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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: bacillus on 26 September 2008, 11:11
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http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=57162&vf=12
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They're just bigging-up the Mk6. Just wait until the Mk7 - They'll be writing about what's lacking in the Mk6!
Most of that written article is about how much better the Mk6 is.
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They're just bigging-up the Mk6. Just wait until the Mk7 - They'll be writing about what's lacking in the Mk6!
Most of that written article is about how much better the Mk6 is.
they always do it :grin: :grin: :grin:
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err thats the standard new model press release isnt it?
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There was a post a while back wondering when vw would start calling the mk5
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Standard stuff when a new model comes out. All the majors do it.
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Agree with all the above. :grin:
It'll be a whole new bunch of issues for the MKVI then :rolleyes:
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Makes us Mk5 owners feel really good doesn't it! :finger:
The design evolution of anything always involves a very critical assessment followed by best attempts to improve. It's a never ending process.
It was Snoopy who flagged that this dissing of the outgoing model would happen.
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makes me wonder if i should buy a VW again :rolleyes:
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Agree with all the above. :grin:
It'll be a whole new bunch of issues for the MKVI then :rolleyes:
....My first issue would have to be: How do I rip out all this cabin sound-deadening crap!? I wanna hear my Milltek!! :grin:
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Agree with all the above. :grin:
It'll be a whole new bunch of issues for the MKVI then :rolleyes:
....My first issue would have to be: How do I rip out all this cabin sound-deadening crap!? I wanna hear my Milltek!! :grin:
Or start all over with the MKIV issues again :undecided:
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whats the bet there are same/similar issues with the mk6?
e.g water above door gathering
rusting bells & discs?!
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whats the bet there are same/similar issues with the mk6?
e.g water above door gathering
rusting bells & discs?!
yeh, car looks the same to me, slight re jig of the shape but i bet all the same bits are used nearly, it is a cost cutting exercise after all
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nothing in the report about the moneys its costing VW to make the mk5 compared to the mk6 ?
Or the fact that cheaper components are being fitted / reused from old model to reduce costs.
Did Vw not learn anything from the mk3 golf? ? this mk6 is gonna suck balls once people learn the truth.
Am i anti mk6 yes, for a reason they are trying to con us mk5 owners and the rest of the world by saying the mk6 is a better car than the mk5 when it isn't. :rolleyes:
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it's slowly becoming a 911 in the way they just tweek the shape abit :laugh:
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Oh my god it's a conspiracy! 'they' are out to get you, make no mistake.
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Oh my god it's a conspiracy! 'they' are out to get you, make no mistake.
PMSL
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well it looks better than the mk5 so i guess thats a start :tongue:
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The only failing I see are design ones.
The most irritating one in the Mk5 is the inability of the rear seats to fold down flat when you carrying a new TV home.
The Mk6 has not addressed this, the seats still do not fold flat.
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seems to be a sudden influx of foreigners in this post :laugh:
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seems to be a sudden influx of foreigners in this post :laugh:
Because it's mildly amusing. I drive cars which have been replaced many times over so I'm fully aware the newer ones are superior in nearly every way. I'm not bothered though because I've paid 20 times less than they cost new.
I do sympathise to an extent though. I got my DSLR in Jan and it's been replaced by TWO new models in that time!
Nick
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well it looks better than the mk5 so i guess thats a start :tongue:
should have gone to specsavers !!!
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seems to be a sudden influx of foreigners in this post :laugh:
Because it's mildly amusing. I drive cars which have been replaced many times over so I'm fully aware the newer ones are superior in nearly every way.
Except in the case of the VW Golf.
The MK1 and Mk2 GTI's were excellent cars (and they lasted longer than my Alfasud) but the MK3 and Mk4 were dismal in the extreme.
I never wanted one.
I did want a Mk5 GTI.
I don't want a Mk6.
History repeating?
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Except in the case of the VW Golf.
The MK1 and Mk2 GTI's were excellent cars (and they lasted longer than my Alfasud) but the MK3 and Mk4 were dismal in the extreme.
I never wanted one.
I did want a Mk5 GTI.
I don't want a Mk6.
History repeating?
Without annoying the mk3/4 owners out there....
I'm inclined to agree entirely!! However, im going to sit on my words about the mk6 until ive driven/seen one!
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well it looks better than the mk5 so i guess thats a start :tongue:
and just a little better then the mk3 :wink:
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A quote from when the Mk5 was first introduced : -
"While the Mk4 looked dull, the Mk5 GTi looks smart. While the Mk4 looked undistinguishable from the regular Golf, the Mk5 GTi looks noticeably different. Its big radiator grille - the first appearance of the new Volkswagen corporate grille - is blackened and decorated with red lining to deliver a more aggressive appearance. The big intakes at either side of the front bumper amplifies that sporty feel, though they are pseudo, actually a black plastic decoration. A 15 mm lower ride height is detectable by eyes. The deeper lip spoiler, side skirts and additional tailgate spoiler are even more apparent. But most important of all, no other Golfs ride on 17-inch alloy wheels with 225-width tires. Neither do they have twin exhaust pipes. See through the wheels, you will discover eye-catching red calipers clamping larger brake discs. From the appearance, the new GTi is already promising."
It goes on and on but you get the story?
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I'd like to see someone in the USA rip the guts out of VW by getting a class action together and using their quotes as supportfor getting any problems fixed. By stating that they are aware of problems (not just in the detailed construction) then I wonder how safe they are rubbishing a car that is still out and in many cases under warranty!
I willkeep this link and if I ever do have an issue with my GTI will take it with me to the service department when they start harping about how they have never heard of the problem before..fuel for the fire!
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dudes, lets face it old model cars to dealers are like ex girlfriends
"yeah it was good but this facelifted model is better"
"we've worked out a few of the problems encountered in the previous model"
"with the larger turbo she sucks harder :evil:"
"we've made the inlet larger :evil:"
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The question is - are you still happy with it?
I am happy with my mk5 still and happy with the mk4 Anniversary for that matter.
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A quote from when the Mk5 was first introduced : -
"While the Mk4 looked dull, the Mk5 GTi looks smart. While the Mk4 looked undistinguishable from the regular Golf, the Mk5 GTi looks noticeably different. Its big radiator grille - the first appearance of the new Volkswagen corporate grille - is blackened and decorated with red lining to deliver a more aggressive appearance. The big intakes at either side of the front bumper amplifies that sporty feel, though they are pseudo, actually a black plastic decoration. A 15 mm lower ride height is detectable by eyes. The deeper lip spoiler, side skirts and additional tailgate spoiler are even more apparent. But most important of all, no other Golfs ride on 17-inch alloy wheels with 225-width tires. Neither do they have twin exhaust pipes. See through the wheels, you will discover eye-catching red calipers clamping larger brake discs. From the appearance, the new GTi is already promising."
It goes on and on but you get the story?
but nothing about interior quality improvements, I bet
They knew it then already, that interior quality is crappy
When I got E30 it was fine, but after a year of driving it rattles all over, I have holes in the black floor cover (they cut some kind of holes there for some reason). Quality is the ONLY letdown in Mk5 (ok, I do not mention the quality of plastic, it is pretty crappy as well).
And you know why I whine so much about the interior quality? Because I really love E30!
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seems to be a sudden influx of foreigners in this post :laugh:
I agree, who is working in "Passport Control" Don't the "bloody foreigners" need a visa to visit this part of the world? :wink:
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crappy plastic - you need to take a look in the mk2 Leon!
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crappy plastic - you need to take a look in the mk2 Leon!
maybe, but I do not own Leon (and never will)
besides, you could just as well have said "you need to take a look in the Lada" :wink:
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Makes us Mk5 owners feel really good doesn't it! :finger:
The design evolution of anything always involves a very critical assessment followed by best attempts to improve. It's a never ending process.
It was Snoopy who flagged that this dissing of the outgoing model would happen.
Maybe i just read the wrong link (reading multiple posts at once is not good for you lol) but i don't see anything there that states anything new. I have been bleeting on about how messed up VW departments are since the late 90s. I have pointed out how as an engineer i can understand how tthe engineers got carried away with over designing some things without taking into acount production time to perfect it, Engineers need to be overseen or they go off on one and don't look at the bigger picture (door design / hindge is a real disaster on the mk5 for this, i still wonder what they were thinking). As well as many other points brought up on here and elsewere we ALL know about. We all know the design issues with the mk5.
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well it looks better than the mk5 so i guess thats a start :tongue:
and just a little better then the mk3 :wink:
i dont own a vw anymore :wink:
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tis good youve seen beyond the mk3 then rob!
What car you in now??
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ha i will just get slated but hey.... getting a 58 plate Astra vxr, took a drive and just loved it :smiley:
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ohhhhh nooooooooooooooo, May i suggest a course of Beechams!, you'll feel better soon mate :wink:.
Dont ever try racing a Ford focus ST, it will only beat you! :wink: :evil:.
Hope to see you come back some day. :wink:
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just didnt like any of the other hot hatches out there, looked at the focus, golf, civic, but for the cash i felt the astra was the best buy,(just love the look of the sport hatch) got it with 19" wheels, pearl blue paint, bi-xenon head lights and a few other bits and bobs, just great fun to drive, very rapid. Might only keep it a year or so, still fancy an S3 or even an RS, will be test driving that too.
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oops double post :sad:
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Agree with the upcoming RS, especially in that green colour they promo'd.
S3 to plain looking for my liking. Did you try the (Nurhberg) version VXR (I so can spell it). Lighter version and ment to be faster??
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yeah had a test drive, i liked it (exhaust sounds sweet) but just didnt like the white paint, the wheels look really cheap and the graphics look a bit gash, also wanted the bigger wheels and xenon's head lights, think the vxr looks best in blue so just went for that.
will be getting a re-map and zorst anyway. :smiley:
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the burg isnt lighter, just has white wheels, full exhaust with sport cat and leather as standard
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the burg isnt lighter, just has white wheels, full exhaust with sport cat and leather as standard
I followed one today from dual carriageway to the motorway today, they sound really nice, and had a good play :wink:, matched me for performance but my gear changes kept me gaining through the gears.
To keep this one forum topic , the steering wheel in the mk6 looks like theyve robbed it out of the Astra!
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just didnt like any of the other hot hatches out there, looked at the focus, golf, civic, but for the cash i felt the astra was the best buy,(just love the look of the sport hatch) got it with 19" wheels, pearl blue paint, bi-xenon head lights and a few other bits and bobs, just great fun to drive, very rapid. Might only keep it a year or so, still fancy an S3 or even an RS, will be test driving that too.
....The VXR blue looks fabulous! Vauxhall have improved them since the early models. At least the steering wheel suits the VXR whereas the new Mk6 GTI wheel would look more at home in the VXR!
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crappy plastic - you need to take a look in the mk2 Leon!
maybe, but I do not own Leon (and never will)
besides, you could just as well have said "you need to take a look in the Lada" :wink:
Was more referring to the differences between mk1 and mk2 - being in the vag group.
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^I understood what you ment after looking at a mk2 leon :sad:, been a mk1 leon/mk5 GTI/Mk1 GTI SII/Mk1 GTI SI owner :nerd: i was not impressed with the interior plastic quality nearly as bad as my series I GTI. :grin:
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whats the bet there are same/similar issues with the mk6?
e.g water above door gathering
rusting bells & discs?!
Im sorry to disappoint you cookie but the water still pi55es in! Was in Berlin Thurs and Friday this week driving the MK6 and can confirm it is very good! (apart from the waterfall at the first corner! which actually seemed worse than the MK5!)
Drove a 1.4 TSI with the 7 speed DSG and it was very quiet and powerful at the same time. Very impressive. The ride was quite hard although it was running on 18's. Also got a look at a beautiful MK6 GTI :shocked: And it looked amazing in the flesh!! When it drove out in front of me the hairs on the back of my neck stood up and I went cold!! Trust me guys, this car looks the nuts in the metal!! :wink: