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Title: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: Big__Al on 28 August 2008, 22:30
Hi Folks,

I'm new to the site but currently looking to get myself a mk4 1.8 T GTI.

Long story short I'm looking for any advise, tips or just any info you could give me with regards to things to look out for when buying one of these.

Today I've found one locally 1999 T reg, 106k miles, full VW service history and revo chipped up to 210bhp (approx). From the photo's I've been sent the bodywork looks pretty clean and generally well looked after.

I'm not all that technically minded myself so was hoping you could help me out with what to look out for when I go to view the car ie essential work that really ought to have been done to a car of this age/mileage and also anythng that should have been done in the way of uprating the car to deal with the additional power provided by the chip?

I'm going along with my brother who lives and breathes anything mechanical but as I say your knowledgeable input from your experiences would be invaluable so as we have some idea of what to look out for when we go to see it.

Cheers,

Al
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: Rhyso on 28 August 2008, 22:33
welcome Al

i'd suggest you read through this section
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?board=58.0

any questions after you've read that we'll do our best to answer  :smiley:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: richw911 on 28 August 2008, 22:36
Hello and welcome

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=38557.0

Doubt it will be 210bhp with an early engine TBH prob about 190 - 200 BHP


http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=40194.0  :smiley:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: bobbarley on 28 August 2008, 22:42
Indeed, I had my AGU re-mapped, and was told I'd be getting around 195bhp, mines a 199 model too.  Hope it's a great car :)
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: Big__Al on 28 August 2008, 23:01
Thanks for the quick responses, much appreciated  :grin:

Gonna have a look through those links and no doubt I'll be back soon with some dumbass questions so be warned.

I'm not overly bothered about the power of the car so long as it runs well and has a bit of a kick when I put the foot down...just think they're great lookin cars.

Thanks again guys
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: richw911 on 28 August 2008, 23:04
Thanks for the quick responses, much appreciated  :grin:

Gonna have a look through those links and no doubt I'll be back soon with some dumbass questions so be warned.

I'm not overly bothered about the power of the car so long as it runs well and has a bit of a kick when I put the foot down...just think they're great lookin cars.

Thanks again guys

Indeed and still look great 10 years on  :shocked: No probs ask away we always try to help out  :wink:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: ben1.8T on 29 August 2008, 09:01
Was speaking to the lads at AMD Tuning in Thurrock yesterday as im also currently looking for a 20V and they reccomend going for a car from 2001 onwards if you have got the cash because they have better ECU's and you can get more power from them.

Hope this helps mate.  :cool:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: T_J_G on 29 August 2008, 13:05
Was speaking to the lads at AMD Tuning in Thurrock yesterday as im also currently looking for a 20V and they reccomend going for a car from 2001 onwards if you have got the cash because they have better ECU's and you can get more power from them.

Hope this helps mate.  :cool:

2000 onwards. Look for an AUM if you're only going to have a remap.
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 29 August 2008, 13:26
they reccomend going for a car from 2001 onwards if you have got the cash because they have better ECU's

:huh:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: T_J_G on 29 August 2008, 13:47
they reccomend going for a car from 2001 onwards if you have got the cash because they have better ECU's

:huh:

referring to the AUM that can be remapped to higher BHP than the others?
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 29 August 2008, 13:58
they reccomend going for a car from 2001 onwards if you have got the cash because they have better ECU's

:huh:

referring to the AUM that can be remapped to higher BHP than the others?

Not down to the ECU tho, is it!  :wink:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: the_stink on 29 August 2008, 14:26
so mine is on a 02'plate what engine code would that be or where can i find this? take it re mapped be looking at around 200?
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: (shakey) on 29 August 2008, 14:51
so mine is on a 02'plate what engine code would that be or where can i find this? take it re mapped be looking at around 200?

its on the top of the engine just to the left aum i think urs will b.
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: T_J_G on 29 August 2008, 15:38
they reccomend going for a car from 2001 onwards if you have got the cash because they have better ECU's

:huh:

referring to the AUM that can be remapped to higher BHP than the others?

Not down to the ECU tho, is it!  :wink:

That's a good point actually. Never thought of it that way.
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: RTechUK on 29 August 2008, 16:33
so mine is on a 02'plate what engine code would that be or where can i find this? take it re mapped be looking at around 200?

Your engine will be the AUM with KO3s wHich should have the 06A906032HJ ECU. This ecu and engine combintation can be remapped to 240bhp max out using the stock and incectors and turbo.  A good every day use remap will give you around 210bhp to 220bhp.

 

Nick
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: the_stink on 29 August 2008, 16:36
wow, well ill check what engine code it is, how can i check if it is defo a KO3s?
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: Rhyso on 29 August 2008, 16:37
wow, well ill check what engine code it is, how can i check if it is defo a KO3s?

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=40194.0
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: the_stink on 29 August 2008, 16:40
nice ill have a read, i know once i fit my DSG intake, new DV, new exhuast (prob cat back for now) and bigger brakes then get a remap it will be more fun, was going to say fun, what am i on about its always fun!!  :evil:

from personal experience or doing your job nick, would you advise to get those mods done first, i assume with them i will see more BHP straight away wher as if added after the BHP will obviously change 

just noticed all the 'stig' sigs lol i think mine was 'some say he can clear a room with one armpit, and that he is timmy mallets stunt double, all we know is hes call the Stink'
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: the_stink on 29 August 2008, 16:59
ive read the thread very helpfull, i can see that soem of the aug engines didnt have the K03s just K03 any ideas how to tell? just be interesting to know  :grin:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: RTechUK on 29 August 2008, 21:04
Hello,

The AGU and ARZ had the Ko3 turbo and the AUM and AUQ have got the VVT & K03S turbo.

You can compliment the remap with tuning mods at a later date it you want, which should free the mid range power up.
But if you put the tuning mod on the car prior to the remap then we can fine tune and adjust the remap and optimize the remap to make the most of your tuning mods which should give a bit more bhp & torque comapred to a generic remap.

New product comming soon. The R-Tech Fusion Remap. A Full Custom Remap to match the unique running characteristics of you engine, plus the code will be edited and tested to meet all your tuning modifications which will allow for fully optomized engine performance. And for as long as you own the car you can have the car re-mapped / tweaked for "free" (just pay for rolling road time around £35-£60 max) to optimize any future tuning enhancements that you might want to add. This will be for all VAG engines year 2000 onwards.
The Fusion remap can be carried out on our Dynocom rolling road or we can offer it as a mobile solution, where we will road test your car with live multi channel data logging, which will be analyzed so we can custom edit your remap time after time. so the end result is a fully customised remap which has fully optomize your engine and tuning addons. Waste of money if you car is fully standard and your not planning on ant extra tuning part. But a brilliant remap solution if your car is a tuning money pit 

Nick
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: bobbarley on 29 August 2008, 21:06
Discriminating on us 1999 mk4 drivers  :cry:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: RTechUK on 29 August 2008, 21:22
Discriminating on us 1999 mk4 drivers  :cry:

I can offer a Fusion to the AGU owners, but i dont want to promote it  too much yet, as the chip will have to come in and out a few times to get the remap right which can be a pain in the back side when remapping mobile, (plus it would wear out my new lynx can) It is not a problem to do it on the rolling road as we will put another ECU in the car without the map chip fitted, instead the ecu will be linked direct to a PC via a loom of wires which will allow real time emulations. The PC will do the job of the flash chip
 The Bosch ecu PCBs dont like the chip to come in and out too many times as it can loosen the solder pads with the constant heating and cooling. We used to use chip in Psop44 carriers so the chip can clip in and out, but this also caused hassle with dry joints.  But good news, I am in talks with Frieling-Racing who make the tool for the Custom Code Boys, The tool will allow me to write to the AGU ecu via OBD, the only down fall with the tool is the price tag and it cannot read the AGU ecus.

Nick
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: Rhyso on 29 August 2008, 21:24
plus it would wear out my new lynx can

you have a NEW Lynx can?  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: GTi-Matt on 29 August 2008, 21:25
plus it would wear out my new lynx can

you have a NEW Lynx can?  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

africa this time!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: RTechUK on 29 August 2008, 21:29
(http://www.dk.pg.com/imagebank/Fusion%20Foam%20Tough_RGB_72.jpg)

 :grin:

Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: GTi-Matt on 29 August 2008, 21:30
(http://www.dk.pg.com/imagebank/Fusion%20Foam%20Tough_RGB_72.jpg)

 :grin:



my what a big.........................................................................can u have  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: richw911 on 29 August 2008, 21:33
 lol You should use a can of brut  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Newbie Seeking Advise on Mk4 1.8 T GTI 210BHP
Post by: GTi-Matt on 29 August 2008, 21:35
lol You should use a can of brut  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

lol @ brut, that stuff used to burn!!!! :angry: :angry: