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Title: GTi vs 911
Post by: mr magoo on 02 August 2008, 12:16
Okay chaps.

Sat in a 911 as a passenger for the first time last weekend. Don't quote me on what it was but it was something like a Carrera 4S?

Can't say I was particularly impressed. Nicely built and everything but left me feeling a bit cold. Thought it was bland.

Like having engines on a roller skate!

I certainly wouldn't pay 50k+ for one.

Golf GTi all the way!

What do others think?

M
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Cass on 02 August 2008, 12:39
Sorry but completely disagree here - the GTI is a very nice and accomplished all round car but the 911 is a superb sports supercar.

No comparison at all - you'd know that of you've owned or used one as a daily driver. Great performance and driving experience with an outstanding engine note. Different class and completely different driving experience - as all Porsches.

IMHO, of course :smiley:

Cass
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: WhiteGTI on 02 August 2008, 12:47
Dad's C4S runs rings around the GTi in every single aspect!! A very accomplished car.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Hurdy on 02 August 2008, 14:50
+......Love them

-......not that fast :wink: in Carrera mode.


+++.........GT3 is nuts. GT3RS is nuttier. Turbo is Bonkers and GT2 is plainly a widowmaker :cool:

9FF is just unbelievably silly fast http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYJguvfkQo0
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: RedRobin on 02 August 2008, 15:13
....Have driven a 911 Targa when working in Spain many decades ago! More recently driven a friend's Boxster S and found it no faster than my GTI but a glorious soundtrack and superbly finished and designed. I'd much rather buy a 'previously used' Porsche than a new Audi TT or any other 2-seater.

Also, this one : -

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED937_quads.jpg)

:cool:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 02 August 2008, 16:29
Slightly off track, so apologies, but what are your opinions of the SLK 280 and 350. You guys make valid points for and against which sometimes can be quite useful!
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: dubaiphil on 02 August 2008, 16:49
SLK = (successful) hairdresser's car.

Build quality on a par with a favourite German hatchback of mine, but very overpriced.

fine for cruising, but a croc of sh!te if you want to press on, compared to a Boxster S.  AMG55 SLK is another matter, but not in the same price range.  If I had that amount of spare cash for a car, it would be the Carrera 4S all the way...

To cap it off even more over here in Dubai - for the same price as a new SLK 200 Kompressor hairdryer, you can buy a new Boxster S with lots of bells and whistles....
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 02 August 2008, 16:52
Thanks Phil!
It will mainly be a daily driver, then used twice a year for around 2k mile tours of Europe. Its narrower than the Boxster, which I also test drove and just didnt like  :sad: and being narrow where we live saves the wheels from kerb rash. Plus having a metal roof makes it safer to leave anywhere, great build quality and 5.4 0 - 62 for the 350....


Oh and I test drove the 200, the GTI would eat it for breakfast, hence the 350 idea. AMG kit possibly, but the 55's outta my price range.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: dubaiphil on 02 August 2008, 17:04
Lol

Just my opinion, Newgolf!

Prices are a bit more equal in the UK, but over here it's a bit of a no brainer - BMW 320i, Mercedes C class with a 2 litre 4 pot, SLK 200, or Boxster S with all the extras on for the same price....

Hence I've got something coming from Porsche in a couple of month as a weekend car!
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 02 August 2008, 17:20
Lol

Just my opinion, Newgolf!

Prices are a bit more equal in the UK, but over here it's a bit of a no brainer - BMW 320i, Mercedes C class with a 2 litre 4 pot, SLK 200, or Boxster S with all the extras on for the same price....

Hence I've got something coming from Porsche in a couple of month as a weekend car!

Good opinion though, its good to hear what other peoples views are first as its a lot of money to spend on a car without looking into it properly.

Other choices were, but ruled out by her ladyship for various reasons..

A3 convertible, very disapointing, small boot and lots of scuttle shake.
Mini Convertible, no chance, awful to drive.
Porsche Boxster, too wide. Didnt like the bland interior.
TT, not bad but only available FWD which she has a problem with in the wet after having an AWD S4
TTS, better to drive but too much "in your face" with the extra body styling and stands out too much (so I'm told)

Her words, not mine. "It has to be German, look good, not wheelspin off the line in the wet, and sound good too, oh and be red, black or silver. Oh and have heated front seats, Xenons, traction control, leather and look like its expensive. Oh and convertible".

One of the down sides of having a "high maintenance" wife it seems...  :sad:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: RedRobin on 02 August 2008, 17:25
Her words, not mine. "It has to be German, look good, not wheelspin off the line in the wet, and sound good too, oh and be red, black or silver. Oh and have heated front seats, Xenons, traction control, leather and look like its expensive. Oh and convertible".

....Leaving absolutely no doubt that she's all-woman!!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Top Cat on 02 August 2008, 17:30
Lol

Just my opinion, Newgolf!

Prices are a bit more equal in the UK, but over here it's a bit of a no brainer - BMW 320i, Mercedes C class with a 2 litre 4 pot, SLK 200, or Boxster S with all the extras on for the same price....

Hence I've got something coming from Porsche in a couple of month as a weekend car!

Good opinion though, its good to hear what other peoples views are first as its a lot of money to spend on a car without looking into it properly.

Other choices were, but ruled out by her ladyship for various reasons..

A3 convertible, very disapointing, small boot and lots of scuttle shake.
Mini Convertible, no chance, awful to drive.
Porsche Boxster, too wide. Didnt like the bland interior.
TT, not bad but only available FWD which she has a problem with in the wet after having an AWD S4
TTS, better to drive but too much "in your face" with the extra body styling and stands out too much (so I'm told)

Her words, not mine. "It has to be German, look good, not wheelspin off the line in the wet, and sound good too, oh and be red, black or silver. Oh and have heated front seats, Xenons, traction control, leather and look like its expensive. Oh and convertible".

One of the down sides of having a "high maintenance" wife it seems...  :sad:
In imho the slk is the best looking folding tin top full stop the interior is really nice, the colour has to be black or dark blue, its not the most amazing sports car you will ever drive but should be sporty enough for your lady and the occasional blast by you.
PS can i come over there and have a short back and sides.  (http://www.smileys.me.uk/smileys/Cool/cool0008.gif) (http://www.smileys.me.uk/)
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: R32UK on 02 August 2008, 19:45
911 turbo cab :cool: (996)
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 02 August 2008, 20:04
911 turbo cab :cool: (996)

Can you get good used ones? Any pics bud?
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Phil mcavity on 02 August 2008, 20:14
Answer= hi-spec Eos
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 02 August 2008, 20:17
Answer= hi-spec Eos
Hi Phil  :smiley:
She says...

Only 2wd, big scuttle shake and really bad reviews. I like the look of it though  :wink:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Phil mcavity on 02 August 2008, 20:20
Best value holding car in the VW range currently tell her.you can own it for 2 years and loose nxt to nothing on Forecourt price. Have a look on VW'S website.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: k4ith on 02 August 2008, 20:21
folk's are right there's no comparisson between the golf and all porsche's bar the boxter, that one is for wannabe rich kids.(hopes nobody takes offence)  If i had a porsche i dont know if i could drive it about town as for me it attracts the wrong attention. espec the cabrio's my mate had one and the hood was always getting slashed.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Phil mcavity on 02 August 2008, 20:23
or if you like bmw's, id have the 6 series Convertable hard top, now thats a class car!
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: R32UK on 02 August 2008, 20:29
911 turbo cab :cool: (996)

Can you get good used ones? Any pics bud?

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/PORSCHE+911/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-57-240-4294967042-4294967213/advert.action?R=200831315738494&distance=212&postcode=ls17+8st&channel=CARS&make=PORSCHE&model=911&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=



http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/PORSCHE+911/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-57-240-4294967042-4294967213/advert.action?R=200829314414713&distance=177&postcode=ls17+8st&channel=CARS&make=PORSCHE&model=911&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 02 August 2008, 20:39
Thanks R32, nice car. Just have to pass it by her ladyship, check the MPG and width etc. Jeez she's fussy!  :wink: :sad:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Phil mcavity on 02 August 2008, 20:41
sorry , i think thats total waste of money those porsche's, £50k for a 4 year old car!!!!, you need your head seeing too!.If your goona WASTE £50k on a car, then you must have money to burn!. Totally pointless cars
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: R32UK on 02 August 2008, 20:49
sorry , i think thats total waste of money those porsche's, £50k for a 4 year old car!!!!, you need your head seeing too!.If your goona WASTE £50k on a car, then you must have money to burn!. Totally pointless cars

Hang on Phil... we are talking about a 911 turbo here. Approx cost 100k a couple of years back. Kick as performance... wind thru your hair.. hand top available too. Whats not to like??
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Phil mcavity on 02 August 2008, 20:54
quiet abit actually and if thats the case of being 100k, wind through your hair you say, if you can afford to loose 50k over a few years, then you have more money then sense.

