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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: ghockle on 22 January 2008, 17:33
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Anyone got these ?
Please let me know what you think ?
Koni FSD Dampers
KONI introduces the first no-compromise shock absorber in the world. In other words: a complete turn around in road-holding. Until recently you only had a choice between shock absorbers that were either more firm or more comfortable. Cars with firm suspension do have better road-holding but there is a trade-off in the level of comfort. Cars with soft suspension are more comfortable but have disadvantages in terms of optimum road-holding.
KONI FSD: Frequency Selective Damping. A revolutionary new technique whereby the benefits of both types of ride are combined in one perfect shock absorber. Banishing the disadvantages of the past.
FSD shock absorbers: a smart suspension system adjusting automatically to road conditions as well as driving style.
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Havent got them but, Ive heard thay are spot on on standard springs :evil:
However i went to the autosport show at the NEC 2 weeks ago and spoke to the man on the koni stand.
He said thay are no good for cars with lowering springs. He did inform me that koni are working on an fsd shock especially for cars with lowering springs and it should be available in a year or so :wink:
Hope this helps.
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thanks for that. think i need some suspension lessons on whats what !
my car is currently standard - ive no desire to necessariliy lower it just to really improve the handling, what do you think -
Ends the compromise between comfort and handling Can be integrated in conventional damper layouts No need for sensors, cables, or other electronic devices Creates an additional variable in fine-tuning the car’s behaviour Quick and easy to develop for existing suspensions Damper cost efficient Can be used with existing springs or aftermarket ones up to a drop of35mm
Kit £370.15
Fitting £200
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thanks for that. think i need some suspension lessons on whats what !
my car is currently standard - ive no desire to necessariliy lower it just to really improve the handling, what do you think -
Ends the compromise between comfort and handling Can be integrated in conventional damper layouts No need for sensors, cables, or other electronic devices Creates an additional variable in fine-tuning the car’s behaviour Quick and easy to develop for existing suspensions Damper cost efficient Can be used with existing springs or aftermarket ones up to a drop of35mm
Kit £370.15
Fitting £200
I know you can use fsd's with lowering spring people have done it: the man from koni just doesnt recommend it.
I would go for koni yellow sport dampers or eibach pro dampers and defo get some lowering springs to sort out the body roll of the fat mk4 :grin:
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Got them on my Mk5, really good and I would reccommend them and use them myself again.
FYI I have lowered springs also and they are fine with this, I think the problem is when they are lowered too much. FSD and Eibach are a perfect match and this is sold in a set but others like H&R (which give the same drop) are prefectly fine.
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thanks for thatt, really appreciate your comments as about to book this :
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Koni FSD`s and Eibach Pro springs
These are £315.00 + VAT for FSD`s and £121.86 + VAT for the Eibach pro springs
Fitting would be £167.50 + VAT and this includes the geo set up and adjust
This would take approx 4 hours including the geo
Then do the Powerflex wishbone bushes
Front bushes £13.55 each + VAT requires 2
Rear bushes £15.25 each + VAT requires 2
Fitting of the bushes £99.00 + VAT
Takes 2 hours (would require a geo done , but as you are having the springs and shocks fitted we have already got the price and time in fitting the springs and shockers)
Front ARB
This is the front subframe off
£185.00 + VAT for the front bar , this is a larger one @ 25mm instead of the 19mm as standard
£99.00 + VAT for fitting , again would require geo set up , but this is in the springs and shockers
Labour on this is 2 hours
Rear ARB
There are 2 sizes to choose from 25mm @ £185.00 + VAT or 28mm for £195.00 + VAT
Both are very good and this will bring you a major improvement to the back end as your car does not have one as standard
Some people say it can be a tad harsh with the large one , others say ‘ only £10.00 difference you may as well go for the larger one
Either way this is up to you , if it was me , I would do the 25mm one
Labour on this would be £49.50 + VAT
1 hour
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sounds like your going for the job lot, should make a nice difference
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yeah cheers, cheaper than getting a new car with better handling so thought id see what could be done.
already putting about 200 through a remap so if this works out well, itll be the best of both worlds.
im just a little concerned it will be uncomfy !
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I have H&R + FSD's and its firmer but still comfortable and not too bad at all, handles better mind you so you there is always a little give and take.
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cheers - will go for it, sounds great
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Got them on my Mk5, really good and I would reccommend them and use them myself again.
FYI I have lowered springs also and they are fine with this, I think the problem is when they are lowered too much. FSD and Eibach are a perfect match and this is sold in a set but others like H&R (which give the same drop) are prefectly fine.
Like i said it can be done. But if koni are working on FSD dampers for lowered cars must have been a prob with some cars?
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ive discussed this with the people that are about to do the quote and they suggested that its fine as long as dont go lower than 30mm ?
what do you think ?
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ive discussed this with the people that are about to do the quote and they suggested that its fine as long as dont go lower than 30mm ?
what do you think ?
Well when i was going to get FSD's i also spoke to shaun at AMD Technik, He said you can fit them, and that there was a few probs with lowered car when the spring would somtimes move from the strut when driving. (prob like you say thay were lower than 30mm?)
Now im just telling you what i was told by koni, I didnt want to risk it which is why ive now got some eibach pro dampers.
Why dont you ring koni direct tell them what you want and make your decision from there.
Im not saying dont buy them or that thay wont work i just didnt fancy getting them and being disappointed or wasting £350. Also ive done hours or research into which dampers to go for and the eibach pros were among the top rated.
Hope this helps.
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thanks ill phone them tomorrow and have a chat
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ive discussed this with the people that are about to do the quote and they suggested that its fine as long as dont go lower than 30mm ?
what do you think ?
This is what I was told when getting mine, speak to Awesome GTI or Big Boy Toys
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well its actually awesome gti that have recommended this set up - ive just come off the phone with them and am totally satisfied wafter chatting things through with them that itll be what im after so im going to go for the whole lot and a milltek exhaust system as well ! booking it in for about a months time....
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ive discussed this with the people that are about to do the quote and they suggested that its fine as long as dont go lower than 30mm ?
what do you think ?
This is what I was told when getting mine, speak to Awesome GTI or Big Boy Toys
Big boys toys is now AMD Technik :drool:, Ive already spoke to shaun and he said you can fit them along as its not more of a drop than 30mm as already said.
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Thanks very much - really appreciate you checking it out. any residual doubts have now vanished !
Thanks a lot. Cant wait to get it all done now
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Thanks very much - really appreciate you checking it out. any residual doubts have now vanished !
Thanks a lot. Cant wait to get it all done now
No probs :smiley: