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Title: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Peskarik on 25 February 2008, 11:21
Hi all,

Was just reading about Novidem 350Z with a compressor (380hp, 430Nm).
There are in-gear times from tests of this car (in kmh and seconds):
40-80kmh
in 4th: 4.8,
in 5th: 6.9,
in 6th: 11.4sek

80-120kmh
in 4th: 3.8,
in 5th: 5.4,
in 6th: 8.5sek

The only in-gear time I found for E30 was from the article on Bluefin, 80mph-100mph in 6th: 4.3sek

Anybody has any figures for in-gear times for E30, please?

Also, what do you think about 350Z, someone gotta have driven/owned one.

Finally, just to let you know, Novidem also makes conversions of R32 and Audi TT 3.2 (www.novidem.ch)
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: R32UK on 25 February 2008, 16:38
I like the sound of the 350bhp golf!!! 0-60 5.4sec sounds right up my street!!

Only problem is the rest of the sheet seems to be in German.. i only managed to pick out "brutal"... which sounds good to me! Dont fancy translating do you P??
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Hurdy on 25 February 2008, 16:43
I like the sound of the 350bhp golf!!! 0-60 5.4sec sounds right up my street!!

Only problem is the rest of the sheet seems to be in German.. i only managed to pick out "brutal"... which sounds good to me! Dont fancy translating do you P??

That 0-60 time for a 350bhp golf must be wrong surely? either that or extreme sandbagging! If a standard ED30 golf DSG can get 0-60 in 5.66, then another 100+ bhp must give more than 0.26 seconds difference :shocked:.

Peskarik,

I can't find modified ED 30 times but I'll have a look through my back catalogue :smiley:
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: R32UK on 25 February 2008, 17:06
I like the sound of the 350bhp golf!!! 0-60 5.4sec sounds right up my street!!

Only problem is the rest of the sheet seems to be in German.. i only managed to pick out "brutal"... which sounds good to me! Dont fancy translating do you P??

That 0-60 time for a 350bhp golf must be wrong surely? either that or extreme sandbagging! If a standard ED30 golf DSG can get 0-60 in 5.66, then another 100+ bhp must give more than 0.26 seconds difference :shocked:.

Peskarik,



I can't find modified ED 30 times but I'll have a look through my back catalogue :smiley:



Im sure it would be more than that also... but in the wet that would be pretty impressive :smug:
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Peskarik on 25 February 2008, 18:35

Peskarik,

I can't find modified ED 30 times but I'll have a look through my back catalogue :smiley:


Thanks Hurdy, I appreciate that.
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Hurdy on 25 February 2008, 19:56

Peskarik,

I can't find modified ED 30 times but I'll have a look through my back catalogue :smiley:


Thanks Hurdy, I appreciate that.

Sorry Peskarik!

I can't find anything in my back catalogue of magazines either :embarassed:

Only the superchips piece and like you say, that doesn't give much info either.

Hmmm, it's time we got some kind of performance testing day sorted :undecided:
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Peskarik on 26 February 2008, 10:40

Peskarik,

I can't find modified ED 30 times but I'll have a look through my back catalogue :smiley:


Thanks Hurdy, I appreciate that.

Sorry Peskarik!

I can't find anything in my back catalogue of magazines either :embarassed:

Only the superchips piece and like you say, that doesn't give much info either.

Hmmm, it's time we got some kind of performance testing day sorted :undecided:

it's about bloody time, I'd say!
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: The Wheel Man on 26 February 2008, 13:02
I seem to remember EVO doing a hot hatch group test with a GTI, VXR, Civic etc.  Im also pretty sure they had full performance figures tested back to back with the other cars.

Only problem is that i dont seem to be able to find it on their site, :sad: definatly in 2007 if anyone keeps the old issues..
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Hurdy on 26 February 2008, 17:50
Wheelman,

I do have that in my back catalogue, but it was for the standard unmapped GTI and not a remapped ED30 (March 2007 EVO)
The nearest I can find is for the standard S3, which is slightly heavier than the ED30, but has (officially!) 35ps extra. So a remapped ED30 would be faster for all increments. The S3 was tested as follows (MPH)

0-30  1.8sec
0-40  3.1sec
0-50  4.0sec
0-60  5.6sec
0-70  7.1 sec
0-80  8.9sec
0-90  11.2sec
0-100 13.6sec
0-110 17sec
0-120 20.8sec
0-130 25.4sec

1/4mile 14secs at 102mph

In gear times

in 2nd
20-40  2.2
30-50  2.1

in 3rd
20-40  3.4
30-50  2.9
40-60  2.8
50-70  2.9
60-80  3.4

in 4th
20-40   5.4
30-50   4.1
40-60   3.6
50-70   3.7
60-80   3.8
70-90   4.1
80-100  4.6
90-110  5.6

in 5th
20-40   8.5
30-50   6.5
40-60   5.3
50-70   4.9
60-80   5.1
70-90   5.3
80-100  5.6
90-110  6.1
100-120 6.9

in 6th
20-40   11.7
30-50   9.9
40-60   7.9
50-70   6.7
60-80   6.4
70-90   6.8
80-100  7.5
90-110  8.0

Oh, and it beat all the others for performance in the test - Brera V6, BMW 130i and Mazda 3MPS.

Just to add more food for thought. I've driven a standard S3 - and it is wayyyyyy slower than my remapped ED30 for the in-gear times :evil:

Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Peskarik on 26 February 2008, 19:23
Thanks Hurdy!

Yeah, S3 may be slower, but it is also underpowered compared to yours. If it had 300+ hp I wonder what kind of times one could get. And don't mention the war.. err I mean the wet.  :smiley:

You see, it beats Mazda 3 MPS, which has 260hp and 380Nm!
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Hurdy on 26 February 2008, 19:29
Thanks Hurdy!

Yeah, S3 may be slower, but it is also underpowered compared to yours. If it had 300+ hp I wonder what kind of times one could get. And don't mention the war.. err I mean the wet.  :smiley:

I reckon that the straight-line in-gear times would be very similar between a remapped ED30 and a remapped S3 as they would both have similar power, the S3 is slightly heavier, but then counters with the 4WD.I would have to give this one to the ED30.

 Over the twisties I have no doubt that the S3 would be the faster tool, although the DSG gearbox on the ED30 counters slightly as it means you can concentrate on the road and not the gears.

 In the wet, then it would be the S3 that easily has the point-to-point performance edge.
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Peskarik on 26 February 2008, 19:33
Thanks Hurdy!

Yeah, S3 may be slower, but it is also underpowered compared to yours. If it had 300+ hp I wonder what kind of times one could get. And don't mention the war.. err I mean the wet.  :smiley:

I reckon that the straight-line in-gear times would be very similar between a remapped ED30 and a remapped S3 as they would both have similar power, the S3 is slightly heavier, but then counters with the 4WD.I would have to give this one to the ED30.

 Over the twisties I have no doubt that the S3 would be the faster tool, although the DSG gearbox on the ED30 counters slightly as it means you can concentrate on the road and not the gears.

 In the wet, then it would be the S3 that easily has the point-to-point performance edge.

So, basically, what you need is a straight, pothole-less and dry road, and then you take S3 for a liiitle ride.
That's not much, but hey, S3 costs very much more. (I am considering it from a point of view of someone who does not like 5-door hatches, and is not too attached to DSG).
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Hurdy on 26 February 2008, 19:45
The key point I left out is that the S3 feels a little too good at what it does point to point and as such isn't half as much fun. It doesn't even give you the fun of listening to a V6 like the R32 does. :sad:
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: R32UK on 26 February 2008, 19:49
The key point I left out is that the S3 feels a little too good at what it does point to point and as such isn't half as much fun. It doesn't even give you the fun of listening to a V6 like the R32 does. :sad:

I remember watching a clip on youtube of the germans comparing the R32 to the S3 round a track. the S3 won by about 2-3secs but it didnt sound half as nice! :laugh: Included the previously featured sebine shmitz (atleast thats how i think you spell it)
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Hurdy on 26 February 2008, 19:53
Sabine Schmidt or Vicky Butler-Henderson....hmmm sounds like a thread for nonsense coming up :laugh:
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: R32UK on 26 February 2008, 19:55
Sabine Schmidt or Vicky Butler-Henderson....hmmm sounds like a thread for nonsense coming up :laugh:

they should race them both round the track with me on their backs :grin: See who really is the quicker of the two :evil:
Title: Re: In-Gear Times, ED30 with remap/Nissan 350Z Novidem
Post by: Peskarik on 26 February 2008, 22:51
Well, there is non-resonated Milltek, aha?!
So R32 sounds biffier, so what? For me this is not a choice factor. Besides, I like how TFSI sounds.
Conclusion: choice R32-S3 = S3.