Edit*****
i dont like this car at all  :smiley:

sorry not one of my favorites R32uk as you can imagine!.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Top Cat on 02 August 2008, 20:57
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/adolf_hitler_ns.jpg)



                      you tell him Phil
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Cass on 02 August 2008, 21:15
NewGolf - I don't agree with Phil here, as I'm a big fan of the 911 and all Porsches. The 911 Turbo Cabriolet is a fabulous car if you want a drop top but if you have discounted the Boxster because it's too wide, you will do that with the 911 Turbo - those fabulous rear arches are W...I...D...E :rolleyes:

There are also some significant practical issues with owning a 911 (or any Porsche for that matter) - warranty (£750 year from OPC's and you do need it believe me - blown engines and leaky rear main oil seals are not at all unusual), insurance (group 20 - enough said) and servicing (most main dealers charge £100/hour + so you need to  budget about £2k/year in running costs although independent specialists can save you loads but you don't get the all important OPC stamp in the service book).

I once delivered a new 911 Turbo to Portugal in 2004 for a friend of a friend. Drove all the way from Newcastle to Cascais and it was without doubt the best driving experience of my life :smug:

Each to their own though - you either like them or not. Good to have different opinions here but I'm not into general stereotyping. I now drive a GTI because I'm retired and it was a present to myself. I bought it because it represents the best value for money practical performance car for my needs and I have a long history with the GTI. That said, if I get a few quid, I'm well likely to get a 911 - a 993 that is :evil:

As I've already said, they're completely different cars though :rolleyes:

Cass
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 02 August 2008, 21:16
Well she flatly turned it down saying its for fat balding men having a mid life crisis.

Merc's still in the lead, just got to choose between the 280 or 350 now.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 02 August 2008, 21:18
NewGolf - I don't agree with Phil here, as I'm a big fan of the 911 and all Porsches. The 911 Turbo Cabriolet is a fabulous car if you want a drop top but if you have discounted the Boxster because it's too wide, you will do that with the 911 Turbo - those fabulous rear arches are W...I...D...E :rolleyes:

There are also some significant practical issues with owning a 911 (or any Porsche for that matter) - warranty (£750 year from OPC's and you do need it believe me - blown engines and leaky rear main oil seals are not at all unusual), insurance (group 20 - enough said) and servicing (most main dealers charge £100/hour + so you need to  budget about £2k/year in running costs although independent specialists can save you loads but you don't get the all important OPC stamp in the service book).

I once delivered a new 911 Turbo to Portugal in 2004 for a friend of a friend. Drove all the way from Newcastle to Cascais and it was without doubt the best driving experience of my life :smug:

Each to their own though - you either like them or not. Good to have different opinions here but I'm not into general stereotyping. I now drive a GTI because I'm retired and it was a present to myself. I bought it because it represents the best value for money practical performance car for my needs and I have a long history with the GTI. That said, if I get a few quid, I'm well likely to get a 911 - a 993 that is :evil:

As I've already said, they're completely different cars though :rolleyes:

Cass

Some good points there Cass, fully appreciate the wisdom.

Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Cass on 02 August 2008, 21:18
Well she flatly turned it down saying its for fat balding men having a mid life crisis.

Merc's still in the lead, just got to choose between the 280 or 350 now.

Been there and done that - if it's her choice get her the 350, at least it has some grunt for a hairdressers car (stereotyping - me  :grin:)

Cass
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Cass on 02 August 2008, 21:21
Seriously, my mate has a 350 and he loves it. Just realised he's now in Saudi and the car is garaged up - must email him and ask him if he wants it warmed up a bit :laugh:

Cass
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 02 August 2008, 21:23
Well she flatly turned it down saying its for fat balding men having a mid life crisis.

Merc's still in the lead, just got to choose between the 280 or 350 now.

Been there and done that - if it's her choice get her the 350, at least it has some grunt for a hairdressers car (stereotyping - me  :grin:)

Cass

I was thinking along these lines, and after test driving one, I actually quite liked it!  Sounds good, not as good as the S4, but still...

Ok so now 7 gear Tiptronic or manual, as the normal auto box is terrible!
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 02 August 2008, 21:26
Seriously, my mate has a 350 and he loves it. Just realised he's now in Saudi and the car is garaged up - must email him and ask him if he wants it warmed up a bit :laugh:

Cass

Can you get some more details please Cass, ie manual or auto, standard suspension or sport pack? Standard body or the AMG kit...!!!

Apologies for all the questions! Its a toss up between Obsidian Black and Iridium silver now...
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: RedRobin on 02 August 2008, 22:48
quiet abit actually and if thats the case of being 100k, wind through your hair you say, if you can afford to loose 50k over a few years, then you have more money then sense.  Sorry mate, all porshe owners in soft tops are a bunch of balding ,willy wavers if ever seen, with there expensive sunglasses on, driver by Company Swats mostly, and not a single mobile hands free in sight, total to$$ers, the majority in anycase.


....Several good friends of mine have Porsches (as I posted earlier) and I have to take exception to them being called willy wavers etc etc. One in particular and who is one of my best friends, genuinely loves cars, as did his father (who was one of my company directors) and his grandfather who raced Bentleys at Brooklands. The family has money - Serious money! His previous car was a new DB9 and before that a TVR and Ducatti bike - He works very hard and runs his own business (in fact you would have heard of that company). The simple fact is that £100k to one person is like £100 to someone else and there are plenty of such wealthy people (like the friend who flew me to Geneva just for lunch not long ago). However rich or poor you are, whether materially or spiritually, there is ALWAYS someone else who is richer or poorer. It shouldn't matter to you.

You really shouldn't generalise like that, Phil.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Cass on 02 August 2008, 22:53
Sweet words RR :smug:

Cass
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Cass on 02 August 2008, 22:54
Seriously, my mate has a 350 and he loves it. Just realised he's now in Saudi and the car is garaged up - must email him and ask him if he wants it warmed up a bit :laugh:

Cass

Can you get some more details please Cass, ie manual or auto, standard suspension or sport pack? Standard body or the AMG kit...!!!

Apologies for all the questions! Its a toss up between Obsidian Black and Iridium silver now...

Have emailed him - will post response when received.

Cass
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Phil mcavity on 03 August 2008, 07:43
  :lipsrsealed: :embarassed:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: R32UK on 03 August 2008, 08:57
quiet abit actually and if thats the case of being 100k, wind through your hair you say, if you can afford to loose 50k over a few years, then you have more money then sense.

Edit*****
i dont like this car at all  :smiley:

sorry not one of my favorites R32uk as you can imagine!.

Appreciate your comments there Phil. I admit the the 911 isnt for everyone (me inc. I hated the 996 with a passion) but it is a engineering marvel regardless of what we/you think of it. The turbo being the best of them. Its a quality car and the truth of it is if you spend 100k on any car brand new.. then your not likely to see much of that money back after 3-4 yrs (just be gratefull you didnt buy a DB7!!).

It is regarded as a little bit of a bald man in a mid-life crisis car... but thats usually because these little bald men know what they are doing when it comes to buying cars. But if it was me.. I wouldnt be bothered about little comments like that, Im only 28 and the turbo is definately on my shopping list!! i know others will be thinking yeah but the GT-R is faster and cheaper.. but 2 sec on the ring really would not show on the road at all!

If it was my money then I would go down the RS4 cab/TVR route... nothing sexier than a girl driving an expensive but not so girly car! (my ex had a boxster s and even tho I didnt like it... atleast she didnt buy a TT  :kiss:)
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 03 August 2008, 10:47
Neither me, and no doubt Phil meant any offence by the comments, (I dont even know what a willy waver is?) about porsche drivers.  :smiley:

I have 2 friends who own Porsches, both bald and both seemingly going through mid life crisies, (in fact one divorced, sold the house and bought an expensive 911 :rolleyes:. )! I like them, personally, its just the wife doesn't and hey, its going to be her car!

Appreciate the help Cass, there are hardly any of them over here so I cant just ask an owner !  :wink:

RS4 cabs too wide, R32UK, its wider than our S4, and that had to have 2 replacement wheels due to her kerb rashing them  :sad:

Now thats a car I'd love!


Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: R32UK on 03 August 2008, 11:35
I would run with the 350 slk! Even tho I am not a fan of the new benz's... i just think the whole quality of thier cars is a let down, i dont think the slk falls into that bracket. 350's look and sound lovelly!! but if you have driven one you will know that visibilty isnt great so expect a few more kerbs to be bashed :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: RedRobin on 03 August 2008, 11:41
Neither me, and no doubt Phil meant any offence by the comments, (I dont even know what a willy waver is?) about porsche drivers.  :smiley:

....If you'd travelled in convoy with Phil as I did up to Inters, you'd have experienced Phil's speciality of willy waving :evil: - No, I'm only joking and hope my words weren't too harsh or defensive in my earlier post - I was just expressing my counter opinion and have met Phil several times and enjoy his company.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Top Cat on 03 August 2008, 18:20
AH! i love a happy ending (http://www.smileys.me.uk/smileys/Love/love0075.gif) (http://www.smileys.me.uk/)
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Cass on 03 August 2008, 20:53
NewGolf - got a response from my mate in Saudi.

In summary, he has the SLK 350 and loves it, but..... His summary comments are as follows:

"The SLK.  Mine has a lot of extras - air scarf, heated seats, sports suspension, phone kit, Sat Nav, CD changer, speed Auto box, leather, metallic paint and a couple of bits and pieces. A fantastic car but Merc customer care is sh!tE! However, I'm told BMW is no better.  Merc have too many models with little commonality so their staff are maxed out and their mechanics pissed off. The sales people keep bringing out new models/mods which the dealerships can't keep abreast of. Merc UK seem to forget their customers pay their wages - they are PITIFUL. As a car though, it is great but I'd happliy go back to Jaguar if they produced anything like it".

Hmmm..... a common thread here about dealers :shocked:

Today, I read a back to back road test in Autocar (last week July 2008) between the SLK 280 and the Audi TT Roadster. TT kicked it's arse and is rated as the much better car. The Merc's 7G Tiptronic gets a poor rating as well as does it's handling. Fine for a tourer but not a sports coupe.

At the end of the day though, it's your money and you need to decide what your needs are and what floats your boat...................

Either way, nice situation to be in :smug:

Cass
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: MAT ed30 on 03 August 2008, 21:55
how can anyone not love a porsche  :drool:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/P1010084.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/P1010125.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/P1010124.jpg)
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: k4ith on 03 August 2008, 22:03
that green is like my bairns poo :sick:
dont get me wrong i would have one i just wouldn't drive it in a populated area.As folk look and say DICK.

Buy a nissan GTr, if i didn't have the small people then my name would be on the order list.

Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: RedRobin on 03 August 2008, 22:04
....I'm always amazed how Porsche continues to evolve the car without destroying the original basic appearance. Every single model is instantly recognisable as 911 derived.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: RedRobin on 03 August 2008, 22:06

dont get me wrong i would have one i just wouldn't drive it in a populated area. As folk look and say DICK.

....I wouldn't care two sh!ts what anyone else thought - I'd be the one enjoying driving it.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: WhiteGTI on 03 August 2008, 22:12
The 911 is truly a great car, and in current 997 form not a lot can touch it....however......It is widely recognised that the Cayman is a more accomplished, better handling and more balanced car (obviously not having to contend with the engine at the rear makes life a lot easier).

The thing to do would be to: Buy a Cayman / Cayman S, send it to RUF in Germany and get them to put a 997 Turbo engine in it.....job done! Apparently the salesman who we deal with at Porsche has said a lot of his customers have done this and the results have been amazing.

IMO I don't really like the Cayman styling, each to their own though!
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: MAT ed30 on 03 August 2008, 22:16
that green is like my bairns poo :sick:
dont get me wrong i would have one i just wouldn't drive it in a populated area.As folk look and say DICK.

Buy a nissan GTr, if i didn't have the small people then my name would be on the order list.



i have just been and had a look at 2 gtr nissans one in black and one grey and as good as they are  and as cheap as they are you are still left with a nissan and dont get me wrong i would have one but i would end up buying a porsche as i am into aircooled stuff big time and am into the haritage side aswell.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: RedRobin on 03 August 2008, 22:23
Porsche Cayman - Beautiful! : -

(http://www.autoclub.com.au/uploaded_images/techart-gtsport-porsche-cayman-2006-776706.jpg)

(http://www.autoclub.com.au/uploaded_images/techart-gtsport-porsche-cayman-2006-739554.jpg)
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: WhiteGTI on 03 August 2008, 22:28
Porsche Cayman - Beautiful! : -

(http://www.autoclub.com.au/uploaded_images/techart-gtsport-porsche-cayman-2006-776706.jpg)

(http://www.autoclub.com.au/uploaded_images/techart-gtsport-porsche-cayman-2006-739554.jpg)

Ok...........that particular Cayman is bloody lovely!!!!!!
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Hurdy on 03 August 2008, 22:37
Mat,

Did you go to the Autosport show then? :nerd:

I noticed the Ferrari classic stand and the green Porsche from the show in the pics :cool:

Here are a few more juicy Porsche shots from that show.

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Autosportshowpics099.jpg)

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Autosportshowpics098.jpg)

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Autosportshowpics096.jpg)

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Autosportshowpics094.jpg)

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Autosportshowpics026.jpg)

Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Top Cat on 03 August 2008, 23:47
I must be mad but i love that green. There is a evening car show near Melton mowbery the second tuesday in every month and there was one there that colour bran spanker everyone was saying it was  :sick: but i loved it am i mad (http://www.smileys.me.uk/smileys/Confused/confused010.gif) (http://www.smileys.me.uk/)
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: MAT ed30 on 04 August 2008, 00:16
yes mate I was there and I would have the green too
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 04 August 2008, 07:41
NewGolf - got a response from my mate in Saudi.

In summary, he has the SLK 350 and loves it, but..... His summary comments are as follows:

"The SLK.  Mine has a lot of extras - air scarf, heated seats, sports suspension, phone kit, Sat Nav, CD changer, speed Auto box, leather, metallic paint and a couple of bits and pieces. A fantastic car but Merc customer care is sh!tE! However, I'm told BMW is no better.  Merc have too many models with little commonality so their staff are maxed out and their mechanics pissed off. The sales people keep bringing out new models/mods which the dealerships can't keep abreast of. Merc UK seem to forget their customers pay their wages - they are PITIFUL. As a car though, it is great but I'd happliy go back to Jaguar if they produced anything like it".

Hmmm..... a common thread here about dealers :shocked:

Today, I read a back to back road test in Autocar (last week July 2008) between the SLK 280 and the Audi TT Roadster. TT kicked it's arse and is rated as the much better car. The Merc's 7G Tiptronic gets a poor rating as well as does it's handling. Fine for a tourer but not a sports coupe.

At the end of the day though, it's your money and you need to decide what your needs are and what floats your boat...................

Either way, nice situation to be in :smug:

Cass

Thanks Cass, some good points there.
Its main use will be a daily driver, and a long distance tourer a couple of times a year. The cars we test drove were really comfy and great with the hood open. Who cares if people think I'm a hairdresser!! I dont!  :wink:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Top Cat on 04 August 2008, 09:59
NewGolf - got a response from my mate in Saudi.

In summary, he has the SLK 350 and loves it, but..... His summary comments are as follows:

"The SLK.  Mine has a lot of extras - air scarf, heated seats, sports suspension, phone kit, Sat Nav, CD changer, speed Auto box, leather, metallic paint and a couple of bits and pieces. A fantastic car but Merc customer care is sh!tE! However, I'm told BMW is no better.  Merc have too many models with little commonality so their staff are maxed out and their mechanics pissed off. The sales people keep bringing out new models/mods which the dealerships can't keep abreast of. Merc UK seem to forget their customers pay their wages - they are PITIFUL. As a car though, it is great but I'd happliy go back to Jaguar if they produced anything like it".

Hmmm..... a common thread here about dealers :shocked:

Today, I read a back to back road test in Autocar (last week July 2008) between the SLK 280 and the Audi TT Roadster. TT kicked it's arse and is rated as the much better car. The Merc's 7G Tiptronic gets a poor rating as well as does it's handling. Fine for a tourer but not a sports coupe.

At the end of the day though, it's your money and you need to decide what your needs are and what floats your boat...................

Either way, nice situation to be in :smug:

Cass

Thanks Cass, some good points there.
Its main use will be a daily driver, and a long distance tourer a couple of times a year. The cars we test drove were really comfy and great with the hood open. Who cares if people think I'm a hairdresser!! I dont!  :wink:


 The question is how will you and your friend fit in  :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:


(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/75073_1203017582.jpg)
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Top Cat on 04 August 2008, 10:14
yes mate I was there and I would have the green too

Matt did you see the EVO 10 there, and if so was that standard it was a Fooking monster.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: MAT ed30 on 04 August 2008, 10:20
this one
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/P1010094.jpg)
or this
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/P1010096.jpg)
both stock
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Top Cat on 04 August 2008, 10:24
IT was white and more beefy than that, had lots of carbon bit's a huge carbon diffuser and not so preety carbon backed seats
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 04 August 2008, 18:17
NewGolf - got a response from my mate in Saudi.

In summary, he has the SLK 350 and loves it, but..... His summary comments are as follows:

"The SLK.  Mine has a lot of extras - air scarf, heated seats, sports suspension, phone kit, Sat Nav, CD changer, speed Auto box, leather, metallic paint and a couple of bits and pieces. A fantastic car but Merc customer care is sh!tE! However, I'm told BMW is no better.  Merc have too many models with little commonality so their staff are maxed out and their mechanics pissed off. The sales people keep bringing out new models/mods which the dealerships can't keep abreast of. Merc UK seem to forget their customers pay their wages - they are PITIFUL. As a car though, it is great but I'd happliy go back to Jaguar if they produced anything like it".

Hmmm..... a common thread here about dealers :shocked:

Today, I read a back to back road test in Autocar (last week July 2008) between the SLK 280 and the Audi TT Roadster. TT kicked it's arse and is rated as the much better car. The Merc's 7G Tiptronic gets a poor rating as well as does it's handling. Fine for a tourer but not a sports coupe.

At the end of the day though, it's your money and you need to decide what your needs are and what floats your boat...................

Either way, nice situation to be in :smug:

Cass

Thanks Cass, some good points there.
Its main use will be a daily driver, and a long distance tourer a couple of times a year. The cars we test drove were really comfy and great with the hood open. Who cares if people think I'm a hairdresser!! I dont!  :wink:


 The question is how will you and your friend fit in  :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:


(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/75073_1203017582.jpg)

Ok Topcat, be honest now, which ones you and which one's your partner?  :wink:

Or was it you holding the camera at one of your special "sleepovers"???  :grin:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Top Cat on 04 August 2008, 18:21
Ok Topcat, be honest now, which ones you and which one's your partner?  wink

Or was it you holding the camera at one of your special "sleepover

You guessed it i'm the one holding the camera because im as bald as a coot  :drool:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 04 August 2008, 18:24
Show your friend on the left holding the hairdryer how to plug it in will ya, it'll work a lot better!  :wink:

Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Top Cat on 04 August 2008, 18:27
You would notice that because your new little brum brum comes with built in hair dryer air scarf  :wink:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 04 August 2008, 18:32
You would notice that because your new little brum brum comes with built in hair dryer air scarf  :wink:

No arguement from me on that one mate!  :wink:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 05 August 2008, 20:15
Ok so this has appeared, I know its a rendering, but the wife LOVES it (the car I mean  :wink:)

Looks great, is a VW and easier to live with. I hope its put into production!

(http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20&d=1217905626)

 :smiley:

Where do I sign?
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Phil mcavity on 05 August 2008, 20:20
mmmmmmmmmmm red!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, im loving that!!, now all i need is to go bald and it will suit me!
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: SteveP on 05 August 2008, 20:22
It does look very  :cool:,  If it does ever go into production I just hope dont use too much of the Audi A3 Cab rear quarter styling.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 05 August 2008, 20:25
It does look very  :cool:,  If it does ever go into production I just hope dont use too much of the Audi A3 Cab rear quarter styling.

Fully agree. It looks fantastic, it's sell, shes already emailed her friends who also like it!
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: RedRobin on 05 August 2008, 20:53
....That Golf looks soooo much more stylish than the Audi A3 cab (not too difficult to look better though!).
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Cass on 05 August 2008, 23:33
Agreed - looks fab :cool:

Cass
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Hurdy on 06 August 2008, 00:09
It does look good, but will they really make it?

They already make the Eos, so two cabs in the same class seems like one too many? :undecided:

http://www.hofele.com/design/en/VW_Eos_1F/img/Largo_RS_20_Eos_1F.jpg
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 10 August 2008, 12:03
Other choices were, but ruled out by her ladyship for various reasons..

A3 convertible, very disapointing, small boot and lots of scuttle shake.
Mini Convertible, no chance, awful to drive.
Porsche Boxster, too wide. Didnt like the bland interior.
TT, not bad but only available FWD which she has a problem with in the wet after having an AWD S4
TTS, better to drive but too much "in your face" with the extra body styling and stands out too much (so I'm told)

Her words, not mine. "It has to be German, look good, not wheelspin off the line in the wet, and sound good too, oh and be red, black or silver. Oh and have heated front seats, Xenons, traction control, leather and look like its expensive. Oh and convertible".

One of the down sides of having a "high maintenance" wife it seems...  :sad:

The new TT roadster is available in quattro - on both VR6 and oil-burning forms - http://www.audi.co.uk/audi/uk/en2/new_cars/tt/New_TT_Roadster/specifications.html
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 14:04
....Though I'm not interested in the TT, Audi have a very good set of broad options for versions. I guess that the bigger 3.2 will take a bad hit in the current so-called 'green' climate.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Hurdy on 10 August 2008, 14:40
....Though I'm not interested in the TT, Audi have a very good set of broad options for versions. I guess that the bigger 3.2 will take a bad hit in the current so-called 'green' climate.

No point to the 3.2TT now. The TT-S has a 2ltr engine, 272ps, Quattro, lower emissions and better fuel consumption. It also looks better too :cool:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 14:45
....2ltr, 272ps, quattro, Mk6 GTI anybody? :grin:

The engine would work well in the Scirocco too  :evil:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Hurdy on 10 August 2008, 14:48
....2ltr, 272ps, quattro, Mk6 GTI anybody? :grin:

The engine would work well in the Scirocco too  :evil:

I could be tempted :cool:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 11 August 2008, 21:57
....Though I'm not interested in the TT, Audi have a very good set of broad options for versions. I guess that the bigger 3.2 will take a bad hit in the current so-called 'green' climate.

No point to the 3.2TT now. The TT-S has a 2ltr engine, 272ps, Quattro, lower emissions and better fuel consumption. It also looks better too :cool:

Not in a roadster though.  The TT-S is only available in the tin-top coupe!  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: luca on 11 August 2008, 22:05
They do a convertible one too
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/AUDI+TT/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-162-240-4294966148-4294966997/advert.action?R=200825312426768&distance=40&postcode=bb3+1pl&channel=CARS&make=AUDI&model=TT&min_pr=35000&max_pr=&max_mileage=
Must say it looks really good.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: NewGolf on 12 August 2008, 07:08
....Though I'm not interested in the TT, Audi have a very good set of broad options for versions. I guess that the bigger 3.2 will take a bad hit in the current so-called 'green' climate.

No point to the 3.2TT now. The TT-S has a 2ltr engine, 272ps, Quattro, lower emissions and better fuel consumption. It also looks better too :cool:

Not in a roadster though.  The TT-S is only available in the tin-top coupe!  :tongue:

My dealership has a TT-S in blue, Roadster, in their showroom right now.
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 August 2008, 20:40
They do a convertible one too
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/AUDI+TT/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-162-240-4294966148-4294966997/advert.action?R=200825312426768&distance=40&postcode=bb3+1pl&channel=CARS&make=AUDI&model=TT&min_pr=35000&max_pr=&max_mileage=
Must say it looks really good.

So they do!  :embarassed:

Nice . . .  :drool:
Title: Re: GTi vs 911
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 August 2008, 20:42
....Though I'm not interested in the TT, Audi have a very good set of broad options for versions. I guess that the bigger 3.2 will take a bad hit in the current so-called 'green' climate.

No point to the 3.2TT now. The TT-S has a 2ltr engine, 272ps, Quattro, lower emissions and better fuel consumption. It also looks better too :cool:

Not in a roadster though.  The TT-S is only available in the tin-top coupe!  :tongue:

My dealership has a TT-S in blue, Roadster, in their showroom right now.

Humph!

I doubt mine has!  I think they must drink at my local - the "Norfolk and Chance" !!  :wink:  :grin: