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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Stiggy on 14 February 2008, 00:48
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Just found some interesting info about the DSG 'box:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=988
looks like someone has fitted a quaife lsd to their dsg 'box.
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....I'm planning to do the same.
Is this the thread?? - http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3494550 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3494550)
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....I'm planning to do the same.
Is this the thread?? - http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3494550 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3494550)
Yes that's the one. Its surprising to see how brave the americans are in messing with their dsg like that! Nearly all of them want to do it themselves :huh: do you know of anyone in the uk with the knowledge and expertise to fit it?
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Its surprising to see how brave the americans are in messing with their dsg like that! Nearly all of them want to do it themselves :huh: do you know of anyone in the uk with the knowledge and expertise to fit it?
....I know, most of the American GTI boys are crazy!! Check out http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14 (http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14) and also their Cosmetic Mods forum!
Yes, I do know someone who has fitted many Peloquin and Quaife diffs but not to the DSG yet. He has said he'll only undertake it after he's researched it enough to be absolutely confident in what he's doing. He's already done a lot of work on my GTI so I trust him greatly. I'll PM you his details and email (so the spam robots can't pick it up from here).
I most certainly wouldn't dream of cracking open a DSG box of tricks myself!!!!! :shocked:
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Its surprising to see how brave the americans are in messing with their dsg like that! Nearly all of them want to do it themselves :huh: do you know of anyone in the uk with the knowledge and expertise to fit it?
....I know, most of the American GTI boys are crazy!! Check out http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14 (http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14) and also their Cosmetic Mods forum!
Yes, I do know someone who has fitted many Peloquin and Quaife diffs but not to the DSG yet. He has said he'll only undertake it after he's researched it enough to be absolutely confident in what he's doing. He's already done a lot of work on my GTI so I trust him greatly. I'll PM you his details and email (so the spam robots can't pick it up from here).
I most certainly wouldn't dream of cracking open a DSG box of tricks myself!!!!! :shocked:
Thanks in advance. Looks like this mod may have to wait until the warranty runs out! Shame they didn't put an lsd in the first place. I remember there were rumours about an lsd in the e30 before official details about the car were released. Anyway, would make a good addition to a hardcore version of a mk6 gti - edition 35 perhaps..... :smug:
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Thanks in advance. Looks like this mod may have to wait until the warranty runs out! Shame they didn't put an lsd in the first place. I remember there were rumours about an lsd in the e30 before official details about the car were released. Anyway, would make a good addition to a hardcore version of a mk6 gti - edition 35 perhaps..... :smug:
....Including a LSD/ATB as standard would add extra cost for the customer and the majority of Mk5 GTI drivers probably don't want or need it. I'm keen on it but still not 100% until I've driven one. And I'll wait for my warranty to end too.
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Perhaps this topic ought to be retitled "Quaife for DSG" or similar as it's more about the diff than a general DSG subject (Hurdy?).
I was driving past Portsmouth today so dropped by JKM and had a long chat with Jim about diffs for the GTI. He reckons that Peloquin is a little bit more hardcore and feels slightly harsher and so more suitable for the track. Whereas the Quaife is very smooth and you'll only know it's fitted because of how the car pulls out of corners better. There's no real difference in their construction quality he reckons.
What he wants to do with mine is fit the original filter back into the DSG after Quaife installation and then go for a 50 mile drive to know it's all settled. And then change the filter to a new one. That's the kind of caring guy he is :smiley:.
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Perhaps this topic ought to be retitled "Quaife for DSG" or similar as it's more about the diff than a general DSG subject (Hurdy?).
I was driving past Portsmouth today so dropped by JKM and had a long chat with Jim about diffs for the GTI. He reckons that Peloquin is a little bit more hardcore and feels slightly harsher and so more suitable for the track. Whereas the Quaife is very smooth and you'll only know it's fitted because of how the car pulls out of corners better. There's no real difference in their construction quality he reckons.
What he wants to do with mine is fit the original filter back into the DSG after Quaife installation and then go for a 50 mile drive to know it's all settled. And then change the filter to a new one. That's the kind of caring guy he is :smiley:.
give him a kiss on a cheek :kiss:
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....I know, most of the American GTI boys are crazy!!
Yeh but they are also very stupid! :laugh: :laugh:
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For those interested, here's a link to info about the Quaife ATB. Obviously it's marketing Quaife's product but it does explain well how an ATB works:
http://www.quaife.co.uk/What-is-a-Quaife-ATB-differential (http://www.quaife.co.uk/What-is-a-Quaife-ATB-differential)
There's no doubt in my mind that as cars develop more power from the driving wheels for the ECU to manage, there's more need for ATB's to manage potential wheelspin/grip and improve handling. More performance cars would benefit from having such devices as standard but I guess it's all down to final cost and not everyone wanting to drive fast (but safely within the road conditions). In fact, there's an increasing number of idiots out there who want us all to drive at 40 mph everywhere outside the limited speed zones because they believe it will save the planet! The planet will be fine and manage as it always has done before mankind.
[Thanks Hurdy for editing topic title - It'll make it easier for future searches by people interested] :smiley:
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For those interested, here's a link to info about the Quaife ATB. Obviously it's marketing Quaife's product but it does explain well how an ATB works:
http://www.quaife.co.uk/What-is-a-Quaife-ATB-differential (http://www.quaife.co.uk/What-is-a-Quaife-ATB-differential)
There's no doubt in my mind that as cars develop more power from the driving wheels for the ECU to manage, there's more need for ATB's to manage potential wheelspin/grip and improve handling. More performance cars would benefit from having such devices as standard but I guess it's all down to final cost and not everyone wanting to drive fast (but safely within the road conditions). In fact, there's an increasing number of idiots out there who want us all to drive at 40 mph everywhere outside the limited speed zones because they believe it will save the planet! The planet will be fine and manage as it always has done before mankind.
[Thanks Hurdy for editing topic title - It'll make it easier for future searches by people interested] :smiley:
Thanks for the useful information. I recently had a ride in my friends car, to which he had fitted an ATB lsd (whether it was the quaife one i'm not sure) - When driving normally, the ride doesn't feel jerky or choppy at all, and you wouldn't suspect there's an lsd fitted. Its only when you go round a corner - very composed and smooth around a fast long bend, but you could feel the lsd working to pull the car into the bend. Would be very curious to see how it would transform the gti :evil:
Let us know if/when you plan to have the lsd fitted, would be interested to read your before and after comparison :smiley:
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Hi Stiggy,
An ATB lsd does sound very attractive and your recent ride experience confirms what I've heard so far. Btw, what was the car?
I must admit that I'd love to get a Quaife ATB and I've got every confidence in both the product and Jim's mechanic skills, but I sometimes ask myself whether I may be suffering from OCMD (Obsessive Compulsive Modding Disorder)!! I see the symptoms in Hurdy too. I don't really need such a mod, I'm not trying to do competitive lap times, or even road racing. BUT....
Rest assured that if I do it, I'll definitely post all about it. If Captain Sensible gets too irritating I'll have to lock him in the garden shed again. If I had listened to him I'd be driving a Mk5 Golf TDI DSG, which is what I originally ordered.
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Hi Stiggy,
An ATB lsd does sound very attractive and your recent ride experience confirms what I've heard so far. Btw, what was the car?
I must admit that I'd love to get a Quaife ATB and I've got every confidence in both the product and Jim's mechanic skills, but I sometimes ask myself whether I may be suffering from OCMD (Obsessive Compulsive Modding Disorder)!! I see the symptoms in Hurdy too. I don't really need such a mod, I'm not trying to do competitive lap times, or even road racing. BUT....
Rest assured that if I do it, I'll definitely post all about it. If Captain Sensible gets too irritating I'll have to lock him in the garden shed again. If I had listened to him I'd be driving a Mk5 Golf TDI DSG, which is what I originally ordered.
:cool:
Yes I have got the modding bug :embarassed: :evil:
That Quaife diff keeps calling to me in the middle of the night :laugh: It doesn't help that I got hold of their catalogue at the Autosport show either :rolleyes:
I think I'd be drawn to Stattler to fit one as they are local to me here in Sheffield and from what I've been hearing they have a really good rep when it comes to the "oily" bits. A bit like RR, I will hold off until later on in my ownership to have one fitted, but until then I have plenty of other mods to go at to keep me going :wink:
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or you could just say what the hell , take the hit and enjoy the improvement.........
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or you could just say what the hell , take the hit and enjoy the improvement.........
....Hmm. Saying that isn't helping!! :grin:
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Hi Stiggy,
An ATB lsd does sound very attractive and your recent ride experience confirms what I've heard so far. Btw, what was the car?
I must admit that I'd love to get a Quaife ATB and I've got every confidence in both the product and Jim's mechanic skills, but I sometimes ask myself whether I may be suffering from OCMD (Obsessive Compulsive Modding Disorder)!! I see the symptoms in Hurdy too. I don't really need such a mod, I'm not trying to do competitive lap times, or even road racing. BUT....
Rest assured that if I do it, I'll definitely post all about it. If Captain Sensible gets too irritating I'll have to lock him in the garden shed again. If I had listened to him I'd be driving a Mk5 Golf TDI DSG, which is what I originally ordered.
:cool:
The car was a modded honda civic which shouldn't be underestimated (one with 200bhp, which weighs less than a tonne). You definately made the right decision getting the gti! Think you would remain captain sensible if you got the diesel and you would miss out on all the lovely mods on your car :evil:
Hi Stiggy,
An ATB lsd does sound very attractive and your recent ride experience confirms what I've heard so far. Btw, what was the car?
I must admit that I'd love to get a Quaife ATB and I've got every confidence in both the product and Jim's mechanic skills, but I sometimes ask myself whether I may be suffering from OCMD (Obsessive Compulsive Modding Disorder)!! I see the symptoms in Hurdy too. I don't really need such a mod, I'm not trying to do competitive lap times, or even road racing. BUT....
Rest assured that if I do it, I'll definitely post all about it. If Captain Sensible gets too irritating I'll have to lock him in the garden shed again. If I had listened to him I'd be driving a Mk5 Golf TDI DSG, which is what I originally ordered.
:cool:
Yes I have got the modding bug :embarassed: :evil:
That Quaife diff keeps calling to me in the middle of the night :laugh: It doesn't help that I got hold of their catalogue at the Autosport show either :rolleyes:
I think I'd be drawn to Stattler to fit one as they are local to me here in Sheffield and from what I've been hearing they have a really good rep when it comes to the "oily" bits. A bit like RR, I will hold off until later on in my ownership to have one fitted, but until then I have plenty of other mods to go at to keep me going :wink:
It is amazing how many mods you can do to the car - one step at a time i suppose :rolleyes:
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I know what you mean Stiggy.
If I add up all the mods I have and are on order they add up to an awful lot.
Add to those the following:-
Dymag Carbonfibre and alloy wheels
Uprating suspension
Quaife LSD
you could add another £7k :shocked:
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It is amazing how many mods you can do to the car - one step at a time i suppose :rolleyes:
....It's definitely best to mod one step at a time and also to leave the remap until after some of the hardware mods. That way, you get to experience and learn what each mod does to your ride. And also in the extremely unlikely event you get a problem (having not carefully chosen your mods), you can at least isolate it and solve it more easily. It's so much more enjoyable to bring a girlie on sloooowly, lads! :evil: - Take this advice from an older stag! :grin:
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Add to those the following:-
Dymag Carbonfibre and alloy wheels
.... :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: Crikey!!!! Those are to die for!! Are you serious about getting those? :smiley:
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Add to those the following:-
Dymag Carbonfibre and alloy wheels
.... :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: Crikey!!!! Those are to die for!! Are you serious about getting those? :smiley:
how much are 18" for GTI?
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Add to those the following:-
Dymag Carbonfibre and alloy wheels
.... :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: Crikey!!!! Those are to die for!! Are you serious about getting those? :smiley:
how much are 18" for GTI?
....If you have to ask, you can't afford them!
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Somewhere north of £4k for 4 alloys without rubber :drool: :shocked:
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waste of money on a FWD car
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waste of money on a FWD car
Thats right Hurdy!! I know someone with a 4wd that wouldnt mine you putting the wheels on his car :wink:
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waste of money on a FWD car
Thats right Hurdy!! I know someone with a 4wd that wouldnt mine you putting the wheels on his car :wink:
These aren't even really on my radar at the moment. There are plenty of other things to look at first :undecided:
Although if we got a group buy for £500 a set, I'm sure there would be more than a few takers :laugh: :grin: