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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Wilko2008 on 25 September 2008, 13:01
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I felt so sorry for a person yesterday stopped on the M1 nr Watford by the nasty rozzers. It was a black GTI 08 plate. A colleague passed it and thought it was me - thankfully not.
Hopefully they had only stopped them to say what a great car it was! :wink:
Anyone want to own up to it?
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It was meeeee :grin:
joke it wasnt...im suprised I havent been pulled in mine yet, when I had my 2006 sporthatch Astra I was getting pulled every other day as they said I look too young to have a decent car...now I have the ED30 whats the excuse to pull me?
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Obviously can't keep up with you! :grin:
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Obviously can't keep up with you! :grin:
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Need to watch out for the sneaky unmarked 3.2 V6 Vectras. :smug:
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ive been pulled a hell of alot, about 6 times in the last year, and not once have they commented on my plate :rolleyes:
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I felt so sorry for a person yesterday stopped on the M1 nr Watford by the nasty rozzers. It was a black GTI 08 plate. A colleague passed it and thought it was me - thankfully not.
Hopefully they had only stopped them to say what a great car it was! :wink:
Anyone want to own up to it?
....Why do you describe the Police as "nasty"? The GTI driver had obviously done something he/she shouldn't have done, would be a more likely assumption.
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Might have had a bad experience in the past with a cop. Its a generalisation. Ive had a copper search my car and me for no reason. I dont consider them all to be the same way though. :smiley:
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ive been pulled a hell of alot, about 6 times in the last year, and not once have they commented on my plate :rolleyes:
....Have you learnt anything from being pulled about 6 times?
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ive been pulled a hell of alot, about 6 times in the last year, and not once have they commented on my plate :rolleyes:
....Have you learnt anything from being pulled about 6 times?
You don't really start to learn anything until you are about 28.
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ive been pulled a hell of alot, about 6 times in the last year, and not once have they commented on my plate :rolleyes:
....Have you learnt anything from being pulled about 6 times?
havnt really done anything to lern from!!?? see a young lad in a nice car and pull me over, been pulled 2wice in 6 months in the range rover :sad:
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ive been pulled a hell of alot, about 6 times in the last year, and not once have they commented on my plate :rolleyes:
....Have you learnt anything from being pulled about 6 times?
You don't really start to learn anything until you are about 28.
:grin: :grin: :grin: I like. 6 more years to go before I begin to learn then.
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ive been pulled a hell of alot, about 6 times in the last year, and not once have they commented on my plate :rolleyes:
....Have you learnt anything from being pulled about 6 times?
You don't really start to learn anything until you are about 28.
.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: - Sad but so true in a lot of cases!
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ive been pulled a hell of alot, about 6 times in the last year, and not once have they commented on my plate :rolleyes:
....Have you learnt anything from being pulled about 6 times?
havnt really done anything to lern from!!?? see a young lad in a nice car and pull me over, been pulled 2wice in 6 months in the range rover :sad:
Start smoking a pipe.
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i think id defo get pulled up smoking a pipe :grin: :grin: :rolleyes:
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ive been pulled a hell of alot, about 6 times in the last year, and not once have they commented on my plate :rolleyes:
....Have you learnt anything from being pulled about 6 times?
havnt really done anything to lern from!!?? see a young lad in a nice car and pull me over, been pulled 2wice in 6 months in the range rover :sad:
....So you've been checked out (quite legitimately) for being a young lad driving a Range Rover - 2 times. What about the other 4 times in your GTI? - You previously stated you'd been stopped about 6 times and your illegal plate wasn't mentioned - You don't do the same offence in the Range Rover do you?
Have you not realised or learnt that you were stopped and checked because you probably aren't the registered owner of the Range Rover and, rightly or wrongly, don't look as if you are likely to be?
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Robin is in 'Dad' mode.
Quite right when you consider that one of the biggest killers of teenage girls in Britain was their boyfriends’ bad driving.
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ive been pulled a hell of alot, about 6 times in the last year, and not once have they commented on my plate :rolleyes:
....Have you learnt anything from being pulled about 6 times?
havnt really done anything to lern from!!?? see a young lad in a nice car and pull me over, been pulled 2wice in 6 months in the range rover :sad:
....So you've been checked out (quite legitimately) for being a young lad driving a Range Rover - 2 times. What about the other 4 times in your GTI? - You previously stated you'd been stopped about 6 times and your illegal plate wasn't mentioned - You don't do the same offence in the Range Rover do you?
Have you not realised or learnt that you were stopped and checked because you probably aren't the registered owner of the Range Rover and, rightly or wrongly, don't look as if you are likely to be?
no, ive been pulled 2wice in the range and 6 times in the golf, never once mentioned the numberplate in the golf, and yes each time in the range was because they thought id stolen it :shocked: :sad:
i wouldnt mind as much if they were decent enough to simply say sorry sir afterwards!! but nope, never hurd a officer say sorry :sad:
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Robin is in 'Dad' mode.
Quite right when you consider that one of the biggest killers of teenage girls in Britain was their boyfriends’ bad driving.
really :shocked: :shocked: where did you find that out?? do you have any reference?
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Robin is in 'Dad' mode.
Quite right when you consider that one of the biggest killers of teenage girls in Britain was their boyfriends’ bad driving.
really :shocked: :shocked: where did you find that out?? do you have any reference?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article658869.ece
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thats just an article about some videotape :rolleyes: i thought you had some stats, also that was like 2005-2006, you clearly stated that one of the biggest killers in young girls in the UK is their boyfriends driving? do you have any proof......other than an article written nearly 2 years ago about a video tape :smiley:
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thats just an article about some videotape :rolleyes: i thought you had some stats, also that was like 2005-2006, you clearly stated that one of the biggest killers in young girls in the UK is their boyfriends driving? do you have any proof......other than an article written nearly 2 years ago about a video tape :smiley:
....I don't have any direct stats at hand but I'm confident you'll find that all the insurance companies will confirm that there are more road deaths and serious injuries caused by young male drivers than any other group. Traffic Police and Emergency Services would doubtless also confirm this. Of course elderly drivers are a higher risk too.
It's such a problem that some Forces have arranged very realistic recreations of nasty accidents and invited young drivers to be present. When you are young you tend to think you are both invincible and immortal! The term "boy-racer" isn't for no reason.
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I felt so sorry for a person yesterday stopped on the M1 nr Watford by the nasty rozzers. It was a black GTI 08 plate. A colleague passed it and thought it was me - thankfully not.
Hopefully they had only stopped them to say what a great car it was! :wink:
Anyone want to own up to it?
....Why do you describe the Police as "nasty"? The GTI driver had obviously done something he/she shouldn't have done, would be a more likely assumption.
I agree with RR. You break speed limits at your own risk. And when you've done it you do not whine about how bad coppers are. You are the only one to blame, so be a man about it. I may have lost my license day before yesterday, but I took the risks knowingly.
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Please tell me we are not going into this debate again?? :angry:
Let me throw some spanners here. I have a friend who is 18 years old. His dad used to drive a Gold Opel Astra GTC. Daddy needed to go overseas. The son was left behind and told the kid he could drive the Opel.
A few days into driving the Opel school and back (and I must admit considering the power he has he is extremely responsible and never I repeat never speeds hence why daddy trusted him with the car) he came in saying he had been stopped three times in two days. Told to get out the car and stand against the boot while the traffic officer checked his drivers.
In one week he came and told he had been stopped over 4 times in the Astra. Doing absolutely nothing illegal. He has never been fined and will never be. Red Robin. It seems you are suggesting that just because you are younger (i.e Joes age) in a nice car you should be stopped over and over again?
I think not. Thats very unfair.
I have to agree with Joe. If they want to stop you then go for it. When you are stopped continuosly and treated like dirt then I think it is fair to get a negetive opinion of the traffic cops.
Robin is in 'Dad' mode.
Quite right when you consider that one of the biggest killers of teenage girls in Britain was their boyfriends’ bad driving.
Sorry Egbert but what utter rubbish is this? What about all the girls that:
1. Are stuck on tik, ecstacy and weed which ends up killing them?
2. Drown
3. Are murdered and raped?
I checked the statistics and yes motor vehicle accidents are 39% to blame for death of teens (15 to 19 years old). To claim that those 40% of the deaths were caused by bad driving on behalf of the boyfriend is your opinion which bears no resemblence to the truth. Teenage girls also drive... Teenage girls also get driven over by teenage female drivers. Please make sure you have proof before you make statements containing predujice and bias like that.
t's such a problem that some Forces have arranged very realistic recreations of nasty accidents and invited young drivers to be present. When you are young you tend to think you are both invincible and immortal! The term "boy-racer" isn't for no reason.
Red Robin. I understand that you have a vast experience of life. But please.
I have grandparents. Four sets of them to be exact. And to drive with them is terrifying. Yet driving with my mate in his Opel. My Mate in his Toyota, my mate in his Merc S Class and my other mate inhis MK2 GTI I do not feel unsafe at all. Older people need to get out of the mindset that teenagers/boy racers cannot drive. We have access to far more electronics and our school systems and what we are educated on has changed vastly. We are different to the teenagers of 20 years ago. My school has had ten years without a single road accident that claimed a death.
Old people are more prone to thinking they are better drivers and I honestly consider older people to be the boy racers. Not us. Why? BEcause we have all played Grand Turismo (Just an example) and all know that if you come around that corner at 120 miles per hour you will crash and die. Whereas older people think because they have been driving for over 50 years they are invincible.
If you have proof that most accidents are caused by teenagers then I will gladly shake hands. If Egbert can prove that boys kill girls in cars. Then fairplay- well done. But as far as I am concerned this topic is much like the Open fog grills topic you and TT have been going on about. Its all about your opinion and when opinion is thrown around without proof then I dont see the point in even expressing it.
In my opinion. If you drive like a fool. You get killed. If you drive like a maniac. You get fined. Irrespective of how old you are or what you are driving.
Mike
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Joe, I thought that was going to happen to me, see a young lad in a tidy car but since getting the MK5 (5 months ago) I am yet to get pulled. I got pulled over more times in my POS Clio than the GTI. Im clearly a good boy ;)
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funny since ive had my brown lada ive never been pulled drivin it! and let me tell you thats performance in a can right there!
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funny since ive had my brown lada ive never been pulled drivin it! and let me tell you thats performance in a can right there!
Did yours have a Handbrake cookie??? :laugh:, well ive been in one where the driver said , "here hold this for me" it wasnt attached!!! :laugh:oh and the heater was stuck on HOT and the starter motor had to be hit with a wooden rolling Pin to get it to work!!.
They dont make cars like that anymore!
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funny since ive had my brown lada ive never been pulled drivin it! and let me tell you thats performance in a can right there!
Did yours have a Handbrake cookie??? :laugh:, well ive been in one where the driver said , "here hold this for me" it wasnt attached!!! :laugh:oh and the heater was stuck on HOT and the starter motor had to be hit with a wooden rolling Pin to get it to work!!.
They dont make cars like that anymore!
your right there Phil they dont make em like that anymore....thank god!
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As there was a bit of a discussion about stats that RR was quoting, I was given a study report last week at our IAM comittee meeting about research the IAM Trust has done into young drivers. If you want to find out accurate figures or you just have trouble sleeping you can download it from http://www.iam.org.uk/OneStopCMS/Core/TemplateHandler.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRNODEGUID={BDDB7C16-34E8-4461-8CA6-9E772ECF34F4}&NRORIGINALURL=%2fmotoringtrust%2f&NRCACHEHINT=NoModifyGuest (http://www.iam.org.uk/OneStopCMS/Core/TemplateHandler.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRNODEGUID={BDDB7C16-34E8-4461-8CA6-9E772ECF34F4}&NRORIGINALURL=%2fmotoringtrust%2f&NRCACHEHINT=NoModifyGuest) :nerd:
On the subject of being stopped by the Police I have as a second car a 1989 BMW E30 325i which I use when I feel the need to travel sideways. I've been blatently followed by the police as they think 'Aha, old BMW, must be dodgy' Never (touch wood) been stopped yet though. I always think they must be really dissapointed when they run the plate and it's all legit! I say this bearing in mind my father was a policeman for 30 years (including traffic) and I have a lot to do with them through the IAM.
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Mike - Please understand that I was only generalising - Not ALL teenagers/young people are poor drivers etc - You usually have to generalise in order to discuss something. I will say that, regardless of age, experience of driving contributes a lot imo. You learn from experience and it's mixed with natural skill, spacial awareness, planning, etc etc, in other words what's called Roadcraft.
The perception that some older people have about young drivers isn't helped by those younger drivers who do drive dangerously and isn't it an indisputable fact that there are plenty? This is also why some posts (not all) in the "Cars you've beaten in your GTI" give others such a bad image of this community. I have to question the maturity of those who run this site if they post comments that either encourage it or which tend to make themselves sound cool by such attitudes.
If you are on the road just to impress your mates, your girlfriend, or just to brag - I, for one, have no time for it and will spend far less time on this site, though with regret.
I'm just expressing my opinions.
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Wow i started something here!
The nasty rozzers comment was not really that i think they are nasty but only that they stopped one of our GTI friends. I think most of the police are good guys and have a pretty thankless job. If he/she was doing over the limit then yes, he deserves it really and yes, speed causes accidents and i don't condone it at all. Having said that do we all stick to the speed limits everywhere?
I drive very sensibly around towns, I don't use my mobile, I haven't had points on my license for over 12 years (that is tempting fate!), but....... if the motorway or dual carriageway is clear I do put my foot down. That is why we have the GTI. :evil:
Didn't mean to upset any GTI owning policemen or start a row over driving styles!
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No worries, Wilko :smiley: - We are all just being honest in expressing our opinions. I stick absolutely rigidly to the 20,30,40,50 limits but use my own judgement elsewhere. I'm glad to say that most unmarked Police drivers use their discretion.
It's very rare nowadays to find a Policeman who is rude to you and if they stop you there is always a valid reason. They are trained to do their best to keep you calm. However, if you get snotty with them you'll come off a lot worse.
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K,
I'm 23 I have a clean license and never had an accident, 5 years no claims ( personal) 1 years no claims (company car)... No mean feat seeing as i've been driving in London for 2yrs and managed to avoid the swarm of kamikaze motorcyclists.
The closest i've come to an accident is when I hit a collapsed cornish hedge in a storm in cornwall and stuffed up my front bumper...
I really think young drivers just need to know their limits, ive had the pleasure of driving lots of supercars through dad's garage and I honestly think if you respect the power, and learn that its not what you're doing it's what everyone else is doing on the road. I.E not to go " i dont kno where that car has gone in my blind spot so im just gonna overtake anyway"
The safest place to drive is in the motorways and most accidents happen on A roads, problem with these roads is sometimes they're 60 limits and no way in hell you would do 60 down them, i can imagine someone new to driving would think oh great i can do 60 and then come a croper..
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I stick absolutely rigidly to the 20,30,40,50 limits but use my own judgement elsewhere.
I couldn't agree more! Although, as to why the A13 is a 40 in some sections I have no idea, I seem to cause more hassel driving at 40!
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I have to question the maturity of those who run this site if they post comments that either encourage it or which tend to make themselves sound cool by such attitudes.
I spent some time contemplating a retort to this, that may accurately convey my feelings.
But all I could come up with was BOOBIES BOOBIES BUMS AND WILLIES!
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I have to question the maturity of those who run this site if they post comments that either encourage it or which tend to make themselves sound cool by such attitudes.
I spent some time contemplating a retort to this, that may accurately convey my feelings.
But all I could come up with was BOOBIES BOOBIES BUMS AND WILLIES!
ahem...lol
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I stick absolutely rigidly to the 20,30,40,50 limits but use my own judgement elsewhere.
I couldn't agree more! Although, as to why the A13 is a 40 in some sections I have no idea, I seem to cause more hassel driving at 40!
I'm with you there Wob, use the A13 everyday, and people just don't adhere to speed limits and then brake hard before all of the speed cameras. It would be safer imo if the authorities would change these sort of 3-lane A-roads to maybe national speed limit rather than have it at 40 and stick a camera every 1/2 mile!
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Its there attitude that winds me up some of em think they are nuts and can speak to you like abit of sh#t but they dont like it when you talk back to em like it or they just come out with ill nick ya what for arguing my point. I have met a couple who are okbut most of em have been knobs.
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Its there attitude that winds me up some of em think they are nuts and can speak to you like abit of sh#t but they dont like it when you talk back to em like it or they just come out with ill nick ya what for arguing my point. I have met a couple who are okbut most of em have been knobs.
....If the Police go as far as stopping you it's invariably for one (or more) of these reasons : -
1 - Your driving - which includes behaviour and/or speed.
2 - The state of your car raises a question of safety or legality.
3 - To check your car/driver/insurance etc details. Might be ANPR generated.
In other words, they will 999 times out of 1,000 be totally justified in stopping you. If you are displaying the same sort of attitude towards them as the tone of your posted words, it shouldn't surprise you how you get treated in response.
And so, regarding the "Poor Bloke" subject of this thread, I don't care what he was driving - He'll have been stopped for good reason, of that there can be very little doubt - Even if it was only to inform him a door wasn't properly closed.
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I have to question the maturity of those who run this site if they post comments that either encourage it or which tend to make themselves sound cool by such attitudes.
I spent some time contemplating a retort to this, that may accurately convey my feelings.
But all I could come up with was BOOBIES BOOBIES BUMS AND WILLIES!
Topher your a legend best post of the entire thread by a country mile. :grin:
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A country mile having been driven at the correct speed limit and very sensibly of course!
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A country mile having been driven at the correct speed limit and very sensibly of course!
with an happy smile (which i know topher has a perminant smile) :wink:
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Let me throw some spanners here. I have a friend who is 18 years old. His dad used to drive a Gold Opel Astra GTC. Daddy needed to go overseas. The son was left behind and told the kid he could drive the Opel.
A few days into driving the Opel school and back (and I must admit considering the power he has he is extremely responsible and never I repeat never speeds hence why daddy trusted him with the car) he came in saying he had been stopped three times in two days. Told to get out the car and stand against the boot while the traffic officer checked his drivers.
In one week he came and told he had been stopped over 4 times in the Astra. Doing absolutely nothing illegal. He has never been fined and will never be. Red Robin. It seems you are suggesting that just because you are younger (i.e Joes age) in a nice car you should be stopped over and over again?
I think not. Thats very unfair.
Its perfectly fair. If your not 'fitting' for the car, it may be stolen, uninsured, untaxed etc etc. I have no quarrel with being randomly pulled over, i would hope if some little scrote knicked my car he too would get randomly pulled over, i would get my motor back and he would get a major wrist slap.
I have to agree with Joe. If they want to stop you then go for it. When you are stopped continuosly and treated like dirt then I think it is fair to get a negetive opinion of the traffic cops.
see above :rolleyes:
Older people need to get out of the mindset that teenagers/boy racers cannot drive. We have access to far more electronics and our school systems and what we are educated on has changed vastly. We are different to the teenagers of 20 years ago. My school has had ten years without a single road accident that claimed a death.
rubbish, 99% of the time i see a car hooning down my road its some little 17 year old in his clio thinking he or shes the man. I know how i was when i was 17, thought nothing could touch me in my sh!tty mk4 escort.
Old people are more prone to thinking they are better drivers and I honestly consider older people to be the boy racers. Not us. Why? BEcause we have all played Grand Turismo (Just an example) and all know that if you come around that corner at 120 miles per hour you will crash and die. Whereas older people think because they have been driving for over 50 years they are invincible.
Funniest statement of the year!!! :grin: :grin: :laugh:
Yeah, i learned on gt4 where when i crash my car just bounces back onto the road and continues to scream off at 100mph.
Grand theft auto also exists, so its definitely right to go car jacking is it?
If you have proof that most accidents are caused by teenagers then I will gladly shake hands.
Pretty much every road safety statistic or survey, ever, prooves this :rolleyes:
oh yeah, im 21 btw, hardly a road safety book toting granddad :wink:
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^^^^^^^Wise words MR white for one so young. :smiley:
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A country mile having been driven at the correct speed limit and very sensibly of course!
with an happy smile (which i know topher has a perminant smile) :wink:
scandalous lies, I haven't smiled since 1982.. and that was just because I was straining to fill my nappy.
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Obviously can't keep up with you! :grin:
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Need to watch out for the sneaky unmarked 3.2 V6 Vectras. :smug:
Yes you do!! Drove back 200miles from down south yesterday... got to my home stretch yesterday at about 1am (luckily I was taking it easy!) Had one of those coppa vectras come right up behind me.. tailgating me for a good 2miles!! Jacka$$!
Then overtook me by cutting across and narrowly avoiding an on coming car... Its kn0b coppers like this that are going to tempt me to visit HPA :angry:
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whats HPA :embarassed:
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Obviously can't keep up with you! :grin:
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Need to watch out for the sneaky unmarked 3.2 V6 Vectras. :smug:
Its kn0b coppers like this that are going to tempt me to visit HPA :angry:
But your then Risking getting public transport for a year or so if you do r32uk. :lipsrsealed:
Best cool your temper or you could regret it bigtime :smiley:
I know they can appear to antaganise people, but i expect they were sticking close behind you running checks on their ANPR database to check its you behind the wheel of a sort after car.
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whats HPA :embarassed:
they put something r32 owners arent used too called "a turbo conversion"
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Obviously can't keep up with you! :grin:
:grin: :grin:
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Need to watch out for the sneaky unmarked 3.2 V6 Vectras. :smug:
Its kn0b coppers like this that are going to tempt me to visit HPA :angry:
But your then Risking getting public transport for a year or so if you do r32uk. :lipsrsealed:
Best cool your temper or you could regret it bigtime :smiley:
I know they can appear to antaganise people, but i expect they were sticking close behind you running checks on their NPR database to check its you behind the wheel of a sort after car.
Yeah your probaly right Phil. But the cutting across me was just totally uncalled for... and the worst bit is that he was looking at me whilst he over too!!
Conducting a retinal scan no doubt! :huh:
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Normal practice is to come up close to check your plate for ANPR and then drop back to text book distance and position. Literally continuous tailgating is not on!! Neither is cutting in unless it's to slow or stop you.
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Normal practice is to come up close to check your plate for ANPR and then drop back to text book distance and position. Literally continuous tailgating is not on!! Neither is cutting in unless it's to slow or stop you.
There is close.. and then there is tailgating. Its 1am for ffs! I am no more than 2miles from my house to which the car is registered, and driving at the speed limit. If I wasnt so tired from the drive I would have noted his plate and put in a complaint.
In fact if I had not noticed him approaching the RA from which he started following me I probably would have put my foot down, as I dont usually take too kindly to people driving soo close. But the overtake would have no doubt have ended in a head-on for him if I hadnt eased off..