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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: aaronh on 30 July 2008, 16:01
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right i have a standard R32 :smiley:.. and a mate of mine has a tuned corsa vxr 239bhp and 274 ft/lb..
and he wants a little run in on a private road ofcourse! i used to have an audi tt but he had me in the corsa when i had the TT.. what do you think the outcome would be in a R32 though?
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I dunno, he might have you up to about 50 if it's dry.
Nick
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Its a Corsa........... :grin:
Its probably FWD and will wheel spin like dog on fleshly polished floors....
It probably wont have that much low torgue which the .:R has which aids in acceleration.
You have 4WD and launch control.... Use it.
I dont know much about the Corsa though. So im probably talking rubbish....
:smiley:
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i raced one of those the other day around town, pritty nippy little b*ggers but no match for the gti :wink:
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239 in a shopping trolley. If he hooks it up off the line he will leave you behind quite easily. They are ferociously fast little cars.
If you come to a corner though, he will understeer into a tree and die.
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239 in a shopping trolley. If he hooks it up off the line he will leave you behind quite easily. They are ferociously fast little cars.
If you come to a corner though, he will understeer into a tree and die.
LOL, just spat my orange out over the screen at that one :grin:
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right i have a standard R32 :smiley:.. and a mate of mine has a tuned corsa vxr 239bhp and 274 ft/lb..
and he wants a little run in on a private road ofcourse! what do you think the outcome would be?
Who cares, its a vauxhall. You drive a quality car and dont need to race chavs! :wink: You have nothing to lose, tell him you are too busy listening to your V6.... :smiley:
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In a straight line, other than 1st gear where the Corsa will be busy wheel spinning and you will gain with 4x4 grip, the Corsa should be faster down to much less weight.
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If it is 239bhp (Stage 3) then I don't fancy your chances at all mate.. :sad: Unless it's a standing start to 40mph.. :grin:
He's got similar power and weighs 300kgs less.. :shocked:
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If it is 239bhp (Stage 3) then I don't fancy your chances at all mate.. :sad: Unless it's a standing start to 40mph.. :grin:
He's got similar power and weighs 300kgs less.. :shocked:
Lol - More or less what I said. :grin:
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If his figures are genuine then he will have a very quick car and would think he will have the upper hand in a straight line.
Do a few runs against him if you can, i will guarantee his engine will go bang. Those internals were never designed to handle that power/heat/boost.
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If his figures are genuine then he will have a very quick car and would think he will have the upper hand in a straight line.
Do a few runs against him if you can, i will guarantee his engine will go bang. Those internals were never designed to handle that power/heat/boost.
Nor were the internals of the TFSi with regard to 300+bhp, but many of them run that power with no issues. Infact there are some BWA engined cars with stock internals and 380bhp courtesy of APR conversions, and they have had no major problems either.
I am not entirely convinced by the VXR range of cars (not keen on them) or their Ecotec engines (this is based on previous experience with a Vauxhall Ecotec engine), but they do go well.
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If his figures are genuine then he will have a very quick car and would think he will have the upper hand in a straight line.
Do a few runs against him if you can, i will guarantee his engine will go bang. Those internals were never designed to handle that power/heat/boost.
Off topic, but you got your rims on yet mate? :wink: How's the car going?
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Yes Vauxhall's are pants as i found out last week, my Co have given me Astra 1.8 Sri for a month and its nickers i thought it would be a bit nippy but its dull,dull,dull.It has SPORT button on the dash press it and fook all happens, but i am wondering if its like the TP button and finds sport on the radio :undecided: :laugh:.
As for the VXR i'd say you may get a wee fright, how'd he get 239 out it?
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Ordered wheels last week, should be arriving next weekend fingers crossed :grin:. Car is running well, done over 2000 now.
As for the vxr internals im not sure they can cope, time will tell as its still fairly new. The turbo may struggle as the one on the vxr is tiny, and the only way the vxr can get 239bhp is to turn up the boost pretty high.
I saw the arctic edition corsa vxr at the motorshow yesterday and have got to say that did look pretty good, not worth £17k though.
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They do don't they.. You won't be paying 17k for them anyway. more like 47p by the time Vauxhall give out their usual discount and it'll be worth about 3 1/2p when it leaves the show room.. :grin:
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Ordered wheels last week, should be arriving next weekend fingers crossed :grin:. Car is running well, done over 2000 now.
As for the vxr internals im not sure they can cope, time will tell as its still fairly new. The turbo may struggle as the one on the vxr is tiny, and the only way the vxr can get 239bhp is to turn up the boost pretty high.
I saw the arctic edition corsa vxr at the motorshow yesterday and have got to say that did look pretty good, not worth £17k though.
he said its still running standard boost apart from the overboost function or something like that has been disabled so it comes on all the time not just for 5seconds
Yes Vauxhall's are pants as i found out last week, my Co have given me Astra 1.8 Sri for a month and its nickers i thought it would be a bit nippy but its dull,dull,dull.It has SPORT button on the dash press it and fook all happens, but i am wondering if its like the TP button and finds sport on the radio :undecided: :laugh:.
As for the VXR i'd say you may get a wee fright, how'd he get 239 out it?
he has a remap/ larger intercooler and full exhaust.. he reckons when regal release the upgraded internals and turbo he will be pushing 300bhp+ :O
quite impressive for a 1.6
time for some tuning me thinks
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Theres no chance that the vxr can acheive that power with stock boost, His remap must be running stupidly lean or something, they only have 189bhp standard, intercooler wont add hp, it will just keep the boost air cooler resulting in the engine having the power for longer as it will take longer to get hot enough for the engine to dump fuel in at the top end therefore reducing power.
Exhaust will help with the power around 10-15bhp max depending on how restrictive the stock one is.
The remap is accounting for a 35bhp increase minimum.
Would be an animal if it had 300bhp but for the cost of a big turbo kit and stronger pistons etc, he could buy an astra zxr and run that to 300bhp for a lot cheaper.
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god knows then but he seems to think its running standard boost.. think im going to stay away until tuned after the replys on here anyway lol! wont be able to take being beat by a corsa :cry:
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don't know who will win, but i know which one will look like a gimp crossing the finish line.
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ok off to the General chat with this one.
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but its about a mk5 :huh:
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but its about a mk5 :huh:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
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you mk5 lot are turning into impreza owners lol
NOTHING CAN BEAT THE MIGHT OF A MK5
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no chance topher :wink:
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i bet i can move it more than you..
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Please stop placing mk5 sh!t in the real world
Regards
Jords
(i reckon the corsa)
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haha, try this one
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deleting doesn't work either... ner ner :tongue:
now really, leave it alone.. i like this thread! relevant and topical and a chance to slag off vauxhalls.
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ok comprimise met, check topic heading
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Slag off a Vauxhall eh?
Not going to slag them off, but I have noticed the following;
Corsa VXR lads believe they have the best/fastest small hatch and some of their owners often compare their cars to cars in the next class up like R32's, ST's etc.
Youtube video here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1kNNvbZgfc
Astra VXR lads believe they have the best/fastest mid sized hatch and some of their owners often compare their cars to cars in the next class up like M3's, Evo's etc.
Youtube video here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xDZonrA2Dw
Vectra VXR lads believe they have the best/fastest family size hatch and some of their owners talk of their cars being able to do 170mph out the box etc.
Hilarious Youtube video here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPHNPmfTopQ
What is funny is that you could add every bolt on to an Astra VXR with a standard turbo and it will make the same power as an Ed30 with a remap alone. You could add every bolt on to a Vectra VXR with a standard turbo and it will make similar power to an Ed30 with similar mods, and there is a shortfall of 800cc and 2 cylinders on the Ed30.
Each to their own, but while I would never have one, I respect VXR's and love the noise of the Astra and Vectra when modded. However I dont respect the fact that their owners automatically assume their car to be superior or faster than other cars in the same category.
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are you saying an ED30 will make around 400bhp+ with a remap?
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are you saying an ED30 will make around 400bhp+ with a remap?
Nope, and neither will a Vectra VXR.
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Vectra_VXR.shtml
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sorry im confused you said a vxr with every add on will make the same power as a ED30 with a remap?
also isnt the corsa supposed to be the fastest small hot hatch just not quite as good handling as the 197? and didnt it beat a record around the nurburgring? i very nearly brought a vxr :huh:
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sorry im confused you said a vxr with every add on will make the same power as a ED30 with a remap?
also isnt the corsa supposed to be the fastest small hot hatch just not quite as good handling as the 197? and didnt it beat a record around the nurburgring? i very nearly brought a vxr :huh:
Ah, I meant the Astra VXR mate with every bolt on, but not a bigger turbo ;)
Stage 3 Astra VXR makes just under 300bhp with full exhaust, intercooler and remap.
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Astra_VXR_Tuning.shtml
Golf Ed30 makes similar power with remap alone.
Stage 3 Vectra VXR makes similar power as a stage 2/3 Ed30 with TBE, Uprated Intake, Bigger intercooler and uprated fuel pump.
Regarding the Corsa time round the ring, it may well be the case. The Astra had the same accolade for a while too as memory serves. VXR's are cars worthy of peoples respect, but they are just not "all that" for want of a better expression. Where they may gain on the swings, they can lose out on the roundabouts.
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Are we really comparing a corsa to a mk5 r32???
The R32 would definately win.. esp if I was driving as i would just aim for the little shizzel!
Vxr pancake anyone?? :evil:
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Are we really comparing a corsa to a mk5 r32???
The R32 would definately win.. esp if I was driving as i would just aim for the little shizzel!
Vxr pancake anyone?? :evil:
One second separates a DSG MK5 R32 and a Corsa VXR round the ring if you use the information on Wikipedia it seems....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times
Goodness knows if that info is accurate right enough. I wonder what the 197 does it in as its not listed. It was faster round a short circuit as listed above.
Regardless, on the road, circuit times mean nothing.
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Are we really comparing a corsa to a mk5 r32???
The R32 would definately win.. esp if I was driving as i would just aim for the little shizzel!
Vxr pancake anyone?? :evil:
One second separates a DSG MK5 R32 and a Corsa VXR round the ring if you use the information on Wikipedia it seems....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times
Goodness knows if that info is accurate right enough. I wonder what the 197 does it in as its not listed. It was faster round a short circuit as listed above.
Regardless, on the road, circuit times mean nothing.
I think you will find its actually 5 sec's
And thats not with dsg :wink:
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right then meet up with him today and we had a few goes and i wont lie he was all over me really (couple of car lengths) :cry: not until 11* did i feel like i was starting to gain on him
took me out in the car after and itis a rapid little car!
his smurkness really got to me after!! defo time for some tuning
but if he was to fit the turbo and internals etc 300bhp+ not sure what torque.. and he had limited slip diff fittet what sort of mods would you say i would need
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300 ponies from a 1.6? Not likely. Anyway.. you could spend a couple of grand on exhaust/manifolds/cams/software and crack close to 280bhp.
After that you're talking forced induction. Storm's rotrex supercharger kit is on its way and will be about 6 grand plus fitting, which will give you upwards of 450bhp.
C2 motorsport do a single turbo kit (VF engineering are still working on theirs) which makes 400-ish but those are both american companies so you'll have to do some fiddling to get the downpipe working on a RHD, plus their ECU software won't be suitable for your car so you'll need a custom remap after that. Cost is around $9000 U.S so add import costs to that.
HPA do a 450bhp turbo kit but its telephone numbers - approaching 20 grand once you add the uprated brakes and clutch (which are a necessity in a F.I R32)
JBS do a 550+bhp twin scroll turbo and costs around 12-13 grand, although that is a fully built engine and they're soon to be working on a lower powered (350-ish) conversion that retains standard engine internals.
Or you can just leave it as it is and be happy that you don't look like a muppet behind the steering wheel of a scabby vauxhall corsa :cool:
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Who cares, its a vauxhall. You drive a quality car and dont need to race chavs! :wink: You have nothing to lose, tell him you are too busy listening to your V6.... :smiley:
....Hear!! Hear!! :cool:
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not sure how much more bhp a bigger turbo will give him? thats alot of money for turbo kits etc :undecided:
the thing is though i am the one who felt like a muppet losing to a corsa!
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not sure how much more bhp a bigger turbo will give him? thats alot of money for turbo kits etc :undecided:
the thing is though i am the one who felt like a muppet losing to a corsa!
have to do some more resarch into the tuning stuff
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Comparing standard and tuned is not really a great comparison. I would go the full hog and go for the turbo! Well if he is having one why shouldnt you??
tbh I think if it was anything other than a drag race you probably would have had him. The understeer on that must be terrible!
p.s. throw a few bricks in his boot the next time when hes not looking :rolleyes: :evil:
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300bhp out of a 1.6 isnt impossible.
Some guys witht the new minis are running over 300bhp from a 1.6 and some have gone further, producing up to 600bhp. All running the stock gearbox :shocked:.
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Well then they're cupid stunts aren't they :grin:
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LOL not stupid at all. They run challenge car suspension, huge brakes with carbontech pads, diffs etc. The cars handle the power very well, the one that has 600bhp is drag only but most of the ones around the 300-400 mark are very very good on track.
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The cars handle the power very well, the one that has 600bhp is drag only but most of the ones around the 300-400 mark are very very good on track.
I would imagine the 300-400 cars really suffer in day to day driving. I take it you're talking about the MKI Eaton charged cars and not the newer turbo'd MKII's.
Either way though new minis are pretty decent and a lot of the oldschool boys very quickly realised that creating good tuning kits for the newer cars was going to make them a lot of money. Some of the guys have ben tuning cars since the 60's and really know their stuff.
nick
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i should have thought about it before i had ago with him really to spair the imbaressment he's running the same bhp as an astra vxr but with around 30ft/lb more torque.. and he's probaly a fair bit lighter than an astra!
im not being a vauxhall fan but to those who is slagging it i wouldnt untill you go in one like this.. it did get the power down suprisingly good and i dont know where this it understeers like a b!tch has come from (maybe because the astra and vectra dont handle) but belive me he did sh*t me up on the corners and it did stick/corner well..
