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Title: Coilover's for VR
Post by: rombonie on 07 February 2008, 19:10
Hi all

Does any know weather the janspeed and the hottunning coilover's are any good? for a VR and a MK2 8v

Thanks in advance

Rombonie
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Mikester on 07 February 2008, 19:19
I have heard only good things about the hottuning ones. Good price and quality apparently.  :cool:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: saul79 on 07 February 2008, 19:19
yes there fine
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 24 February 2008, 23:14
Hi,

To be honest we rate our kits slightly above the quality of the Hottuning units. Ours are a european made unit as opposed to a far east based product. Our warranty is held in house, so should the worse occur we are equiped enough to deal with the problem. You will note the alloy adjusters on our units are silver as oppsoed to anodised blue.

We are trying to delvier a quality product and great service at an affordable price. We are about to unveil a new program of suspension that is far superior to the current UK market place. News will follow soon.

I hope this helps. Please feel free to approach use with your questions. We are more than happy to help where we can.
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: saul79 on 24 February 2008, 23:15
the colour isnt going to make them better though is it? jamex/venom motorsports and hottuning are exactly the same .
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: saul79 on 24 February 2008, 23:18
and you get 2 years warranty with them too .
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 24 February 2008, 23:22
Sorry meant to suggest that the colour helps differentiate the products. Thats why we have silver adjusters. Our warranty is a UK held 2 year policy.
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: boneybradley on 24 February 2008, 23:23
I maybe interested in these by janspeed.... i am waiting for some feedback from someone who has a set before deciding... oh and the warrantly sounds better as they are a uk company unlike hottuning..
I remember my exhaust from germany not fitting and they said i could return it at my own cost!!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: saul79 on 24 February 2008, 23:23
aha okay . :smiley:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 24 February 2008, 23:26
We have a failry decent amount of customers from this site already who have purchased our kits. We are more than happy to recieve feedback on a product that we have done much research into the quality of and attempted to souce the goods at a sensible price. We are aware our product could attract a higher price purley on our name but we dont feel that is what the market is asking for at this time.
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: saul79 on 24 February 2008, 23:27
how much do you charge for a set off them then .?
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 24 February 2008, 23:30
Our units currently sell for £219.99 for a full kit including 2 spanners and a full maintenance and fitment guide along with some extras from the Janspeed marketing dept  :wink:

Postage is £12.50
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: saul79 on 24 February 2008, 23:32
not a bad price and you wont need to wait for a week,i guess :wink:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 24 February 2008, 23:34
We are currently holding stock of just over 200 complete kits. With a few more fitments on route this coming week.
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 24 February 2008, 23:46
Our units currently sell for £219.99 for a full kit including 2 spanners and a full maintenance and fitment guide along with some extras from the Janspeed marketing dept  :wink:

Postage is £12.50

thats a good uk price what about a possibility of a group buy ? also would you be able to fit the kits  ?

there are many of us mk3 owners still to lower a cars ;)
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Mikester on 24 February 2008, 23:51
Our units currently sell for £219.99 for a full kit including 2 spanners and a full maintenance and fitment guide along with some extras from the Janspeed marketing dept  :wink:

Postage is £12.50

thats a good uk price what about a possibility of a group buy ? also would you be able to fit the kits  ?

there are many of us mk3 owners still to lower a cars ;)

Group buy, now were talking. £200 posted im tinkin around.
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 24 February 2008, 23:56
Our units currently sell for £219.99 for a full kit including 2 spanners and a full maintenance and fitment guide along with some extras from the Janspeed marketing dept  :wink:

Postage is £12.50

thats a good uk price what about a possibility of a group buy ? also would you be able to fit the kits  ?

there are many of us mk3 owners still to lower a cars ;)

Group buy, now were talking. £200 posted im tinkin around.

also they will have a uk warranty  :cool: more  peace of mind ??  :huh:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: kells on 24 February 2008, 23:58
shamless promotion  Janspeed hey?? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

TBH the janspeed ones look ok although no better than the hottuning ones which are and can be had a hell of alot cheeper??

i got the jamex on mine and payed alot more for them, and they arre the same as the bloody hotuning ones hahah !!! :angry:

the janspeed ones look the same quality as the hottuning / jamex etc etc

Bring the price down to beat people buying the hottuning ones as they are tried and tested now..
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Mikester on 25 February 2008, 00:00
I emailed the hottuning guy, and he said he would take £180 for a set, and that wasnt haggling.

So you need to pull out a deal  :wink:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 25 February 2008, 00:02
I emailed the hottuning guy, and he said he would take £180 for a set, and that wasnt haggling.

So you need to pull out a deal  :wink:

it always comes down to them hit tunning ones !!!

grrrr must do exhaust first !! lol
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Mikester on 25 February 2008, 00:04
I emailed the hottuning guy, and he said he would take £180 for a set, and that wasnt haggling.

So you need to pull out a deal  :wink:

it always comes down to them hit tunning ones !!!

grrrr must do exhaust first !! lol

We seem to be on the same boat, stuffed exhausts, but care more about the suspension!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: kells on 25 February 2008, 00:05
those guys at hotuning are doing it big time...they must be moving big amounts to do the prices they do, i know a lad who got his for 160, plus 20 delivery from europe with a 2 year warrenty...so thats 180 all in... now that is a steal if you ask me... i payed just shy of 300 for my jamex kit and im pissed off :grin:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 25 February 2008, 00:08
I emailed the hottuning guy, and he said he would take £180 for a set, and that wasnt haggling.

So you need to pull out a deal  :wink:

it always comes down to them hit tunning ones !!!

grrrr must do exhaust first !! lol


We seem to be on the same boat, stuffed exhausts, but care more about the suspension!

i just wana lose the ballon 4x4 look and ever week someone on here decks there mk3  :angry: :angry:and just looks like it was ment to be !!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: boneybradley on 25 February 2008, 00:14

i just wana lose the ballon 4x4 look and ever week someone on here decks there mk3  :angry: :angry:and just looks like it was ment to be !!

mines all ready lowered but still dosent look quite right....and with these cheap coilovers its got to be done..
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/boneybradley/DSCN3535.jpg)
its an old pic buts thats down by 40mm and it needs another 20mm back and 40mm front
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 February 2008, 00:23
You can buy the Hottuning coilovers from a place called Rennsport in stoke, thats where i got mine form.

There £195 or £215 posted.. Come with warrenty and all that shizzle and UK based, bout 25 cheaper than janspeed and no different.. TRUST me!

Rich
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 25 February 2008, 08:43
There are just a few points we would raise. The Hottunig units you mention we know of very well. You could say our experience of them is first hand. Bart is the guy who owns HT, very nice guy indeed. His prices are cheaper than the Janspeed price and I really would not have any thing publicly bad to say about another company’s product. But as repeated before ours are not the same units, I can not emphasise that enough Rich.

We believe our product will stand the test of time and that is again why we stand by our price structure. Our manufacturing partner who produces all of our range is not a wholesaler; they are spending their days developing suspension and like us have a good name to uphold, hence our confidence in our goods. I think we could debate this topic for days, however it’s a worth while point to say the service offered when purchasing such items is also a factor to consider.

If a member of your website would like to contact us privately we would be happy to discuss bulk buys. We are already doing so with the MK5 sector of this site both with exhausts and suspension.
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Chidub on 25 February 2008, 10:20
I'm up for buying a set with the bulk buy action!
Lets get it sorted!!!!
Who else is interested?
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Mikester on 25 February 2008, 12:30
I'm up for buying a set with the bulk buy action!
Lets get it sorted!!!!
Who else is interested?
Im interested, Janspeed, bulk buy? How much could you offer them for per unit posted if we bought say 10 or 20 at the same time??

 :cool:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 25 February 2008, 13:41
We could supply the units for £200 all inclusive if 15 or more units were purchased.

We could also offer if purchased at the same time the following

MKIII 2.0i GTi 8V DECAT for £90.00
MKIII 2.0i GTi 8V S/S System for £240.00
MKIII 2.0i GTi 8V S/S Back Box for £150.00

Tail pipe on the above is Twin 3" Round

Orders can be placed by calling 01722 321833
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: MarkS on 25 February 2008, 18:22
Janspeed, as you're taking an active role in this topic, maybe I'll ask this question here too-

I have a similar amount to spend on suspension soon.
Will these kits offer improvements over standard GTi handling? More or less so to a similarly priced shock and spring set up?
I really want a set of coilovers but can't stretch to the higher end ones  :sad:

Not too bothered about ride comfort cos I'm 'ard  :lipsrsealed:

This is for a mk2 GTi though.
Although I imagine the same applies to the mk3 too  :smiley:

Can you give me the lowdown please mate?
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: monzablue16v on 25 February 2008, 18:53
Hot tuning are doing a group buy on the mk2 owners club at the minute for £150 posted. They have good feedback so far and have sold shed loads of them and I've not heard anything about the Janspeed ones don't they make rucksacks :laugh:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 February 2008, 18:55
I've not heard anything about the Janspeed ones don't they make rucksacks :laugh:

 :grin:

£150 is CHEAP!!!!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: boneybradley on 25 February 2008, 19:41
I will e-mail hottuning and see if we can get an discount/bulk buy too... they seem up for it!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: monzablue16v on 25 February 2008, 19:59
just join in on this one here http://vwmk2golfowners.f.xaviermedia.com/viewtopic.php?t=540&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75&mforum=vwmk2golfowners (http://vwmk2golfowners.f.xaviermedia.com/viewtopic.php?t=540&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75&mforum=vwmk2golfowners)
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: kells on 25 February 2008, 20:00
you cant beat that price, that is a bloody bargain and half
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: boneybradley on 25 February 2008, 20:05
just join in on this one here http://vwmk2golfowners.f.xaviermedia.com/viewtopic.php?t=540&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75&mforum=vwmk2golfowners (http://vwmk2golfowners.f.xaviermedia.com/viewtopic.php?t=540&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75&mforum=vwmk2golfowners)

They wont get arsy having us mk3 owners register so we can buy some will they??  i just remember clubgit being tw4ts about something similar!!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: kells on 25 February 2008, 20:07
hahahahahahahaha

bloody VW owners eh!!!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: boneybradley on 25 February 2008, 20:09
hahahahahahahaha

bloody VW owners eh!!!

No its just the "scene" police!!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: monzablue16v on 25 February 2008, 20:13
No they seem cool on there :) They're onto their 2nd GB now and waiting for results to come in :)
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 25 February 2008, 20:19
150 !!!! what !!!

that price i can not let go even if i dont fit them till summer !!!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 25 February 2008, 20:28
that dose it i have aksed if i can jion the gruop bye !!! com on 150 !!!!  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: monzablue16v on 25 February 2008, 20:29
Well Hilf the guy doing the group buy said it's good so I may well stick up a post :)
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: golfmk31993 on 25 February 2008, 22:28
i want some of theese coilovers for £150 we need a group buy!!!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 25 February 2008, 22:39
i want some of theese coilovers for £150 we need a group buy!!!

just add ya sellf to this one i did :)

http://vwmk2golfowners.f.xaviermedia.com/viewtopic.php?t=540&mforum=vwmk2golfowners
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Mikester on 25 February 2008, 22:43
I want this group buy, damn me being skint, again! DOH!........

Might get a credit card to buy some coilovers  :laugh:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 25 February 2008, 22:44
I want this group buy, damn me being skint, again! DOH!........

Might get a credit card to buy some coilovers  :laugh:

its gona almost clear me out out dam what a price
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 February 2008, 22:47
Your gona have to add the 40 quid ish for new top mounts and bearings before you fit these toog uys but comin from someone who has had these on for almost 2 days..... DAM THERE GOOD and worth every penny!!!!!!  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: kells on 25 February 2008, 22:55
"Go rich Go rich" hehehe :laugh:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 February 2008, 23:04
"Go rich Go rich" hehehe :laugh:

 :grin:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: MarkS on 25 February 2008, 23:17
How's it handle?
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 February 2008, 23:20
Prob better askin kells hes had his on for a bit now.. but in the short time iv had it, its awesome, really good on corners, no body roll at all and really isnt that bumpy at all!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Mikester on 25 February 2008, 23:25
i would hope so, i have spun mine on standard suspension!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 25 February 2008, 23:28
Hi Guys, Well £150 is a good price for HT's units. We tend to run a policy on these things though of standing by our price for quality and service. Of course our offer still stands and in reply to an earlier question we supply a kit for the MKII and MKIII at the same cost. Its not good for our industry to keep undercutting each other. Let us know if we can help any further.

Thanks for the interest.
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: MarkS on 25 February 2008, 23:32
Janspeed mate, do you reckon these offer better handling than the original mk2/mk3 8v set up?
And will it be as good as a spring and shock set up of a similar price?
Cheers  :smiley:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: kells on 25 February 2008, 23:35
i can say mine with its Jamex set up handles like its on rails, superb, i have koni set up on my jap car and the handling is close betwen both cars

im sure Janspeed dude is pissed off about HT doing their deals, im sure whichever kit you go for u will be very happy

janspeed, is the company under new management or something, i though it went under a few years ago?? or am i totally off the mark, sorry to be nosey btw
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 25 February 2008, 23:41
all i know is what ever kit you go for it now seems coilovers have to be done !!!

cant wait to get mine !!!

Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 25 February 2008, 23:48
The benifit of a coilover really is the tailored height aspect. Given that they were developed around track based vehicles it gives a firm controlled ride. Shock and springs will tighten a cars handling but they are designed around a more consumer every day user. Were about to launch a High Performance range of shock and spring combinations for the complete VW range. Were confident in our development of these kits that they will offer a very good level of performance comparable to the firm ride of coilovers.

Were not frustrated by HT's units at all. I have as i said very good experience of the units and they do 'just what they say on the tin'. We know the birth of our units came from a different thought process and i think a lot of our users are already realising that.

We are not aware of any new management?!? Unless they have not told us yet  :undecided: :smug:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Mikester on 25 February 2008, 23:50
I really dont know what ones to buy, but if this group buy came together, i would probably get the janspeed ones. If they are £200 posted, as thats what i can get the HT ones for now.
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: MarkS on 25 February 2008, 23:52
I'm really impressed Janspeed, if I decide to go down the coilover route, I'll be choosing these over the HT ones  :smiley:
I don't mind about a harsh ride, I'm still young!
Any passengers complain...they can get out and walk  :smiley:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Mikester on 25 February 2008, 23:53
aslong as i get round the corner, in the best line without crashin or skiddin, i dont care about ride!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 25 February 2008, 23:54
also janspeed can fit them right :) !!!

was thinking they are uk based as well ?

Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 25 February 2008, 23:55
Given that we have these units in stock now. It would be rude not to allow purchases to proceed, after all we are very keen to get these kits out in the public domain. If people can leave it until Friday we can take and despatch orders from then onwards.

We would ask anyone wishing to purchase these kits to PM this account and we will issue a code which can verify the people buying.
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: kells on 25 February 2008, 23:56
hi janspeed

i remember reading it a good few years ago (i think)

Janspeed exhausts used to be very popular but not so these days??

iv never personally owned a janspeed, always had mongoose as they made them up to my spec, something that janspeed wouldnt when i asked them to in 1995 for my tuned swift GTI, (the janspeed standard offering was pathetic to say the least, in terms of looks that is)

so you are now putting your efforts into suspension??


good on you i say, i really did think you had gone the way of the dodo
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: remapped on 25 February 2008, 23:59
have to say what company would take there time to chat to us at almost 12am !!! at night  nice one janspeed

Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Mikester on 25 February 2008, 23:59
have to say what company would take there time to chat to us at almost 12am !!! at night  nice one janspeed



the Co-op would ;)
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: kells on 26 February 2008, 00:00
have to say what company would take there time to chat to us at almost 12am !!! at night  nice one janspeed




a company that really wants your trade  :wink:

and theirs nothing wrong with that i might add :cool:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: Janspeed on 26 February 2008, 00:03
Kells

A vast amount of our systems are manufactured for other companies. Some very well known ones at that! The whole business model has changed some what over the last few years and were happy to hear from our consumers. We offer many custom fitments and are now spanning into suspension. Something were far from new to, its just about time we brought it to the retail market.

Well were working hard to bring ourselves to our custom base. Its a good sign of the times. On that note! Speak Soon Guys!
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: kells on 26 February 2008, 00:06
Good to hear janspeed...  hope things work out for you..

now how much would you charge me to make up the rest of the system from a magnex backbox up to my cat  :laugh:
Title: Re: Coilover's for VR
Post by: golfmk31993 on 26 February 2008, 18:59
i just added my name to the bulk buy ht coilovers list on the mk2 forum

cnt wait to get some quality hot tuning coilovers for £150 delivered!!!

thanks for the link remapped