!
In theory, you shouldn't actually need to "change" the fluid, but being as the brakes use a diagonal "split-circuit", I would stronly advise on bleeding the rears too.
Another important issue - should there be the slightest doubt of air entering the ESP modulator, then this will need to be "cycled" during the bleed process. VAG-COM can do this, but if you dont have it, then just bleed everything to the best of your abilities, bolt everything up, and go for a <cough> test drive <cough>. Now on the test drive, it is important to "excercise" :wink: the ESP modulators. This can be done in a number of ways, by getting either the ESP, ABS or traction control to kick in a few times. A wet grassy playing field really makes this easy :rolleyes:, but if one isn't local, then try to find a deserted lane, complete with grassy verges - and get the traction control and ABS to operate - both sides of the car would be good, to get all ports in the ESP purged. Then after your play test, go back and re-bleed the brakes.