300bhp would be achivable if hes running 240 with the stock turbo! god know what turbo the upgrade will be and what sort of boost it will make
i do respect the car after today.. if i was to go for a small hot hatch i think i would definetly go for the corsa
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Well yeah.. if you want to go to that extreme I could get over 1000bhp out of my motor. I'd like to be able to use it more than twice a year though :laugh:
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Yes the first gen supercharged cars. With the sc cars the power is very linear so the power doesnt all come in at once so they are pretty well behaved on the road. The ones with all the trick suspension and diffs are a bit of a handfull on the road but on track they are crazy fast.
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Well yeah.. if you want to go to that extreme I could get over 1000bhp out of my motor. I'd like to be able to use it more than twice a year though :laugh:
These cars are driven everyday, not twice a year. 1000 bhp is silly and i think you would really struggle getting 1000bhp without going stroker and huge turbo which wont be driveable as it will just be too laggy. The mini that runs 400bhp has no sc and has a turbo instead, its not that big so boosts pretty early in the rev range, the car also weighs around 1050 kg so doesnt need silly power to keep up with supercars around the track.
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Need more infoez. Because most of what you just said defies the laws of physics :grin:
got links?
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got a little clip of the turbo 400bhp one and a 230bhp sc car on track. Very wet though so not gunning it.
Turbo is the black car and sc one is the blue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ydirIo3ADs
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no build threads or anything of the like?
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350bhp turbo one doing acceleration tests. Video is cut short at the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYoNBtNi7k0
Will find the thread for this car.
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Here is one i found, after it was built but has testing, figures etc.
http://www.mini2.com/forum/gt-tuning/139216-new-gtt300-turbo-pics-beast-unleashed.html
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Yeah I found that one too, but its an 'alleged' 300bhp kit (the bloke admits he hasn't dyno'd it.. deja vu of the IHI kits for the 1.8T in the late 90's) and destroys bushes on the track, which is a far cry from 400bhp and even further from these 600bhp ones with stock tranmissions that intrigue me! I know there is a 600bhp mk1 mini on the scene.. but that has a 7.2L V8 and a lot of nitrous :grin:
AmD did kits for the 'S cars with a supposed 315bhp (their r/r was well known to be 15 - 20% out, depending on which day you went) with a 400bhp nitrous'd one, but that had the uprated getrag gearbox.
Aaaanyway, I want to go back to bashing vauxhalls. Especially how if the torque curve is so linear, to reach high numbers it'll have to be revving it's t!ts off. But then again there is no more satisfying sight than watching a vauxhall spit it's valves through the bonnet :laugh:
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Am i the only person who feels sick travelling in vauxhalls????
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Am i the only person who feels sick travelling in vauxhalls????
No almost every owner does aswel :laugh:
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You may have been to Twycross Zoo and seen the famous PG Tips 'sh!t flinging apes'
I seem to feel the urge to return to that basic animal instinct when I see a vauxhall.
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i should have thought about it before i had ago with him really to spair the imbaressment he's running the same bhp as an astra vxr but with around 30ft/lb more torque.. and he's probaly a fair bit lighter than an astra!
im not being a vauxhall fan but to those who is slagging it i wouldnt untill you go in one like this.. it did get the power down suprisingly good and i dont know where this it understeers like a b!tch has come from (maybe because the astra and vectra dont handle) but belive me he did sh*t me up on the corners and it did stick/corner well..
300bhp would be achivable if hes running 240 with the stock turbo! god know what turbo the upgrade will be and what sort of boost it will make
i do respect the car after today.. if i was to go for a small hot hatch i think i would definetly go for the corsa
Just tell him if he wants to pick on a Golf with less mods than him then there is a fair few on here that'll stick up for there bigger brother... :grin:
Tell him there's a white Golf GTI on here that wants a crack with his Corsa and all it has is Remap and exhaust... :evil:
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i should have thought about it before i had ago with him really to spair the imbaressment he's running the same bhp as an astra vxr but with around 30ft/lb more torque.. and he's probaly a fair bit lighter than an astra!
im not being a vauxhall fan but to those who is slagging it i wouldnt untill you go in one like this.. it did get the power down suprisingly good and i dont know where this it understeers like a b!tch has come from (maybe because the astra and vectra dont handle) but belive me he did sh*t me up on the corners and it did stick/corner well..
300bhp would be achivable if hes running 240 with the stock turbo! god know what turbo the upgrade will be and what sort of boost it will make
i do respect the car after today.. if i was to go for a small hot hatch i think i would definetly go for the corsa
Just tell him if he wants to pick on a Golf with less mods than him then there is a fair few on here that'll stick up for there bigger brother... :grin:
Tell him there's a white Golf GTI on here that wants a crack with his Corsa and all it has is Remap and exhaust... :evil:
And if he goes north, a Leon Cupra....
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That thread on the mini is really old, It produced 391 bhp on superchips rr and their fan is rubbish.
Heres the thread
http://www.mini2.com/forum/gt-tuning/148806-gtt300t-rr-superchips-today-391bhp-graphs.html
Heres the mini with 600 bhp running in the tens at the 1/4 mile. Still 1.6, stock gearbox and bottom end of engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuuswp7D-RY
This mini is running the twincharge setup and the guy who built this is also responsible for building elanor gt500 from gone in sixty seconds.
I wouldnt make things up about the mini, it is a very durable car and has surprised many tuners out there.
There are so many kits available for the mini such as
stroker 2.0 kit
stroker 2.0 turbo
turbo conversion
twincharge conversion.
rotrex sc conversion
As for amd's kit no-one has bought one and its rubbish, the best stuff for the mini is coming from the states and from 1320autos.
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If you come to a corner though, he will understeer into a tree and die.
You sir, are a funny man. I burst into laughter lol.
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Don't worry I wasn't accusing you of making it up, just genuinely interested.. I am a huge mini fan (first two cars I owned were minis) and that fireball car is mental! Little investigation shows it has had bottom end and transmission work though, which is only sensible.. or as sensible as you can get in a 10 second mini :grin:
It's uncanny too how similar the stories are to the old golf IHI kits when you dig into the history of it all. Pictures of conrods blown out the side of the block galore :laugh:
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Didnt know you had a mini. I am missing mine a little, just love the sound of the supercharger. I like to keep up to date with all the goings on with mini as they are really pushing the boundaries and trying loads of different combinations which alot more tuners should be doing. :smiley:
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I think Toph's minis were "Proper" ones if you know what I mean (I'm not dissing the Binis BTW, I think they're awesome).
Nick
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Indeed, 1.0 E reg Mini Mayfair repainted cadbury blue/purple.. then a 1976 mini 1000 all original on the outside with a 1375cc motor and toph-super-bodge fezzie XR2 gearing :grin: It was so old the windscreen washers were a squeezy button on the dash, and you could operate the wipers by hand too :laugh:
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They both sound awesome mate, I'll have another one one day.
Nick
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i should have thought about it before i had ago with him really to spair the imbaressment he's running the same bhp as an astra vxr but with around 30ft/lb more torque.. and he's probaly a fair bit lighter than an astra!
im not being a vauxhall fan but to those who is slagging it i wouldnt untill you go in one like this.. it did get the power down suprisingly good and i dont know where this it understeers like a b!tch has come from (maybe because the astra and vectra dont handle) but belive me he did sh*t me up on the corners and it did stick/corner well..
300bhp would be achivable if hes running 240 with the stock turbo! god know what turbo the upgrade will be and what sort of boost it will make
i do respect the car after today.. if i was to go for a small hot hatch i think i would definetly go for the corsa
Just tell him if he wants to pick on a Golf with less mods than him then there is a fair few on here that'll stick up for there bigger brother... :grin:
Tell him there's a white Golf GTI on here that wants a crack with his Corsa and all it has is Remap and exhaust... :evil:
lmao he said when hes got stage4 with cams & limited slip diff he will meet up with anyone on here :shocked: :rolleyes:
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i should have thought about it before i had ago with him really to spair the imbaressment he's running the same bhp as an astra vxr but with around 30ft/lb more torque.. and he's probaly a fair bit lighter than an astra!
im not being a vauxhall fan but to those who is slagging it i wouldnt untill you go in one like this.. it did get the power down suprisingly good and i dont know where this it understeers like a b!tch has come from (maybe because the astra and vectra dont handle) but belive me he did sh*t me up on the corners and it did stick/corner well..
300bhp would be achivable if hes running 240 with the stock turbo! god know what turbo the upgrade will be and what sort of boost it will make
i do respect the car after today.. if i was to go for a small hot hatch i think i would definetly go for the corsa
Just tell him if he wants to pick on a Golf with less mods than him then there is a fair few on here that'll stick up for there bigger brother... :grin:
Tell him there's a white Golf GTI on here that wants a crack with his Corsa and all it has is Remap and exhaust... :evil:
lmao he said when hes got stage4 with cams & limited slip diff he will meet up with anyone on here :shocked: :rolleyes:
Jeez he needs therapy, fancy doing all that to a Vauxhall. What a waste of money IMO. Tell him to go test drive a GTI first, he'll be hooked and go and buy one!
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i should have thought about it before i had ago with him really to spair the imbaressment he's running the same bhp as an astra vxr but with around 30ft/lb more torque.. and he's probaly a fair bit lighter than an astra!
im not being a vauxhall fan but to those who is slagging it i wouldnt untill you go in one like this.. it did get the power down suprisingly good and i dont know where this it understeers like a b!tch has come from (maybe because the astra and vectra dont handle) but belive me he did sh*t me up on the corners and it did stick/corner well..
300bhp would be achivable if hes running 240 with the stock turbo! god know what turbo the upgrade will be and what sort of boost it will make
i do respect the car after today.. if i was to go for a small hot hatch i think i would definetly go for the corsa
Just tell him if he wants to pick on a Golf with less mods than him then there is a fair few on here that'll stick up for there bigger brother... :grin:
Tell him there's a white Golf GTI on here that wants a crack with his Corsa and all it has is Remap and exhaust... :evil:
lmao he said when hes got stage4 with cams & limited slip diff he will meet up with anyone on here :shocked: :rolleyes:
Lol.. I will happly meet the boy once I have had the supercharger fitted :smug: :kiss:
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C'mon then R32UK, start a supercharger thread and tell all :cool:
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yes come on R32uk or Hitler Phil will just remove it :wink:
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yes come on R32uk or Hitler Phil will just remove it :wink:
I think your more like Rene off allo allo to be honest phil :evil:
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cheers TC, nice to know im the fat one that eats all the Gerknockferst sausages! :smiley:
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yes come on R32uk or Hitler Phil will just remove it :wink:
I think your more like Rene off allo allo to be honest phil :evil:
LMAO :grin:
Your on form today TC.
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cheers TC, nice to know im the fat one that eats all the Gerknockferst sausages! :smiley:
Hmmm, sounds about right Renee err Phil :smiley:
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Off topic... but i did help a corsa take the wrong exit at a round-about this morning :grin:
I know what your thinking.. that I am evil and I shouldnt be doing that! But its ok.. he had a big exhaust and blacked out windows, not to mention trying to overtake me! Stooopid stooopid boy youth!! :smug:
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Am i the only person who feels sick travelling in vauxhalls????
No almost every owner does aswel :laugh:
What, sick of beating GTi owners on their daytoday commute? :grin: :grin:
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You must own a different Hot hatch there scott??? :rolleyes:
Its normally customery to say Hello b4 on your 1st post, if you own a Mk5 GTi then welcome, or if your just a troll then im sure your best off in your respective forum. cheers.
From one of the Moderators
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Am i the only person who feels sick travelling in vauxhalls????
No almost every owner does aswel :laugh:
What, sick of beating GTi owners on their daytoday commute? :grin: :grin:
I keep losing against Vauxhall's ( Losing the will to live.! ) :sad: :rolleyes:
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lmao he said when hes got stage4 with cams & limited slip diff he will meet up with anyone on here :shocked: :rolleyes:
He can stick a dress on it and call it Heidi Klum if he wants, IT'S STILL A CORSA.
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Am i the only person who feels sick travelling in vauxhalls????
No almost every owner does aswel :laugh:
What, sick of beating GTi owners on their daytoday commute? :grin: :grin:
thats a nice 1st post there scott
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Has his clutch exploded yet? If not it will running that power unless he upgrades it.
I used to own a Vauxhall which was pants (wasnt a VXR) had faults every other day and I had it from 3 months old and sold it when it was 2 and half years old, dont for a second regret getting the Ed30.
I use to trawl the astra forums and know a lad who had a Astra VXR running over 300hp and the engine just couldnt handle the power, turbo was leaking, clutch blew up amongst a few issues. Apparently handle like poo aswel.
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Hello Scott! Welcome to the forum!
We never said that vauxhalls are not fast.. just that they are cheap plastic crap :smiley:
Like they say.. even sh!te off a shovel is quick :wink:
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Hello Scott! Welcome to the forum!
We never said that vauxhalls are not fast.. just that they are cheap plastic crap :smiley:
Like they say.. even sh!te off a shovel is quick :wink:
got a feeling he does actually own a VW...........
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87859.0
either that or some form of car with a rubbish map :huh:
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i doubt it rhyso, hense lack of any responce from him. :rolleyes:
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i doubt it rhyso, hense lack of any responce from him. :rolleyes:
well since i posted that he's updated that thread and sadly he does own a really sh!te car with an even sh!tter remap!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
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i doubt it rhyso, hense lack of any responce from him. :rolleyes:
He is online as we speak!! Haha he actually owns a vauxhall!! :grin: :grin:
Sorry scott! Do the right thing :wink:
p.s. and he thinks a vxr is quicker round the tg track than the R32... makes sense that hes a bit of a misinformed numpty :rolleyes:
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I am sure Mr Ben would be happy to fight the VW corner against any Corsa, Astra or Vectra VXR with an OEM turbo to prove which is actually faster ;)
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I am sure Mr Ben would be happy to fight the VW corner against any Corsa, Astra or Vectra VXR with an OEM turbo to prove which is actually faster ;)
Believe it or not hes on the chat nonsense thread trying to convice a few 100 VW owners that Vauxballs are better :grin:
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Be careful boys he's been modding his car with red robin they have both gone for that pink hue respray :laugh:
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I am sure Mr Ben would be happy to fight the VW corner against any Corsa, Astra or Vectra VXR with an OEM turbo to prove which is actually faster ;)
Believe it or not hes on the chat nonsense thread trying to convice a few 100 VW owners that Vauxballs are better :grin:
Better how? Better at losing money, breaking down or gathering rust?
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I am sure Mr Ben would be happy to fight the VW corner against any Corsa, Astra or Vectra VXR with an OEM turbo to prove which is actually faster ;)
Believe it or not hes on the chat nonsense thread trying to convice a few 100 VW owners that Vauxballs are better :grin:
Better how? Better at losing money, breaking down or gathering rust?
All of the above not to mention looking like a t1t doing it! Trust me.. I own one! (although I never realised until a few weeks ago :embarassed:)
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he's suddenly gone very quiet after i posted the lap times :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Have you read this thread in VW chat VXR has landed :grin: :grin: :grin:
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As said in the nonnonononocesnet section i now have first hand experience of a Astra VXR, its awful, just awful.
and it looks like the vauxhall mans wannabe vxr.
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I got a Calibra.. :embarassed: .....BUT its very fast.. :wink:
Nick
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i doubt it rhyso, hense lack of any responce from him. :rolleyes:
well since i posted that he's updated that thread and sadly he does own a really sh!te car with an even sh!tter remap!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Hows it a sh!te remap? It gives a 33% power increase haha. Not sh!t atall. ;)
And I didn't go quiet, I went out for a drive. Beat some kids off the line at the lights. Was laughing at them in thier lil Polo... Untill I torque steered into a tree and died :(
Finally, it's not a wanna be VXR. If I wanted a VXR I would of bought one? lol. Its a quick diesel, that keeps up with, or exceeds the majority of the standard "Hot Hatchs" on the roads, ie CTR, ST's GTIs and VXRs but still gives me 40mpg ;)
I'll take you out for a spin sometime? haha
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i doubt it rhyso, hense lack of any responce from him. :rolleyes:
well since i posted that he's updated that thread and sadly he does own a really sh!te car with an even sh!tter remap!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Hows it a sh!te remap? It gives a 33% power increase haha. Not sh!t atall. ;)
And I didn't go quiet, I went out for a drive. Beat some kids off the line at the lights. Was laughing at them in thier lil Polo... Untill I torque steered into a tree and died :(
Finally, it's not a wanna be VXR. If I wanted a VXR I would of bought one? lol. Its a quick diesel, that keeps up with, or exceeds the majority of the standard "Hot Hatchs" on the roads, ie CTR, ST's GTIs and VXRs but still gives me 40mpg ;)
I'll take you out for a spin sometime? haha
Not me, but thanks anyway! I feel sick in Vauxhalls. :sick: Oh and Fords. :sick: :sick: Something to do with their build quality.....
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i doubt it rhyso, hense lack of any responce from him. :rolleyes:
well since i posted that he's updated that thread and sadly he does own a really sh!te car with an even sh!tter remap!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Hows it a sh!te remap? It gives a 33% power increase haha. Not sh!t atall. ;)
And I didn't go quiet, I went out for a drive. Beat some kids off the line at the lights. Was laughing at them in thier lil Polo... Untill I torque steered into a tree and died :(
Finally, it's not a wanna be VXR. If I wanted a VXR I would of bought one? lol. Its a quick diesel, that keeps up with, or exceeds the majority of the standard "Hot Hatchs" on the roads, ie CTR, ST's GTIs and VXRs but still gives me 40mpg ;)
I'll take you out for a spin sometime? haha
so you get peak torque for less than 100rpm? yeah great remap..........
40mpg?? i get 10mpg more than that when giving it beans in mine :smug:
and i'll decline your offer of a spin - i prefer to stay on the road :tongue:
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i doubt it rhyso, hense lack of any responce from him. :rolleyes:
well since i posted that he's updated that thread and sadly he does own a really sh!te car with an even sh!tter remap!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Its a quick diesel, that keeps up with, or exceeds the majority of the standard "Hot Hatchs" on the roads that aren't driven properly, ie CTR, ST's GTIs and VXRs but still gives me 40mpg ;)
:grin:
One of these guys that has watched Fifth Gear and is convinced that the CDTI is as quick as a VXR... :laugh: In 5th gear @ 30mph at a rev maybe, but balls out I don't think so. Have mates with both VXR and 888 and as well as the 888 goes (in certain situations) it's not as quick in s straight line.. Good on the twisties though.. :shocked:
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ScottR, To be fair them boxes are pretty sh!te, drive my car and you will agree...theyre so bigged up on AON website its ridiculous and you wont see 40mpg if you cain it, I got 100 miles from £20 of diesel which is no were near 40mpg.
It isnt even a remap, it just over fuels your engine (plugs into the common rail and over fuels like a tart). Clearly you wont hear anything bad about them on AON because Andrew is the owner of the site and DTUK. Ask Leishy on AON, she has been banned numerous times for bad mouthing them boxes. Admittedly it was fast when I had mine but didnt feel half as planted or smooth as my GTI ED30 and It cant be good to over fuel the engine, right?? Smoke like a b!tch aswel.
EDS remap all the way for them engines...
Nice car though..T8 wheels are smooth :cool: If you like it, I suppose thats all that matters.
http://www.astraownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=44898 thats my cars on AON.
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http://www.astraownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=47266
The Astra lot bad mouthing the new Golf and the Mk 5..bigging up their Astras :laugh:
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Kinda like what we're doing here then.. :tongue:
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How can they possibly say anything bad about the superior golf??
They must be the kind of people who buy value beer from tescos and pour it into empty stella cans
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was anyone else cringin when reading about vauxhalls....{shudders in silence]
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was anyone else cringin when reading about vauxhalls....{shudders in silence]
Had to take some Quells as I felt all quesy!
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They must be the kind of people who buy value beer from tescos and pour it into empty stella cans
i think its called special brew :grin:
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well i am going from VW to an Astra VXR and after driving a couple i really cant see what all the bad press is, they look good, go like sh!t and are fun to drive (you do have to work a bit but i like that in a car), the build is on a par to most VW's i have been in, i guess some people cant get over the badge. :undecided:
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Now way is a vauhall in par with the golf. Was in the back of a friends astra yesterday and had a 30 min fight with the seatbelt. It was trying to kill me i swear!! You only get what you pay for.... and those astras are kack!!
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well thats your 10ps worth, i beg to differ but hey, who cares anyway. i like them :wink:
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well thats your 10ps worth, i beg to differ but hey, who cares anyway. i like them :wink:
Well like you say.. each to their own. But if they were that good then we would all be driving them.
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well i am going from VW to an Astra VXR and after driving a couple i really cant see what all the bad press is, they look good, go like sh!t and are fun to drive (you do have to work a bit but i like that in a car), the build is on a par to most VW's i have been in, i guess some people cant get over the badge. :undecided:
You also need a flame suit to post on this thread mr brave heart. There isn't 2 many threads that reach over 10 page's good luck.
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well i am going from VW to an Astra VXR and after driving a couple i really cant see what all the bad press is, they look good, go like sh!t and are fun to drive (you do have to work a bit but i like that in a car), the build is on a par to most VW's i have been in, i guess some people cant get over the badge. :undecided:
I test drove a VXR, and in no way is the build on a par with any VW I have ever owned or test driven. You mentioned they look good, were you drunk when you wrote that? Perhaps you should have gone to Specsavers? Ugly as sin. Bounce all over the road, understeer like a hyundai and lose value quicker than a pregnant hooker.
If you want to be lablelled as a chav, go buy/own one.
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what ever, i like them and fancy a change from the vw brand.
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what ever, i like them and fancy a change from the vw brand.
Hey, each to their own, and if you like them, then hey who am I to criticise? :smiley:
You do realise though that the only pussy female attention you will get if you own a poxhall will be 14 year old's who can only come out on weekends when their 28 year old mum looks after her grandchildren?
I hear poxhall will be giving their range burberry cloth interiors soon...... :sick:
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i am married! i have already pulled a top looking lass :wink:
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I hear poxhall will be giving their range burberry cloth interiors soon...... :sick:
Lol! Now I am not a great Nohopel fan, but if they were to do that, all they would be doing is copying what VW did with the MK5 Golf GTi now wouldnt they :grin:
(http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/autoblog/hirezpics/gti_ed_30_03.jpg)
The difference would of course be in the quality of the material though :wink:
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That looks like Interlagos to me, quite a bit different to
chav uniform Burberry :wink: