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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: dannymc on 06 August 2008, 14:50
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Seem to remember seeing redrobin's car on 17's with Ap brakes however......... Ap don't list a kit for 17's !? Any ideas as really want AP's as I get great discount on them
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RR's car sits on 18" Monza II's. I don't think he has ever had 17's on :undecided:
AP's + great discount = group buy!!
Although I don't need an upgrade (see sig :wink:)
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Seem to remember seeing redrobin's car on 17's with Ap brakes however......... Ap don't list a kit for 17's !? Any ideas as really want AP's as I get great discount on them
Robin took his car to AP during the BBK development with his 17" rims on to see if the kit would fit and it did... :smiley:
There are photos somewhere on the tyresmoke gti forums so do a search there.
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Seem to remember seeing redrobin's car on 17's with Ap brakes however......... Ap don't list a kit for 17's !? Any ideas as really want AP's as I get great discount on them
Robin took his car to AP during the BBK development with his 17" rims on to see if the kit would fit and it did... :smiley:
There are photos somewhere on the tyresmoke gti forums so do a search there.
....Correct :smiley:
Here are some pics : -
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_Brake_17s_1.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_Brake2.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/OEM_Brake1.jpg)
Be aware that whichever size Monza you have, the steel spare wheel will not fit over the AP's. The workaround is to swop around so your steel spare is on a rear wheel.
I cannot praise the AP brakes enough! Sometimes a little noisy but faultless in their stopping power and reliability.
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when you say noisy, in what way are they noisy ?
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....I might get a couple of days when they squeak and I've had an instance when an inner backplate (a GTI component) was rubbing on very tight cornering but it was easily pulled out of the way. Absolutely nothing worth being bothered about imo.
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Thanks RR ! Do you know what the kit number is that you have ? I know they'll be awesome as have a set of AP's on my E46 M3 and they never fade and haul it down from ridiculous speeds wihout any effort at all.
Do you have any problems with wheel weights catching the caliper when on the 17's ?
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Hi Danny - I haven't actually run the Monza 17's over the AP's yet - We just fitted them while on the ramp to check fit. I have a close relationship with AP so can find out for you - Yes/No?
Kit # is: CP5200-1056 (front).
HTH
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Hi Danny - I haven't actually run the Monza 17's over the AP's yet - We just fitted them while on the ramp to check fit. I have a close relationship with AP so can find out for you - Yes/No?
Kit # is: CP5200-1056 (front).
HTH
Is that the kit # for the 4 pot or 6 pot?
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Hi RR, thanks for that - yeah if you can find out that would be great - I know on their website they state 18 or 19's only but the ones I had on my M3 where supposed to only fit 19's and I ran them on 18's
cheers
danny
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....4-pot (Sorry, forgot to say). 6-pot considered overkill on the Golf weight of car. VW Racing also independently advised that AP's 4-pots were absolutely fine even for track use. Cheaper on brake pads too!
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Quick question, RR
Is the colour coat of the AP caliper more resiliant to heat + brake dust? My stock front calipers are looking very tired after a few track days....
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Quick question, RR
Is the colour coat of the AP caliper more resiliant to heat + brake dust? My stock front calipers are looking very tired after a few track days....
....I haven't tracked mine but a good friend has tracked his with the same AP's and not had any issues. Another factor is the fact that AP's BBK uses a different pad (Ferodo DS2500) and also a disc with grooves. The AP calipers being a closer fit are tricky to access for cleaning unless you either roll the car or remove the wheel.
I haven't had time to contact AP yet but will add this question later today and report when I know.
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6-pot considered overkill on the Golf weight of car.
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :rolleyes: :wink: :cool: :smiley:
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6-pot considered overkill on the Golf weight of car.
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :rolleyes: :wink: :cool: :smiley:
....I best reword that to: "AP Racing's 6-pot considered overkill on the Golf weight of car." :wink:
Mind you, I don't carry half-a-ton of sound gear permanently installed in my boot! :evil:
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Mind you, I don't carry half-a-ton of sound gear permanently installed in my boot! :evil:
It's all about weight distribution Robin :wink: :grin:
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I'm still trying to find a guide to remove the front and rear bells/disks, anyone know where to find one? Tried search but no joy?
