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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: DEANATRON on 07 May 2008, 11:40
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Hi thinking about getting a GTI 8v MK3 within the next few weeks.
I have a ford fiesta 1.3 at the moment :grin:.
I was just wondering what the fuel consumption is like on the GTI 8v how much does it cost to fill up?
Also all the cars i have seen are really high mileage, does this matter, do they start to lose it at high mileage?
Also what are they like in general? Do they pick up well? what are they like to drive?
What the top speeds some of you guys got out of them :P:P
Also if anyone has a decent one for sale around the milton keynes/ northampton area a 3fdoor that is message me.
Hope you can help
Dean
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I wouldn't bother with the 8v personally, go 16v all the way!
On mine It's upto £50-£60 for a tank, I get about 270-300 miles averaging around 28-38 mpg (town/motorway)
I bought mine for £900 with 85K last year, now upto 103K with no serious issues, oil leak, new alternator & have done the cambelt for good measure. Everything else I've done has been cosmetic/performance improvements!
Mileage goes hand in hand with good history, so as long as it's been serviced reguarly etc. you'll be fine.
MK3's are heavy cars, probably under-powered, the 8v is only 115bhp, 16v 150bhp, & the VR is 200bhp but they arn't slow cars, plus a couple of little extras will steal you some extra horses!
The book top speed for the 16v is 137mph, & I've had mine upto 130mph before, not at all scarey! :shocked:
Whatever way you look at it's going to be an improvement over a 1.3 Fiesta, might cost you a little more to run but the benefits out way the negatives so go for it!!
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Mine costs about £44 at the moment to fill and will do 300 ish miles to a tank.
It does 30mpg if you rag it a bit but if you nice it will even out about 35 especially on longer drives and down the motorway.
Not sure what they are like after high milage, mine only has 75 on the clock. Picks up well, especially after 3500rpm, but that may just be mine :tongue:
You should get somewhere in the region of 123 out of it, but think it depends on which fuel anf of course what you have in the car.
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I wouldn't bother with the 8v personally, go 16v all the way!
Nowt wrong with the 8v matey!!
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ive had the big bhp an all that , now i have an 8v. nowt wrong with it mate ! sure theres faster cars about .....but it picks up sound enough :grin:
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Read through all the above so as not to repeat whats been said............
The mileage you will find on most will be 100k probably, but as someone said above, you'd expect paper work and stamps in the service book so you can see its been looked after etc, if its got all this AND you look after it yourself then go ahead and buy it.
My 16v has done 142k and ive only had it a month, so far loving it. I came from a 1.8 zetec escort gti and this is so much quicker and the brakes are like ten times better, the odd niggle on the escort like fuel gauge worked when it liked, non of that on my Golf, everything works spot on even though its done nearly twice the mileage of my old car.
I would get the 16v though, i mean theres virtually no price difference between the 16 and 8v i dont think, and insurance wouldnt be effected much i shouldnt think, just get some quotes from confused.com.
And petrol, mines obviously the 16v with a few mods so it should be over 160bhp and the fuel is about the same as my old standard escort gti 1.8(115bhp) :cool:
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I wouldn't bother with the 8v personally, go 16v all the way!
Nowt wrong with the 8v matey!!
Haha! Nope, nothing wrong with them, just not as much right as with the 16V :tongue:
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Oh my god- yawn. Why do people bash on about 16v's compared to 8v's?? They are both slow cars in comparison to many vehicles much more cheaply and widely available. PEOPLE DONT BUY GOLF GTI's BECAUSE OF THE 0-60 TIME. They buy them because of the build and ride quality, because they have a vw badge on the front, and most importantly because they are great to drive.
In my opinion (and yes I’m just a well educated idiot) people who say “16v’s are miles better than 8v’s†have tiny microscopic little wieners in their trousers and believe that bashing on about a slow car that is marginally faster than another slow car will somehow maketh a man of them. Hmmm. :undecided:
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Oh my god- yawn. Why do people bash on about 16v's compared to 8v's?? They are both slow cars in comparison to many vehicles much more cheaply and widely available. PEOPLE DONT BUY GOLF GTI's BECAUSE OF THE 0-60 TIME. They buy them because of the build and ride quality, because they have a vw badge on the front, and most importantly because they are great to drive.
In my opinion (and yes I’m just a well educated idiot) people who say “16v’s are miles better than 8v’s†have tiny microscopic little wieners in their trousers and believe that bashing on about a slow car that is marginally faster than another slow car will somehow maketh a man of them. Hmmm. :undecided:
Why do people like you come & get personal when someone asks for people's advice about cars? I'm sure that you have a dick the size of a walnut but that doesn't mean you have to label others the same? No one said the 16V was 'better' just that it had more horse power, & too quote myself, I said all MK3's where too heavy but still great cars! May I be as so bold as to suggest you re-consider your approach to how you want to talk to people on here if you plan to stick around?! :huh:
You've been here all of 5 mins but will do nothing but detere genuine VW enthusiastic people with that sort of attitude, so, in short, why not play nice! :afro:
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MK3's are heavy cars, probably under-powered, the 8v is only 115bhp, 16v 150bhp, & the VR is 200bhp but they arn't slow cars, plus a couple of little extras will steal you some extra horses!
The book top speed for the 16v is 137mph, & I've had mine upto 130mph before, not at all scarey! :shocked:
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Vr in the golfs is actually 174 bhp :wink:
16v is 145 to be exact haha they just round it off to 150
and yes the 8v isnt super fast :laugh: but neither are the 16v, but they are all great cars in my opinion so alls good which ever you prefere.
had mine upto 130 and it felt very stable, i have just ticked over onto 93k miles in mine, fuel consumption wise round town i see about 30 and on the motorway i see around 40, but this is driving briskly, if i drive at a steady 60 mph the MPG is very very good seen it rise to the late 40's :cool:
as long as the car has been looked after you will be fine in a mk 3 gti, look out for rust, especially on late models, door bottoms, above the windscreen and on tailgates, also look on the sills where the jack points are and on 2 door models check the sill area inside when u open the door, pull the rubber up and look, usually on the drivers side they rust, not good...
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and some of the comments on here so far have made me literally LOL :grin: :grin:
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I have a 8V and find it ok to be honest, loads better on fuel than my 2.0 vectra.
My 2.0 vectra is way better on fuel than my valver
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174BHP?? Holy hell that's weedy for a VR? Isn't is suppose to be 100bhp for every ltr?? :undecided:
Kells, you know how I admire your car! :wink:
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Please dont get me wrong, i am playing nice! :grin: i'm just sick to death of the same old same old! say something interesting!!
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my valver has clocked 134,000 miles and still pulls well, not bad on fuel but then i didn't buy it for economy, i got it cos i like mk3's, it's the 2nd one i've owned and both have been reliable apart from cosmetic stuff like radiators, etc.....i am considering getting a mk2 as well but will always favour my valver.......buy it mate, u can't go wrong!
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174BHP?? Holy hell that's weedy for a VR? Isn't is suppose to be 100bhp for every ltr?? :undecided:
Kells, you know how I admire your car! :wink:
hehe i know you do matey, appreciate your comments always :wink:, a fellow black golf owner :cool:
and yeah they are 174, corrados are more powerfull ones..
you got yours looking the bees knees now too aint ya :cool:
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In short MK3's are great, more GTi than a MK4 and cheaper, just that little bit more modern than a MK2 but perhaps a little less GTi'ness! I love mine & have no plans of changing it yet! :afro:
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you got yours looking the bees knees now too aint ya :cool:
Getting there, next weekend should be about done weather permitting! :wink:
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In short MK3's are great, more GTi than a MK4 and cheaper, just that little bit more modern than a MK2 but perhaps a little less GTi'ness! I love mine & have no plans of changing it yet! :afro:
That's what i was trying to say!!!
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Welcome back then dude!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
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alrighdy, i'm back in the circle of trust! :laugh:
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alrighdy, i'm back in the circle of trust! :laugh:
I didnt like how you spoke either, anyone would think your one of those people who join a forum purely to course trouble from that reply, thats how you came across to me anyway.
Not picking a fight, just saying.
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My 1997 5 door 8v GTi P reg Golf has 180mile on the clock and runs mint. The guy I got it off said it had had a rebuild and serviced it himself like i do. It was abit of trust on my side but he had just finished restoring his Bettle and obviously new his stuff and it ran sweet and didnt smoke at all.
I service the golf myself every 5000km, and she runs great. It costs £50 to fill up and a tank lasts a week, my wife drives from Horsham to Esher for work which is about a 45min-1hour drive each way + any other driving around twn and...yeah...a week!
Its my first VW and definatly not the fastest car I have ever owned but its lowered on 17s on 40 series tyres and handles like a go-cart and looks nice in Dragon Green!
If anyones interested it will be for sale soon as the Wifey and I are heading back home to NZ in October.
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well i think if 9the chap is going from a fiesta then a 2.0 8v will feel quick enough tbh... i think ml3's are the best all rounder, and I struggle to think of any performance (ish) car that i would buy for £1k that would be as good at as many things....
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alrighdy, i'm back in the circle of trust! :laugh:
I didnt like how you spoke either, anyone would think your one of those people who join a forum purely to course trouble from that reply, thats how you came across to me anyway.
Not picking a fight, just saying.
You didnt like what i said? Not a problem, its a free country and thats what makes it great. I can assure you i'm not in the habit of causing trouble anywhere, let alone on a forum. this is the first time i've spoken out against 8 valvism (as i've named it). :nerd:
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save up and get a r32 thats my advice :evil:
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anyway got the car its in purple 93 k on the clock most perfect body i have ever seen got full service history last serviced 2k ago seriously the mintest car for its age i seen also got full set of mudflaps angel eye headlight clear fogs and side repeaters and k&n induction kit for £1000 that sound about right also had a full years mot and tax till jan on it
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gets some pics posted up them fella
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I think the 8 Valve is more for people who want the fantastic looks and build quality of a golf, but also want a realy good engine with plenty of poke, of course you get the added bonus of all the GTI gear.
The 16 valve is a bit more of a performance thing, Not only do you get the poke you get a high reving fun enging which is great if you realy like to rag it about from time to time :smiley: (not saying you cant rag an 8 valve there :D:D:D)
And then there is th VR6 for pure cruizing pleasuer and mental sound+performance.
Ok they arnt as fast as some engines of the equivelent size, but thats not the point the fact its a golf makes up for all of that. Personaly i have only had a MK2 16V and i loved it! the 8V doesnt have that same fun factor on the track or when your beating about but on road use its still a 2.0L with great bottom end and enough poke to shift you!!... and of course fantastic reliability. Its only when you start driving 1.4 and 1.8 golfs u realise how good the 8V engine is for what it is... as long as you dont compare it to a 2.0L Vtec or something :wink: