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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Dan34 on 27 August 2008, 20:06
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As title sugest are these bulbs any good im tempted to buy them whats your opinion?
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Not legal. Don't do it.
Replace your bulbs with posh standard wattage bulbs (Philips or similar) and fit a relay kit to ensure the bulbs get the full 12-13V and perform as they should.
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Not legal. Don't do it.
Replace your bulbs with posh standard wattage bulbs (Philips or similar) and fit a relay kit to ensure the bulbs get the full 12-13V and perform as they should.
right oh!
Do you mean these sort of things are alrite to use?
http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/h4-bulbs-c-255.html (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/h4-bulbs-c-255.html)
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Not legal. Don't do it.
Replace your bulbs with posh standard wattage bulbs (Philips or similar) and fit a relay kit to ensure the bulbs get the full 12-13V and perform as they should.
right oh!
Do you mean these sort of things are alrite to use?
http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/h4-bulbs-c-255.html (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/h4-bulbs-c-255.html)
Yep, The philips and osram one have both received some goods reviews in the MK5 section in the past.
I use the Philips X-treme power sidelight bulbs along side the Bi-xenon's as they give a much cleaner white light.
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I don't think blue tints are strictly legal, but those Nightbreakers would be legal, provided they're within the specified wattage for full and dip beams.
I was thinking of HIDs which are thoroughly not legal - 'normal' bulbs are less of an issue.
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cheers for our help :smiley:
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Go for the orsam nightbreakers....they are 90% light where as the philips ones are "only" 80%
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The blue ones are legal as they only look blue (as in the bulb) I have blue sidelights but when on they're bright white.
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i tried a whole host of bulbs and non make much of a difference tbh, you think they have but its all in the head, just get a hid kit and you will then realise just how crap normal bulbs are....
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I agree kells.
have had a lot of the other bulbs, and they didnt last very long and didnt produce a lot more light, just looked a different colour. So im going down the HID route too.
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just get a hid kit
No, don't. HID kits are not legal and only someone spectacularly selfish who has a disregard for other road users would fit them.
They are not designed for the lenses in your headlights and are highly likely to dazzle oncoming drivers.
Have those suggesting them fitted a relay kit to their cars before fitting illegal headlights?
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just get a hid kit
No, don't. HID kits are not legal and only someone spectacularly selfish who has a disregard for other road users would fit them.
They are not designed for the lenses in your headlights and are highly likely to dazzle oncoming drivers.
Have those suggesting them fitted a relay kit to their cars before fitting illegal headlights?
It's all a bit of a grey area, here the offical Dept for Transport details on HID kits - http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps
HTH. :smiley:
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just get a hid kit
No, don't. HID kits are not legal and only someone spectacularly selfish who has a disregard for other road users would fit them.
They are not designed for the lenses in your headlights and are highly likely to dazzle oncoming drivers.
Have those suggesting them fitted a relay kit to their cars before fitting illegal headlights?
yes i have fitted a relay, and the hids have their own direct power feed
and my lenses have projector lights
and it passed its MOT last month with them fitted without any issues
oh and never had no complaints or flashes of other road users
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The Xenon blue tint bulbs do make the road look whiter which imo is better than yellow as you can see the road more clearly.
From the link by SteveP:
If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps.
Therefore if you buy the correct kit, it is not illegal.
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Oh and if you keep reading you need either self-levelling suspension or self-levelling headlights.
And headlight washers.
And the projector lenses need to be E-marked.
Stilll on the right side of the law?
Just cos it's got an MOT doesn't mean it's legal. It means it's passed an MOT test.
You could weld 2' long razor-sharp spikes to your bumper and it would pass an MOT as the spikes weren't sharp due to corrosion or damage.
An MOT doesn't mean it's legal under construction and use law.
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You could weld 2' long razor-sharp spikes to your bumper and it would pass an MOT as the spikes weren't sharp due to corrosion or damage.
An MOT doesn't mean it's legal under construction and use law.
think you would find it would fail if you had spikes sticking out the front or rear, sure theirs something in the mot about how far things hand out (including the exhaust)
my lenses are E marked, and if its passed the mot with them fitted then its legal and goood enough for me, never had no issues from the police or anyone, all good for me so i cant complain
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Therefore if you buy the correct kit, it is not illegal.
Correct kit meaning all those extra bits to make it legal. :wink:
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hahaha
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It speaks volumes that those attracted to them also seem to be attracted to Golf3 8V GTIs.
It's your eyes that need sorting out, not the lights.
:grin:
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Well i was only asking about bulbs but this thread has spirald into an argument :cry:
Im not sure what to buy now either
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It speaks volumes that those attracted to them also seem to be attracted to Golf3 8V GTIs.
It's your eyes that need sorting out, not the lights.
:grin:
says the guy riding round in a pile of crap that looks like it belongs in a breakers yard... :grin: :grin: :grin:
oh and the 3 wont be a 8v for too long either, diy 20vt conversion on the cards..
but please, slag the car off all you like if it makes you feel better, i find it an amusing read :grin: :grin: :grin:
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It speaks volumes that those attracted to them also seem to be attracted to Golf3 8V GTIs.
It's your eyes that need sorting out, not the lights.
:grin:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
DH you do make me laugh :grin:
Im not sure what to buy now either
Uprated loom and bulbs. Cheap. Legal. Sorted. :afro:
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Im not sure what to buy now either
Uprated loom and bulbs. Cheap. Legal. Sorted. :afro:
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Yeah seems my best bet as this whole HID conversion thing got a bit out of hand dont know what to think about them now lol
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Yeah seems my best bet as this whole HID conversion thing got a bit out of hand dont know what to think about them now lol
Do what you want it's your car, but think about other road users at the same time :afro:
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says the guy riding round in a pile of crap that looks like it belongs in a breakers yard.
What this?
(http://diamondhell.com/images/rsgallery/original/P7050005S.jpg)
You must have some dead posh breakers yards round your way.
Maybe it's one of my other cars you're referring to. This one?
(http://diamondhell.com/images/rsgallery/original/IMG_0423.jpg)
then you've missed the point, rather.
Much like a G3 8V GTI.
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yeah the second car/thing/scrapper/whatever
and the other is nothing to shout about either, thought you were gonna come back at me with something special, bit of a let down that.... :lipsrsealed:
ah well, cant win em all :grin:
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i have tried loads of different "bright white" bulbs, they all look yellow still. Although i havent got philips/ring ones. I was being cheap. haha.
hid kit would be cool but i just want my headlights to look white!!!
haha, love this (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/chuff69/popcorn.gif) perfect pic, made me literally LOL!
DH always seems to get himself into arguements :laugh:
LL ;)
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i feel we have this arguement every day.
Either way, me and kells will ridin in our slick low mk3's with HIDS when we see you a mile off :P
Now back to the list of things not to forget tomo for ed38
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and the other is nothing to shout about either
Actually it is (and I doubt you'd complain if it was on the driveway of your house):
(http://diamondhell.com/images/rsgallery/original/P7050010S.jpg)
That's an Audi A6 Quattro drivetrain underneath.
And the Golf's a third car.
Does the LazyThingy have a relay kit fitted? If not, must try harder, rather than just spending money on something when you're putting out too few volts to make the bulbs effective.
Since when has any G3 been 'slick'?
They're just lardy and adding tat like HIDs to them won't make it any better.
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lol. Its so slick you cant see its slick. Thats your problem. If you had HID's you could see its slick.
So back on topic. Better bulbs or hids. depends on budget, and if you want to dice with police, but i doubt you will get hassle.
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did you mean has mine got a relay for the hids?? if thats what you meant (arsey comments aside) then yes i have fitted a relay for the hids. i am pretty handy with electronics.
and im not a fan of the passat at all, 4 motion or not, nothing to shout about in my opinion, my money would go elsewhere, although i agree i wouldnt complain if it was on my drive (for free that is) so i could sell it on and buy something with a bit more style.
what bhp is that, 140??? (seriously, what bhp) Hmmmmm bet that sets the road on fire the big thing it is (lardy??)
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i'd have an s3 on my drive!!!!! 265bhp, 2.0 turbo hmmmmmmmm!!!!!
Relay?!? i dont know what it is but if it makes them look white!
but seriously mk3's are slick. mk2's are slick too, but not like a mk3.
i wouldnt get a hid kit, basically cause of money, but come on - they are v. cool!
just upgrade bulbs should do it. Anyone know if the ring/philips ones look white? the 80/90% that is. tried some ice blue bright white ones and osram ones, just look the same. they are slightly brighter, but still look yellow!! I NEED the xenon look :laugh:
LL ;)
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did you mean has mine got a relay for the hids?
No, did you try bulbs and a relay kit before fitting illegal headlights.
Relay?!? i dont know what it is but if it makes them look white!
oooh, you're proper crazy you, aren't you?
But seriously, G3s suck. Big, heavy sucky, ugly, rusty rubbish.
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remember this word, and then stop your bickering!!!
SLICK MK3!
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did you mean has mine got a relay for the hids?
No, did you try bulbs and a relay kit before fitting illegal headlights.
Relay?!? i dont know what it is but if it makes them look white!
oooh, you're proper crazy you, aren't you?
But seriously, G3s suck. Big, heavy sucky, ugly, rusty rubbish.
yes i did try it, made no difference, mk 3's aint like the mk 2.. (i do know i had a mk2 16v in 1996!)
and you didnt answer my question about the output of your barge?? heavy ?? lol
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Nothing wrong with mk3's, sure they might be heavier and slower than mk2's, but they have more comfort and imo are better for day to day use. Oh and with the right choosen mods can and do look better than mk2's. (imo).
As for xenons i was thinking of getting some and aslong as they pass an mot i can't see a problem. If they are illegal then yeh you run the risk of getting pulled but if your willing to take that risk then thats the individuals choice.
Iwas being followed buy one of the latest bmw m3's yesterday and his xenon's were blinding me so even factory fit xenons can be abit to bright.
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did you mean has mine got a relay for the hids?
No, did you try bulbs and a relay kit before fitting illegal headlights.
Relay?!? i dont know what it is but if it makes them look white!
oooh, you're proper crazy you, aren't you?
But seriously, G3s suck. Big, heavy sucky, ugly, rusty rubbish.
wtf?!?! i ask for help and this the reply i get m8. Cheers, very helpful.
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did you mean has mine got a relay for the hids?
No, did you try bulbs and a relay kit before fitting illegal headlights.
Relay?!? i dont know what it is but if it makes them look white!
oooh, you're proper crazy you, aren't you?
But seriously, G3s suck. Big, heavy sucky, ugly, rusty rubbish.
wtf?!?! i ask for help and this the reply i get m8. Cheers, very helpful.
Would worry LL jealous of our colour coded butes! lol
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While we are on this subject/argument whats the difference between H1,H3,H4,H7 and what does it mean?
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it is the connection on the back of the bulb i think.
mine is h4, which has three prongs:
looks like this I_I
color code ftw.
LL ;)
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it is the connection on the back of the bulb i think.
mine is h4, which has three prongs:
looks like this I_I
color code ftw.
LL ;)
Ta LL, colour coded anything else lately?
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done all my handles now and thinking about getting dtm mirrors and badgeless grill and color coding them. Ohh and going to color code the lower vents i got from boredwelshlad. My spraying is pretty crap, so the badges and handles arent great but from a distance looks color coded! Its all good practice for when the 16VT comes along.
LL ;)
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done all my handles now and thinking about getting dtm mirrors and badgeless grill and color coding them. Ohh and going to color code the lower vents i got from boredwelshlad. My spraying is pretty crap, so the badges and handles arent great but from a distance looks color coded! Its all good practice for when the 16VT comes along.
LL ;)
nice one ive just finished painting my lower vents got them on the car now look pretty good will get pics up soon.
U going to ed38?
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dunno probs not, got loads to do and plan out and need to save money for new project.....
LL ;)
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ahhh fair enough always next year....whats your next project then??? :smiley:
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16VT hopefully, thats a mk3 2.0 16v turbo. Starting to plan it now, looking expensive. haha. could change though, as plans always do, but it looks as though it is going this way. There are probs better ways, but a mk3 16VT is just too cool to resist :cool: :grin:
LL ;)
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sounds like a good plan to me! dunno what i want for me next car prob another mk3, Gti 8v possibly 16v if i can afford insurance!
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i wont be completely the project until end of next year, when i my insurance should go down a bit. I will need to pull some strings to get some cheaper insurance, will probs go with HIC.
LL ;)