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have you tried the Haynes manuals for the Golf/GTI? Reasonably priced as well.
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have you tried the Haynes manuals for the Golf/GTI? Reasonably priced as well.
Good Point Bobo, thanks. I'll order one now as there's a few other things I need to do while I'm at it.
I'll try and find an electronic version and post it up somewhere for us to all use (cough) if its legal...!
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Be aware that whichever size Monza you have, the steel spare wheel will not fit over the AP's.
If you have the factory fitted 18" Monza IIs, then you also get an 18" ET-matched spare - so it should fit. :nerd:
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have you tried the Haynes manuals for the Golf/GTI? Reasonably priced as well.
It's shyte - typical Haynes crap, often omitting some important points, and blatantly instructing to use petroleum based copper grease on rubber brake components. :angry:
Try this linky for official factory manuals - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324
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have you tried the Haynes manuals for the Golf/GTI? Reasonably priced as well.
It's shyte - typical Haynes crap, often omitting some important points, and blatantly instructing to use petroleum based copper grease on rubber brake components. :angry:
Try this linky for official factory manuals - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324
Hi TT,
Have you tried looking into those links recently?
They don't give the manuals any more :sad: :cry:
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Be aware that whichever size Monza you have, the steel spare wheel will not fit over the AP's.
If you have the factory fitted 18" Monza IIs, then you also get an 18" ET-matched spare - so it should fit. :nerd:
....Good point, but my GTI came with factory fitted Monza 17's.
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have you tried the Haynes manuals for the Golf/GTI? Reasonably priced as well.
It's shyte - typical Haynes crap, often omitting some important points, and blatantly instructing to use petroleum based copper grease on rubber brake components. :angry:
Try this linky for official factory manuals - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324
Hi TT,
Have you tried looking into those links recently?
They don't give the manuals any more :sad: :cry:
They still work fine - just downloaded a couple of test ones just now! I bet you are using FirePox! :sick:
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Be aware that whichever size Monza you have, the steel spare wheel will not fit over the AP's.
If you have the factory fitted 18" Monza IIs, then you also get an 18" ET-matched spare - so it should fit. :nerd:
....Good point, but my GTI came with factory fitted Monza 17's.
OK, so does that mean your space saver is also a 17" ??
Righty, just found the part number for the 18" space saver - 1K0 601 027 B - for a 3.5Jx18H2 ET25.5 steel space saver. The correct tyre is a T125/70 R18 99M.
Edit: and the larger tool holder - 8P0 012 109 E
HTH
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OK, so does that mean your space saver is also a 17" ??
Righty, just found the part number for the 18" space saver - 1K0 601 027 B - for a 3.5Jx18H2 ET25.5 steel space saver. The correct tyre is a T125/70 R18 99M.
Edit: and the larger tool holder - 8P0 012 109 E
HTH
....I've no idea what my space saver is. I'll have to check it. Useful part # info :smiley:
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OK, so does that mean your space saver is also a 17" ??
Righty, just found the part number for the 18" space saver - 1K0 601 027 B - for a 3.5Jx18H2 ET25.5 steel space saver. The correct tyre is a T125/70 R18 99M.
Edit: and the larger tool holder - 8P0 012 109 E
HTH
....I've no idea what my space saver is. I'll have to check it. Useful part # info :smiley:
Have you checked it yet? :tongue:
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OK, so does that mean your space saver is also a 17" ??
Righty, just found the part number for the 18" space saver - 1K0 601 027 B - for a 3.5Jx18H2 ET25.5 steel space saver. The correct tyre is a T125/70 R18 99M.
Edit: and the larger tool holder - 8P0 012 109 E
HTH
....I've no idea what my space saver is. I'll have to check it. Useful part # info :smiley:
Have you checked it yet? :tongue:
....Nope - Car is in the garage (tight fit, no room) and it's raining horizontally!
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OK, so does that mean your space saver is also a 17" ??
Righty, just found the part number for the 18" space saver - 1K0 601 027 B - for a 3.5Jx18H2 ET25.5 steel space saver. The correct tyre is a T125/70 R18 99M.
