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General => Cosmetic and bodywork matters => Topic started by: Benny T on 26 March 2008, 20:03
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Thinking of getting remote central locking on my mk3 gti. Anyone got any advice from experiance? is it worth it?
Seen a few kits on ebay going for a resonable price.
Comments appreciated! :wink:
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is that those £30 kits that you connect to your central locking in your car to give in Remote! I have one of them and csn't fit it. They give you a control box with 10 different coloured wires coming out of it and these somehow connect to the central locking in your car.
I got out the pump in the boot, and unplugged the loom. It is a 12 wire loom, so wtf!!!
the 10 wires from the kit are for - 6 for central locking, 2 for power (-ve/+ve), then 1 for lights and 1 for trunk release.
They give you sh!tty instructions which i dont understand. I even asked an auto electrician how much to fit - they said it would take a few hours so £70!!!!! so much for easy to install.
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Yo,
Have you already got central locking (it's just not remote?) or have you not got central locking at all, and while you're at it you might aswell get remote?
I put remote/central locking in my mk3 1.4 and I have to say it was a hell of a lot easier than i thought it would be.
All you do is hide away the main box (which is only about 3" x 3") out of the way in the dash somewhere, run all of the solenoids to this box and using the link below simply push the connectors together.
At the door you screw a metal strip roughly where you need the solenoid to be, attach the solenoid to this strip and angle it so that the the metal wire screws against the locking mechanism itself and once it's locked it plunges the solenoid.
This then sends a message to the main central locking box (which you've hidden away) and tells it to lock/unlock all other doors. Repeat this process for all doors/boots. The only problem I had was attaching a solenoid to the boot as it doesn't work by metal wire and it's a solid kinda unit, so if you really want to do it you've need to drill into the little plate attached and angle the solenoid so that it triggers.
It probably took me about an hour to do both doors..
This link here, being as cheap as it is, may look abit shoddy/rubbish/cheap and nasty etc etc, but I have to say that this kit hasn't let me down, it's a very quick lock and unlock (unlike some of my friends mk3 central locking as standard) and if you read all the balls about why it's better than all the rest it's quite impressive..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-REMOTE-KEYLESS-CENTRAL-DOOR-LOCKING-KIT-2008_W0QQitemZ330222276200QQihZ014QQcategoryZ75329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I'm babbling on about if you havn't actually got central locking in the first place btw, if not then you need to get something like http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Falcon-Phaser-Remote-Control-Central-Locking-Upgrade_W0QQitemZ280210714730QQihZ018QQcategoryZ75329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
which I can't really vouch for...
Hope this helps
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Yo,
Have you already got central locking (it's just not remote?) or have you not got central locking at all, and while you're at it you might aswell get remote?
I put remote/central locking in my mk3 1.4 and I have to say it was a hell of a lot easier than i thought it would be.
All you do is hide away the main box (which is only about 3" x 3") out of the way in the dash somewhere, run all of the solenoids to this box and using the link below simply push the connectors together.
At the door you screw a metal strip roughly where you need the solenoid to be, attach the solenoid to this strip and angle it so that the the metal wire screws against the locking mechanism itself and once it's locked it plunges the solenoid.
This then sends a message to the main central locking box (which you've hidden away) and tells it to lock/unlock all other doors. Repeat this process for all doors/boots. The only problem I had was attaching a solenoid to the boot as it doesn't work by metal wire and it's a solid kinda unit, so if you really want to do it you've need to drill into the little plate attached and angle the solenoid so that it triggers.
It probably took me about an hour to do both doors..
This link here, being as cheap as it is, may look abit shoddy/rubbish/cheap and nasty etc etc, but I have to say that this kit hasn't let me down, it's a very quick lock and unlock (unlike some of my friends mk3 central locking as standard) and if you read all the balls about why it's better than all the rest it's quite impressive..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-REMOTE-KEYLESS-CENTRAL-DOOR-LOCKING-KIT-2008_W0QQitemZ330222276200QQihZ014QQcategoryZ75329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I'm babbling on about if you havn't actually got central locking in the first place btw, if not then you need to get something like http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Falcon-Phaser-Remote-Control-Central-Locking-Upgrade_W0QQitemZ280210714730QQihZ018QQcategoryZ75329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
which I can't really vouch for...
Hope this helps
Mate i just wanna say thanks for the great explanation! It really helped! Yes my car has got central locking. I'm a real novice at doing stuff like this but hopefully i can use my common sense and work it out! :laugh: I'll have a look at the kit you put a link to and hopefully fit one soon. Will keep you updated and give you a shout if i have any problems, if that's ok.... thanks again! :cool:
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Got a question for you 45h. Do you know if its possible to wire it to an alarm too? cos the remotes got an alarm botton hasn't it?... :smiley:
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Hey that's cool, It's not often I say anything with confidence or any form of knowledge lol..
I have no idea where in the mk3 the central locking main unit or box is, but I'm pretty sure there should be two unconnected wires (+ and -) which will allow you to connect either a third party alarm or the remote upgrade to it.
Me being me (not the most logical of thinkers) I would disconnect the standard central locking you've got now completely and go for something like
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-ALARM-REMOTE-START-WITH-4-DOOR-CENTRAL-LOCKING-KIT_W0QQitemZ360035192552QQihZ023QQcategoryZ75329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
because this is the central locking, remote and the alarm all built into 1. I really can't stress how good 'Hawk' are (I sound like I'm trying to sell it lol)
but yeah I'm pretty sure most central locking units will have these 2 wires which you can then attach to another unit, then the unit will trigger the central locking to lock or unlock as when you arm/disarm the alarm
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hey if i send you the instructions, can you direct me? i just dont understand them.
cheers m8,
LL ;)
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Hey that's cool, It's not often I say anything with confidence or any form of knowledge lol..
I have no idea where in the mk3 the central locking main unit or box is, but I'm pretty sure there should be two unconnected wires (+ and -) which will allow you to connect either a third party alarm or the remote upgrade to it.
Me being me (not the most logical of thinkers) I would disconnect the standard central locking you've got now completely and go for something like
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-ALARM-REMOTE-START-WITH-4-DOOR-CENTRAL-LOCKING-KIT_W0QQitemZ360035192552QQihZ023QQcategoryZ75329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
because this is the central locking, remote and the alarm all built into 1. I really can't stress how good 'Hawk' are (I sound like I'm trying to sell it lol)
but yeah I'm pretty sure most central locking units will have these 2 wires which you can then attach to another unit, then the unit will trigger the central locking to lock or unlock as when you arm/disarm the alarm
Think im gonna go for the alarm kit! but because it comes with an immobilizer too will i have to disconnnect my current standard immobilizer? is that possible? cheers, Ben
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Ive ordered the kit! hopefully won't take long to come. I forgot to say its for a golf gti mk3 to them in the order notes as they said they could supply fitting instructions for different cars, did yours come with the golf ones?
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hey thats kl which did u go for in the end? The hawk 1's came with general instructions because it's not really anything that integrates with what the car already has if that makes sense, whereas the upgrade obviously wires into the golfs existing components - ill have a look at my instructions when i get home tonight, i havent been home for days :shocked:
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hey thats kl which did u go for in the end? The hawk 1's came with general instructions because it's not really anything that integrates with what the car already has if that makes sense, whereas the upgrade obviously wires into the golfs existing components - ill have a look at my instructions when i get home tonight, i havent been home for days :shocked:
Went for the Halk alarm, imobilizer and central locking kit, £40 odd. Thought i might as well get it all at once. Working away have ya? :laugh:
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iv got the kit :smiley:any advice on getting the door cards off before i start?
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Been round my girlfriends quite alot :embarassed: lol Have you got electric windows or manual? If manual remove the winder by sliding the clip on the base of the winder outwards and the handle comes right off - if not simply remove the door card by sliding the card upwards (might be slightly stiff) there's little hooks that keep the door card on when you push it back down..
You need to pull the 'loom' that comes with the package (the bunch of wires which should have a long plastic connection on 1 end) through to both/ all 4 doors by going behind the dash above the footwells, with the plastic connection ending up in the space tucked up above the front passenger footwell - you can then get through to the battery from there through 1 of the holes in the engine wall.
You should be able to thread the cables through the existic holes/tube from main car to door and connect each wire up to the solenoids using the clips which are attached.. Because I didn't have electric windows or central locking I had to make my own tube to go from car to door.
Wire the whole lot up (the instructions should help alot) and off you go!
Hit any probs at all?
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Ok got the door cards off! with a bit of a pull! :smiley: they were held on with these kinda rivits. Pealed back this plastic stuff and connected the pump to the door, then it got dark! lol
I connected the new rod to the old one which pulls the door pin down, one is working fine and the other hardly moves at all... so i dunno if it needs adjusting. The original door rod is pretty small isnt it and really fiddly getting it on, does all this soud rit? I would post a picture but i dont know how..?
How is the boot connected? is it rods? The boot sounds a bit more complicated :laugh:
Under the thumb is it! lol know how you feel!
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sorry to hijack but ....
is it possible to connect some sort of remote unit direct to the air pump (mk3 gti)
work out which wires are the ones that power the pump for locking and unlocking ?
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Been round my girlfriends quite alot :embarassed: lol Have you got electric windows or manual? If manual remove the winder by sliding the clip on the base of the winder outwards and the handle comes right off - if not simply remove the door card by sliding the card upwards (might be slightly stiff) there's little hooks that keep the door card on when you push it back down..
You need to pull the 'loom' that comes with the package (the bunch of wires which should have a long plastic connection on 1 end) through to both/ all 4 doors by going behind the dash above the footwells, with the plastic connection ending up in the space tucked up above the front passenger footwell - you can then get through to the battery from there through 1 of the holes in the engine wall.
You should be able to thread the cables through the existic holes/tube from main car to door and connect each wire up to the solenoids using the clips which are attached.. Because I didn't have electric windows or central locking I had to make my own tube to go from car to door.
Wire the whole lot up (the instructions should help alot) and off you go!
Hit any probs at all?
I forgot something! what about the petrol flap? thats works off the central locking too
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The golf rod of the lock is really small and fiddly yeah... if you've got big hands you're gnna find it slightly more difficult than usual lol..
The boot doesnt use a rod at all, as far as I can remember there's a plate on the outside of the mechanism which is dark grey/black. This is solid and moves freely attached to the lock itself, so something I thought about doing was drilling a small hole in this plate, putting some sort of pin through the hole and attaching the solenoid in the same way you do normal locks, but instead of connecting to the door fiddly rod connect to the pin you've put in there.. (tell me if that doesnt make sense). Screw the mechano-looking piece in the usual way and you should be on your way...
I'm not priviledged enough to own a gti :angry: So i'm afraid I'm gnna be unable to help with the petrol cap!
GavGti - if you look in like the second or third posts you'll see an ebay link or 2, 1 of them is for a remote upgrade kit, that's the kind of thing you need..
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basically i could of got the remote upgrade kit then cos iv already got central locking :angry:
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Sorry benny t i thought u knew.. i said if it were me, because i thnk new central locking wud beat golf standard hands down..
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Sorry benny t i thought u knew.. i said if it were me, because i thnk new central locking wud beat golf standard hands down..
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no worries man,have you got a link to it? im gonna get a pro to do it all, theres to many wires and i cant be arsed to mess around with it all.
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a link to what buddy?
where bouts are you based? the remote + actual central locking only took me a couple of hours.. the wires should be quite easy with the instructions
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a link to what buddy?
where bouts are you based? the remote + actual central locking only took me a couple of hours.. the wires should be quite easy with the instructions
Based in Gloucester mate, Bout you?
Would you be able to send me a pic of how you connected the boot one up. I don't know where to place it to screw it on, everywhere is only thin metal and will go through the otherside to the number plate :huh:, shal i put a block there?
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if there isnt a frame to screw the holding plate to then put a block there yeah - dont go through your boot otherwise that'll pretty much screw up your bodywork..
i didnt do the boot, but drill a hole in that plate then put the rod through and connect it in the normal way - the only problem is finding somewhere to put the long strip to support the solenoid
im based in cambridge - how far's that from where u r?