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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: The Wheel Man on 04 February 2008, 18:05
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in dash DVD / sat nav units?
As soem may know im looking for a GTI but i think i may be too fussy as i canoot see a single car with the spec i want, the main thing that most GTI's dont have sat nav fitted. Now i know its petty but i want it because i think that i looks much better than the std stereo so i might as weel look at after market units.
Ive looked on the net but to be honest i know zip about this kinds thing. :undecided:
Any suggestions?
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I have a Kenwood 7200. Good system and well specced. See below.
http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/stock01/dnx7200.asp
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I've had Pioneer and now Alpine SatNav/Audio touch screen units in my GTI and much prefer the Alpine. I didn't like the Kenwood SatNav interface at the time I first considered such gear. There's nothing to choose between all of them audio quality wise. Alpine have the most experience in SatNav mapping.
My Pioneer:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/SatNavDay.jpg)
Alpine at night with iPod:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/Alpine_iPod_Night.jpg)
Alpine in Germany:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/3_SatNav_Munich.jpg)
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ive got the pioneer 30gb harddrive double din model in just i can watch tv & dvds its got a dab input i can put screens in the headrests, ipod conector 6disc changer dvd changer itll run a ps2.its got a g metre and accearomitor as well the hd is partioned 20 gbfor mapping (26 european countries) 10gb for music it was the best of all the double dins when i bought it last year BUT it was £2500 fitted along with a speaker upgrade alot better than the standard crap..
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We've been considering an upgrade.
The main thing stopping us getting the Kenwood has been the worry of having the car broken into to have it nicked. Are there any units out there with satellite nav and a removable fascia?
The Alpine pictured above wouldn't do the business for us because it looks like it gets in the way of the vents, and we'd prefer it to occupy the place taken by the RCD300 (like the VW oem model)
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Hi I've fitted the new RNS 510 from VW. It was very easy to fit, and gives the full functionality without having to mess around with Vag-com or anything. It took me about 30mins from start to finish.
Also sounds much better than the standard RCD300. Not sure about the sat-nav voice though, she sounds very stern :laugh:
You get a 30Gb hard disk to copy all of your MP3 files onto, it plays DVD's and accepts SD cards through a front slot. Finally you get to keep that OEM look at it comes direct from VW.
Hope this helps,
Nigel
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Hi I've fitted the new RNS 510 from VW. It was very easy to fit, and gives the full functionality without having to mess around with Vag-com or anything. It took me about 30mins from start to finish.
Also sounds much better than the standard RCD300. Not sure about the sat-nav voice though, she sounds very stern :laugh:
You get a 30Gb hard disk to copy all of your MP3 files onto, it plays DVD's and accepts SD cards through a front slot. Finally you get to keep that OEM look at it comes direct from VW.
Hope this helps,
Nigel
Beefy - that looks exactly what we want - thanks! One thing I like is the proper buttons at the side, and the fact that it's all lit up in red to match the other lights...
Here's a couple of good threads about the 510:
http://vwnavi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6808 (http://vwnavi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6808)
and
http://vwnavi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5993 (http://vwnavi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5993)
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My Ed30 has the 510 as an option, can't wait for it to arrive :)
Going to be adding the "Premium Bluetooth" to it, so I can use my phone through it
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Beefy - just one question - can you put full postcodes into your 510 yet? I've read there's a problem with full postcodes right now...
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I have an RNS 510 too - retro fitted.
you cant put full postcodes in, VW doesn't seem to know or care either.
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Beefy - just one question - can you put full postcodes into your 510 yet? I've read there's a problem with full postcodes right now...
.... :shocked: No full postcodes and it calls itself a SatNav!!??
Give me an aftermarket solution every time - They can also be more safely located so the screen is more in vision while driving. And the audio head units are usually better quality.
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but with aftermarket, they are more easily removed by thieves!
also the RNS 510 lights up the same as the rest of the dash and doesnt stick out like a sore thumb.
I've found I hardly needed postcode entry anyway, as long as I have the street name and post town.
:laugh:
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Beefy - just one question - can you put full postcodes into your 510 yet? I've read there's a problem with full postcodes right now...
.... :shocked: No full postcodes and it calls itself a SatNav!!??
Give me an aftermarket solution every time - They can also be more safely located so the screen is more in vision while driving. And the audio head units are usually better quality.
I dont find tha fact that it does not take full postcodes at the moment a major problem, there does seem to be regular firmware and map updates that should resolve this problem as VW did in Germany. Also as for it being inferior to aftermarket I'm not so sure. In my last car I had the Pioneer Avic system, and this one from VW seems to be just as good, infact I think it has a better screen and a much better system of handling the traffic annoucements. Also Pioneer stopped bringing out map updates after just 2 years, which with all the road 'improvements' happening near me at the moment rendered it out of date pretty quickly.
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Thanks guys, this gives me something to think about!!
I have a Kenwood 7200. Good system and well specced. See below.
http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/stock01/dnx7200.asp
Can the maps be updated??
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re: RNS 510, yes maps can be updated. £200 from a VW dealer, or £100 for same thing off ebay.
re: firmware and map updates solving postcode issue, thats a negative at the mo. as there is someone over on vwnavi.com who has the latest headunit in a brand new car, with the latest v1000 firmware, only just released, and the dealer could not solve the problem. we will have to wait maybe 6 months for another firmware update and that might solve it.
I have the latest maps, and that doesn't solve it either.
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Thanks guys, this gives me something to think about!!I have a Kenwood 7200. Good system and well specced. See below.
http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/stock01/dnx7200.asp
Can the maps be updated??
Yes.
You can update them using the built in SD card slot. I haven't had to yet though.
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but with aftermarket, they are more easily removed by thieves!
also the RNS 510 lights up the same as the rest of the dash and doesnt stick out like a sore thumb.
I've found I hardly needed postcode entry anyway, as long as I have the street name and post town.
:laugh:
Mine is fastened in and has this covering it, so it looks like a boggo RCD300 :cool:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/DirtyED30002.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/DirtyED30003.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/DirtyED30004-1.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/DirtyED30005-1.jpg)
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....That looks both very tidy and secure, Hurdy - Cool stuff. However, I still prefer my SatNav screen to be more in my driving line of sight. Each to their own :smiley:.
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Very cunning Hurdy!
My Pioneer:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/SatNavDay.jpg)
Does the surround and tray come with this pioneer unit, or did you have to source them separately? Looks very smart by the way :cool:
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I have an RNS 510 too - retro fitted.
you cant put full postcodes in, VW doesn't seem to know or care either.
What sort of money are the 510's 2007GTI?
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Does the surround and tray come with this pioneer unit, or did you have to source them separately? Looks very smart by the way :cool:
....Sourced separately but very easily. I always use the same car audio specialist.
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I have a Kenwood 7200. Good system and well specced. See below.
http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/stock01/dnx7200.asp
I really like the look of your kenwood Hurdy, where did you get the plastic surround? Easy enough to install? How can you connect an Ipod? I have the VW prep, but I assume it needs its own lead? (sorry for all the questions!) :smiley:
Ah I've just noticed you can buy a separate lead for thirty quid. I suppose you just run this into the glovebox.
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I have a Kenwood 7200. Good system and well specced. See below.
http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/stock01/dnx7200.asp
I really like the look of your kenwood Hurdy, where did you get the plastic surround? Easy enough to install? How can you connect an Ipod? I have the VW prep, but I assume it needs its own lead? (sorry for all the questions!) :smiley:
Ah I've just noticed you can buy a separate lead for thirty quid. I suppose you just run this into the glovebox.
I have the Kenwood DDX-7029 which is the same as Hurdy's but without the Satnav, the i-pod lead is just run from the Glove box which renders the v/w prep useless which it was anyway. It is a great system, had the Bluetooth set up as well which works great.
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I have a Kenwood 7200. Good system and well specced. See below.
http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/stock01/dnx7200.asp
I really like the look of your kenwood Hurdy, where did you get the plastic surround? Easy enough to install? How can you connect an Ipod? I have the VW prep, but I assume it needs its own lead? (sorry for all the questions!) :smiley:
Ah I've just noticed you can buy a separate lead for thirty quid. I suppose you just run this into the glovebox.
I have the Kenwood DDX-7029 which is the same as Hurdy's but without the Satnav, the i-pod lead is just run from the Glove box which renders the v/w prep useless which it was anyway. It is a great system, had the Bluetooth set up as well which works great.
Cheers for that J.M - I was just looking at that system actually, much better for me as I don't ever use SAT NAV (good old fashioned map book all the way!), best price I could find is £429.99 which ain't bad. Did you install it yourself? If so is it easy enough to do? And where do you get the plastic surround? Cheers :smiley:
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DDX-7029's, 7200's, RNS 510's, RCD300's, Firmware......
You guys know how to make a guy feel dim :embarassed: :laugh:
I realy do have muchos info to learn
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I have a Kenwood 7200. Good system and well specced. See below.
http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/stock01/dnx7200.asp
I really like the look of your kenwood Hurdy, where did you get the plastic surround? Easy enough to install? How can you connect an Ipod? I have the VW prep, but I assume it needs its own lead? (sorry for all the questions!) :smiley:
Ah I've just noticed you can buy a separate lead for thirty quid. I suppose you just run this into the glovebox.
I have the Kenwood DDX-7029 which is the same as Hurdy's but without the Satnav, the i-pod lead is just run from the Glove box which renders the v/w prep useless which it was anyway. It is a great system, had the Bluetooth set up as well which works great.
Cheers for that J.M - I was just looking at that system actually, much better for me as I don't ever use SAT NAV (good old fashioned map book all the way!), best price I could find is £429.99 which ain't bad. Did you install it yourself? If so is it easy enough to do? And where do you get the plastic surround? Cheers :smiley:
No did not install in myself, (that would have been a laugh) had it done by my local car audio dealer, they supplied the surround and cables. Did not want the one with Sat Nav as i have a Tom Tom which i am happy with.
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I have a Kenwood 7200. Good system and well specced. See below.
http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/stock01/dnx7200.asp
I really like the look of your kenwood Hurdy, where did you get the plastic surround? Easy enough to install? How can you connect an Ipod? I have the VW prep, but I assume it needs its own lead? (sorry for all the questions!) :smiley:
Ah I've just noticed you can buy a separate lead for thirty quid. I suppose you just run this into the glovebox.
Plastic surround was bought from Source sounds near where I live. I had Source sounds install the speakers and the Headunit, but since then I've had it back out again. The head unit only took them an hour to fit and that was with some extra fiddling to see if they could get the Video IPOD lead to my centre console. In the end it was put through into the glovebox without any problems. The HU simply fits via a harness adapter which as you say is a plug and play affair. The IPOD connects through the USB2.0 port in the rear of the unit and if you have a video IPOD you need the video IPOD cable. I also have bluetooth and a reverse camera fitted to it too. The reverse camera comes on automatically when I select reverse :cool:
I must stress that once you have an aftermarket unit fitted you will get extra distortion coming through the speakers at the higher volumes. This is because VW head units have a function called DSP (digital sound processing) which controls the frequencies the speakers can output at certain volumes. With the aftermarket unit you do not have the DSP any longer and get the full volume through all the frequency range. The reason VW use DSP is because their speakers are very poor quality (yes even with the VW soundpack) and built down to a cost. I was told by the sound specialist that even low end aftermarket speakers are better quality than the VW soundpack ones. He showed me the VW speaker against a cheap aftermarket one and the quality of build is markedly different. The sound output of the standard VW speakers is poor and they simply cannot handle the full output from aftermarket headunits and even have been known to fail. Whatever you do, don't think of putting extra power through them via an amp :shocked:
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Russ - RNS 510 off ebay are around £1000.
trusted seller in Germany is gps-jocker. Dont be fooled by the name, many people from here and vwnavi.com have brought from him.
make sure you buy the one for the Golf V and not the Touareg.
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hmm its all a bit messy, pick the new kenwoods and if you have black & white screen ipod then its not compat.
as for stealing them they look like they are bolted to the car so you would need to use crowbar to get them out which would damage the unit anyway.
one things for sure the rcd300 and ipod connection are guff.
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I fitted my own stereo through a couple of guides on here and also on MKIVs.
Its just a single DIN Alpine iDA-X001 which is an iPod only stereo - but the principle was the same.
The surround is available directly from any VW stealer and will cost you about £20. You can get cheaper ones from aftermarket companies, but I found the £10 one I bought didnt have the same plastic texture and didnt match the car.
I ended up tearing out half my armrest etc and fitting an iPod dock and lead in the armrest cubby.
I then made up a special lead and a switch which fits inside the cubby too so that I can flick between playing from iPod to USB memory stick without unplugging anything.
The guides are really good and tell you all about taking a feed from your fusebox as a permenant live - otherwise your stereo will re-set itself every time you take the key out! I originally did it using a CanBus adapter which cost me about £70 - but then realised that you can do exactly the same install without it (using the fusebox method). The CanBus meant not having to cut or interfere with original wiring - but it made a hell of a ticking noise all the time.
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Just out of curiosity: - Does the VW SatNav allow you to set or change destinations etc while driving or do you have to stop and put the handbrake on?
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Russ - RNS 510 off ebay are around £1000.
£1,000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF is that about?????
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Just out of curiosity: - Does the VW SatNav allow you to set or change destinations etc while driving or do you have to stop and put the handbrake on?
it lets you do it on the move
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Russ - RNS 510 off ebay are around £1000.
£1,000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF is that about?????
WTF is it about? the fact VW charge £1800, so in fact its good value, saving £800. :tongue:
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Russ - RNS 510 off ebay are around £1000.
£1,000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF is that about?????
WTF is it about? the fact VW charge £1800, so in fact its good value, saving £800. :tongue:
Check the VWnavi for sale forum, thats where I got mine from, for only £700. Also comes with the latest software and firmware, plus quick delivery. Bluetooth can also be added quite easily, as I've done it myself, again there are discussions on vwnavi if you want more info.
Cheers,
Nigel
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I have a Kenwood 7200. Good system and well specced. See below.
http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/stock01/dnx7200.asp
I really like the look of your kenwood Hurdy, where did you get the plastic surround? Easy enough to install? How can you connect an Ipod? I have the VW prep, but I assume it needs its own lead? (sorry for all the questions!) :smiley:
Ah I've just noticed you can buy a separate lead for thirty quid. I suppose you just run this into the glovebox.
Plastic surround was bought from Source sounds near where I live. I had Source sounds install the speakers and the Headunit, but since then I've had it back out again. The head unit only took them an hour to fit and that was with some extra fiddling to see if they could get the Video IPOD lead to my centre console. In the end it was put through into the glovebox without any problems. The HU simply fits via a harness adapter which as you say is a plug and play affair. The IPOD connects through the USB2.0 port in the rear of the unit and if you have a video IPOD you need the video IPOD cable. I also have bluetooth and a reverse camera fitted to it too. The reverse camera comes on automatically when I select reverse :cool:
I must stress that once you have an aftermarket unit fitted you will get extra distortion coming through the speakers at the higher volumes. This is because VW head units have a function called DSP (digital sound processing) which controls the frequencies the speakers can output at certain volumes. With the aftermarket unit you do not have the DSP any longer and get the full volume through all the frequency range. The reason VW use DSP is because their speakers are very poor quality (yes even with the VW soundpack) and built down to a cost. I was told by the sound specialist that even low end aftermarket speakers are better quality than the VW soundpack ones. He showed me the VW speaker against a cheap aftermarket one and the quality of build is markedly different. The sound output of the standard VW speakers is poor and they simply cannot handle the full output from aftermarket headunits and even have been known to fail. Whatever you do, don't think of putting extra power through them via an amp :shocked:
Russ - RNS 510 off ebay are around £1000.
trusted seller in Germany is gps-jocker. Dont be fooled by the name, many people from here and vwnavi.com have brought from him.
make sure you buy the one for the Golf V and not the Touareg.
Thanks for the info chaps! That New RNS 510 does look quite tasty :tongue: