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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Kermit on 15 March 2008, 21:16

Title: Bloody rust....
Post by: Kermit on 15 March 2008, 21:16
Not sure of the correct terminology here but there is rust on the piece of metal that sits behind the wheel but in front of the disc break and calipers (the bit the wheel screws into) - has anyone else got this problem as it looks sh!te and seems to be getting worse?  Car is only 7 months old with 11K so is this something I can complain about and get rectified under warranty?

Also, while I'm on talking about rust - anyone got recommendations on how to keep the tail pipe nice and mint - mines looking a bit nasty at the moment and finding it difficult to get the crap off it.  Will a metal polish work?
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: stevieC on 15 March 2008, 21:21
Rusting hubs most gti's suffer from this mine included going to see if vw will rectify this under warrenty.
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Kermit on 15 March 2008, 21:24
Cool... let me know how you get on.  I'm in the stealers on Thursday so I might ring up on Monday and see.  I'll post the response.  I don't ever remember owning a car with such a problem.
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Phil mcavity on 15 March 2008, 21:25
my GTi had this, and dealer resprayed the hubs. My 2nd GTi also has this, only done 900 odd miles and rust is there. Dealer again has had this repaired under warranty with absolutely no questions.
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: TagnuT on 15 March 2008, 21:35
I painted the hubs myself. Was looking at a 56 plate R32 today and it was the same.

WD40 gets your tail pipes nice and clean. The crud just wipes off  :cool:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: T88OMM on 15 March 2008, 23:45
As everyone says rusting hubs are common, best thing to do is to paint them yourself with a tough metal paint. The best thing for the tailpipes is Meguiars NXT Metal Polish which you can get in Halfords, brings them up really nice and shiny  :smiley:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Hurdy on 16 March 2008, 00:13
As everyone says rusting hubs are common, best thing to do is to paint them yourself with a tough metal paint. The best thing for the tailpipes is Meguiars NXT Metal Polish which you can get in Halfords, brings them up really nice and shiny  :smiley:

Or get a brake upgrade :wink: then they are alloy :cool:

Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: RedRobin on 16 March 2008, 00:16
As everyone says rusting hubs are common, best thing to do is to paint them yourself with a tough metal paint. The best thing for the tailpipes is Meguiars NXT Metal Polish which you can get in Halfords, brings them up really nice and shiny  :smiley:

Or get a brake upgrade :wink: then they are alloy :cool:

....Now, now! Hurdy! You're not encouraging others onto the slippery slope of modding are you? :evil: :wink:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Hurdy on 16 March 2008, 00:18
As everyone says rusting hubs are common, best thing to do is to paint them yourself with a tough metal paint. The best thing for the tailpipes is Meguiars NXT Metal Polish which you can get in Halfords, brings them up really nice and shiny  :smiley:

Or get a brake upgrade :wink: then they are alloy :cool:

....Now, now! Hurdy! You're not encouraging others onto the slippery slope of modding are you? :evil: :wink:

Moi? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: RedRobin on 16 March 2008, 00:25
....They are called 'bells' but mine didn't go rusty:-

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/OEM_Brake1.jpg)


And then I changed them to these:-

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_Brake2.jpg)
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: 08micsta on 16 March 2008, 17:29
Stop tempting everyone Robin  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: telboy on 16 March 2008, 17:35
....They are called 'bells' but mine didn't go rusty:-

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/OEM_Brake1.jpg)


And then I changed them to these:-

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_Brake2.jpg)

Doh! Really like the look of the AP's, would it be rude to ask how much they set you back, roughly of course!!! :evil:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: RedRobin on 16 March 2008, 18:07

Doh! Really like the look of the AP's, would it be rude to ask how much they set you back, roughly of course!!! :evil:

....Er, I would have to shoot you afterwards because I was asked by AP not to say :cool:. I played a very minor part in their development for the Mk5 GTI and was rewarded generously. Their usual price is about £1,700 for a set of fronts - they fit both 17's and 18's Monzas.
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: telboy on 16 March 2008, 20:32

Doh! Really like the look of the AP's, would it be rude to ask how much they set you back, roughly of course!!! :evil:

....Er, I would have to shoot you afterwards because I was asked by AP not to say :cool:. I played a very minor part in their development for the Mk5 GTI and was rewarded generously. Their usual price is about £1,700 for a set of fronts - they fit both 17's and 18's Monzas.
Oh well then, time to sell an organ, pretty much the same price as Brembos then ?????

Any opinions on which suits the GTI the best? :huh:

Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Hurdy on 16 March 2008, 21:43

Doh! Really like the look of the AP's, would it be rude to ask how much they set you back, roughly of course!!! :evil:

....Er, I would have to shoot you afterwards because I was asked by AP not to say :cool:. I played a very minor part in their development for the Mk5 GTI and was rewarded generously. Their usual price is about £1,700 for a set of fronts - they fit both 17's and 18's Monzas.
Oh well then, time to sell an organ, pretty much the same price as Brembos then ?????

Any opinions on which suits the GTI the best? :huh:



Have you considered TAROX?
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: telboy on 16 March 2008, 22:16

Doh! Really like the look of the AP's, would it be rude to ask how much they set you back, roughly of course!!! :evil:

....Er, I would have to shoot you afterwards because I was asked by AP not to say :cool:. I played a very minor part in their development for the Mk5 GTI and was rewarded generously. Their usual price is about £1,700 for a set of fronts - they fit both 17's and 18's Monzas.
Oh well then, time to sell an organ, pretty much the same price as Brembos then ?????

Any opinions on which suits the GTI the best? :huh:



Have you considered TAROX?

No not yet, any info/links worth reviewing?
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Cass on 16 March 2008, 22:31
Thread back on track :rolleyes:

Unlikely that dealer will replace the discs under warranty unless the car is relatively new - cheap metal in discs these days and production cost cutting means they are always likely to rust, especially in a UK climate :embarassed: My discs are rusty and dealer wouldn't budge :angry:

Had the same issue with my old Boxster and as the brakes functioned properly, I only got them replaced when the inboard rears rusted badly on the disc surface.

I find Solvol Autosol takes care of the rear zorst tips no problem :smug: Just tear off a 2" x 8" piece of fabric and use a sawing action to clean/polish around each tip :wink:

Cass
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: RedRobin on 16 March 2008, 23:04
Thread back on track :rolleyes:

Cass


....Sorry, Cass! You may have noticed that it happens a lot when I post in a thread :evil:. It's not actually ever my intention though.....Honest! :smiley:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: speedynz on 17 March 2008, 10:00
If you've let your tailpipes go to the dogs (grimy with heat soak tarnishing?) thjen a little the "Solvol Autosol' simply won't do the job. You're not the only one who has had a job cleaning built up crap off your tailpipes, it's another 'GTI' quirk.

Try very fine sandpaper followed by wire wool (wire wool alone won't do it if it's bad) and then use a metal polisher (Solvol Autosol is fine at this stage).

The tailpipes won't stay clean but a weekly 3-5 minutes with the aforementioned method will keep them looking immaculate.
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Hurdy on 17 March 2008, 10:07
If you've let your tailpipes go to the dogs (grimy with heat soak tarnishing?) thjen a little the "Solvol Autosol' simply won't do the job. You're not the only one who has had a job cleaning built up crap off your tailpipes, it's another 'GTI' quirk.

Try very fine sandpaper followed by wire wool (wire wool alone won't do it if it's bad) and then use a metal polisher (Solvol Autosol is fine at this stage).

The tailpipes won't stay clean but a weekly 3-5 minutes with the aforementioned method will keep them looking immaculate.

Or you could get these and find yourself becoming OCD with cleaning them every other day :embarassed:

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/hlight013.jpg)
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: duzza on 17 March 2008, 11:03
If you've let your tailpipes go to the dogs (grimy with heat soak tarnishing?) thjen a little the "Solvol Autosol' simply won't do the job. You're not the only one who has had a job cleaning built up crap off your tailpipes, it's another 'GTI' quirk.

Try very fine sandpaper followed by wire wool (wire wool alone won't do it if it's bad) and then use a metal polisher (Solvol Autosol is fine at this stage).

The tailpipes won't stay clean but a weekly 3-5 minutes with the aforementioned method will keep them looking immaculate.

Good tip! Mine are shot, megs and wd40 wouldnt even touch them on Saturday when I tried. Will give this a go.
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Kermit on 17 March 2008, 14:46
Cool - thanks for all the replies- certainly some decent info - looks like I better invest in a few bits and bobs and get some decent elbow grease on the job - might do a before and after photo if I can be bothered  :grin:

As for the hubs I'll let you know how I get on.
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Cass on 17 March 2008, 17:09
Thread back on track :rolleyes:

Cass


....Sorry, Cass! You may have noticed that it happens a lot when I post in a thread :evil:. It's not actually ever my intention though.....Honest! :smiley:

Love those big AP Racing discs and calipers RR :drool:

Cass
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: RedRobin on 17 March 2008, 18:27
Thread back on track :rolleyes:

Cass


....Sorry, Cass! You may have noticed that it happens a lot when I post in a thread :evil:. It's not actually ever my intention though.....Honest! :smiley:

Love those big AP Racing discs and calipers RR :drool:

Cass


....Thanx  :smiley:

I love their stopping power too!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: - Five Star Awesome!

I visited a car wash today - No, don't panic!! Not a drive-through but a hand brush and handheld jet wash, just to get the main dirt off before a tender loving RR handwash with various scented products by Meguiar's. Anyroadup, I nearly got the small brush head stuck in the hole of one of my rear Monza 18's with standard brakes and knocked the caliper quite hard.

Driving away, the first time I braked it sounded like I had caught a tin can under the car! So I stopped and checked and saw nothing. Carried on and heard squeaking and rubbing. Had another inspection but couldn't see anything wrong. So I decided to go and test the brakes properly: Hard on (the brakes!!) at 90 - 20 mph, flip the paddles a couple of gearshifts and accelerate and do the same again. Although I made sure there weren't any other vehicles near me, a car well behind decided to stay even further behind!! Yes, those front AP brakes are faultless.

 
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Kermit on 20 March 2008, 19:01
Had the car in the stealers today (4 new Monzas) - asked about the hubs and they said they can't rectify under warranty - they were having none of it  :angry:

Anyone know of any dealers in the North west that replaced or sprayed the hubs as I think I'll be asking elsewhere  :grin:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Phil mcavity on 20 March 2008, 19:06
mines booked in nxt tuesday to have all 4 done under warranty. If your down south then come to my local dealer for a free hub respray! :smug:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: 182_blue on 20 March 2008, 19:11
....They are called 'bells' but mine didn't go rusty:-



And then I changed them to these:-

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_Brake2.jpg)

Doh! Really like the look of the AP's, would it be rude to ask how much they set you back, roughly of course!!! :evil:

yeh, i had ally top hats on my ST


(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/IMG_0928.jpg)
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: G864 TST on 30 March 2008, 19:24
Just noticed my "bells" are gettin a wee bit orange as well!!
What's the best first course of action - elbow grease and a rub with what?

What's safe to use on that piece of the car?

Not a mark on my wheels but orangy bells  :sad:

CT
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: TagnuT on 31 March 2008, 07:46
I was looking at a brand new S3 in the showroom yesterday £31.100 withe the extras.  :shocked:

Had a look through the wheels and the disk bells were going rusty already!!! :sick:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: froggy on 01 April 2008, 20:10
Got the same problem mate on 07 GTI. Went to local dealer (CM23) and was told to bring it in and that they'll sort it out - under warranty!
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: TeddyKGB on 01 April 2008, 20:11
I'm prolly gonna paint mine meself this summer, they've just started goin I think

Anyone recommend what to paint them with?
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: 182_blue on 01 April 2008, 20:14
I'm prolly gonna paint mine meself this summer, they've just started goin I think

Anyone recommend what to paint them with?

smooth hammerite will do it, or get some proper brake paint
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: G864 TST on 01 April 2008, 22:08
It's kinda bummin me right out - I'm so fussy with cleaning my GTI and to have rusty bells is just sh*t!

To be honest I'm even paranoid about letting the dealer spray it

Anyone got a magic cloth that just wipes it all away  :huh:

CT
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: JoeGTI on 01 April 2008, 22:37
I tried spray painting mine with silver heat-resistant paint (only the rears though - my fronts seem pretty OK).
It was easier said than done I thought. Perhaps down to my total lack of DIY skills, but I found the paint "ran" easily, leaving some streaking... and it has already started to peel off and rust again!

Would I be better off using a small brush and some hammerite as others have suggested?
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Phil mcavity on 02 April 2008, 16:12
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s264/philmcavity/GTIhubrepair006.jpg)

my local dealers effort to repaint under warranty F.O.C  :smiley:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Cass on 02 April 2008, 16:23
my local dealers effort to repaint under warranty F.O.C  :smiley:

Good job - still got a rusty bottom suspension joint though :rolleyes:

Cass
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Phil mcavity on 02 April 2008, 16:52
my local dealers effort to repaint under warranty F.O.C  :smiley:

Good job - still got a rusty bottom suspension joint though :rolleyes:

Cass

Ok ill let em off that one  :laugh:. oh while your there VW just respray every bolt head on the car so it doesnt corrode :laugh: oh my my aluminum heat shields are corroding, they need treating!.I think they might tell me to take a long walk off a short pier  :smiley:
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: TeddyKGB on 02 April 2008, 21:29
Phil do you know what they painted yours with? That's quite a good effect/colour
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Phil mcavity on 03 April 2008, 17:21
im not sure, it looks more whiter in the pics but looks just like grey primer in the flesh. they did the same to my 1st golf and even after a year there was no sign of any more corrosion coming through.Although this time they went abit OTT by doing the edges of the brake discs!.
Title: Re: Bloody rust....
Post by: Sweeney on 04 April 2008, 19:00
Hmm now theres an interesting little mod i may consider, rust or no rust!

Painted brake disc edges, could be the new craze! ;)