Edit: and the larger tool holder - 8P0 012 109 E
HTH
....I've no idea what my space saver is. I'll have to check it. Useful part # info :smiley:
Have you checked it yet? :tongue:
....Nope - Car is in the garage (tight fit, no room) and it's raining horizontally!
It's dry and sunny outside Teutonic Towers today - any better your neck of the woods?
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OK, so does that mean your space saver is also a 17" ??
Righty, just found the part number for the 18" space saver - 1K0 601 027 B - for a 3.5Jx18H2 ET25.5 steel space saver. The correct tyre is a T125/70 R18 99M.
Edit: and the larger tool holder - 8P0 012 109 E
HTH
....I've no idea what my space saver is. I'll have to check it. Useful part # info :smiley:
Have you checked it yet? :tongue:
....Nope - Car is in the garage (tight fit, no room) and it's raining horizontally!
It's dry and sunny outside Teutonic Towers today - any better your neck of the woods?
....Dry and sunny and windy in my neck of the woods thanks :grin:
I might check it out when I've caught up with all my forum posts :tongue:. That'll be sometime tomorrow then.
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have you tried the Haynes manuals for the Golf/GTI? Reasonably priced as well.
It's shyte - typical Haynes crap, often omitting some important points, and blatantly instructing to use petroleum based copper grease on rubber brake components. :angry:
Try this linky for official factory manuals - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324
TT thanks for the link, and pardon my ignorance, but how do you download these, its all in a foreign language to me and I cant find where to download the manuals on brakes?
Tried to remove the rear disks yesterday, no luck and gave up and painted them in place. Looks better than it did when it was rusty. Going to try take off the fronts if I can find a guide.
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TT thanks for the link, and pardon my ignorance, but how do you download these, its all in a foreign language to me and I cant find where to download the manuals on brakes?
Tried to remove the rear disks yesterday, no luck and gave up and painted them in place. Looks better than it did when it was rusty. Going to try take off the fronts if I can find a guide.
To download the docs you need to right click on the link and select save as (also must use Internet Explorer not Firefox)
Also this looks like a useful thread from the golfmk5.com - http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40013&highlight=rear+brake+pad
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Thanks SteveP.
I undid the disk/rotor screw, but couldn't get the disk/rotor off, do you have to give it a slap with a mallet or something? Mine didnt come off on either back wheel.
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Thanks SteveP.
I undid the disk/rotor screw, but couldn't get the disk/rotor off, do you have to give it a slap with a mallet or something? Mine didnt come off on either back wheel.
Not tried it myself yet on the Golf but would expect it needs a bit of force to detach it from the hub after being on there for a while with the constant temp changes and pressure from the wheel.
Do you have any pics and what paint did you use?
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I might check it out when I've caught up with all my forum posts :tongue:. That'll be sometime tomorrow then.
LOL, if you are like me, trying to catch up with all the posts is like trying to paint the Forth Bridge! :sad:
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have you tried the Haynes manuals for the Golf/GTI? Reasonably priced as well.
It's shyte - typical Haynes crap, often omitting some important points, and blatantly instructing to use petroleum based copper grease on rubber brake components. :angry:
Try this linky for official factory manuals - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324
TT thanks for the link, and pardon my ignorance, but how do you download these, its all in a foreign language to me and I cant find where to download the manuals on brakes?
Yup, as SteveP states, right click > save target as. Save it to a convenient folder on your hard disk, then once youv'e downloaded them, they are there to stay, even if the host site goes down - and we all know that can happen, don't we <cough> jv <cough> :grin:
Tried to remove the rear disks yesterday, no luck and gave up and painted them in place. Looks better than it did when it was rusty.
As well as removing the sliding part of the caliper (which contains the piston), you also need to remove the caliper carrier from the hub carrier, before removing the disc. This is standard practice for virtually all disc brakes with sliding calipers. When you do remove the carrier, it is very important to clean up the bolt threads with a wire brush, AND use a thread locking compound, such as PermaBond A130 or Loctite 2701. A wee dab on the sliding pin bolts is also good practice.
Going to try take off the fronts if I can find a guide.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324 - first one in the BRAKES section.
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Hi
Someone can tell me who has the best price for this brake kit?
Thanks!