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Title: R32 Turbo
Post by: Hurdy on 17 January 2008, 14:48
I thought I'd let this topic loose as there have been a few postings on other threads, but not a specific one for R32 turbo conversions.

Right then, Where can you get them from and how much do they cost?

I'll start the ball rolling.

Bought the Volkswagen Driver magazine today and there is a feature on an R32 with a low pressure single turbo conversion. 400bhp and 368lbft. It had been carried out by QST/MTM  http://www.qstuning.com/about.jsp?

Good article, but no performance figures.
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: jonathonturner on 17 January 2008, 15:23
sounds promising...

my bet will be 6 grand finished, then brakes upgrades so say another 1600... 5 secs to 60 and bad mpg.....proper q car though, and if kim at qst does it, you know it'll be right.

Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: Hurdy on 17 January 2008, 15:32
sounds promising...

my bet will be 6 grand finished, then brakes upgrades so say another 1600... 5 secs to 60 and bad mpg.....proper q car though, and if kim at qst does it, you know it'll be right.



With 150bhp more and 130lbft more, I would have said it would be a sub 4.5 second sprint to 60mph :undecided:
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: R32UK on 17 January 2008, 15:49
Is this just a tease thread??? Please stop it now!!! Thanks :cry:
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: joesgti on 17 January 2008, 16:00
why is the r32 so slow?? with a 3.2 V6 youd have thought it would be caperble of higher numbers concidering porsche usually use a 3.6 (400cc more) and yet you get so much more power, and it weighs less than a porsche??!! whats goin on??!!  :undecided:
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: Hurdy on 17 January 2008, 16:03
why is the r32 so slow?? with a 3.2 V6 youd have thought it would be caperble of higher numbers concidering porsche usually use a 3.6 (400cc more) and yet you get so much more power, and it weighs less than a porsche??!! whats goin on??!!  :undecided:

It all boils down to marketing and development costs and product placement :sad:

A VW that was as fast as a Porsche and cheaper than a Porsche with 4WD would take sales away from them and as Porsche own nearly 30% of VW then you begin to see the logic. :nerd:
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: joesgti on 17 January 2008, 16:11
why is the r32 so slow?? with a 3.2 V6 youd have thought it would be caperble of higher numbers concidering porsche usually use a 3.6 (400cc more) and yet you get so much more power, and it weighs less than a porsche??!! whats goin on??!!  :undecided:

It all boils down to marketing and development costs and product placement :sad:

A VW that was as fast as a Porsche and cheaper than a Porsche with 4WD would take sales away from them and as Porsche own nearly 30% of VW then you begin to see the logic. :nerd:

a-ha.......i understand.......but then surley what is the point of the R32?? they could make a 2.0 gti 4wd and tune the nuts out of it so its like an S3??!!?? (but better  :drool:)
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: joesgti on 17 January 2008, 16:13
still wouldnt mind one my self though   :rolleyes:  :smiley:
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: Hurdy on 17 January 2008, 16:17
why is the r32 so slow?? with a 3.2 V6 youd have thought it would be caperble of higher numbers concidering porsche usually use a 3.6 (400cc more) and yet you get so much more power, and it weighs less than a porsche??!! whats goin on??!!  :undecided:

It all boils down to marketing and development costs and product placement :sad:

A VW that was as fast as a Porsche and cheaper than a Porsche with 4WD would take sales away from them and as Porsche own nearly 30% of VW then you begin to see the logic. :nerd:

a-ha.......i understand.......but then surley what is the point of the R32?? they could make a 2.0 gti 4wd and tune the nuts out of it so its like an S3??!!?? (but better  :drool:)

Again it boils down to product development. The VW golf has had a V6 at the top of the range since the MKIII and so the natural development follows on in successive versions. I think personally that the MKVI will toll the death knell for the V6 in the Golf due to other pressures like Euro emissions laws and TAX liabilities. Plus the market for the V6 version will shrink as people become more aware of the environmental issues and turn to cars which are just as fast, but have smaller cubic capacities and alternative methods of power (hybrid, fuel cell, diesel etc) :nerd:
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: R32UK on 17 January 2008, 17:53
It seems to me that they just cant get more power out of the V6. otherwise i am sure we would have seen a quicker A3 3.2. I am also quite sure everyone is becoming speed obsessive on here!!

Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: Peskarik on 17 January 2008, 18:20
Back to the original question:

If you want to tune a German car you go back to Germany, as Germans are crazy about cars in general and their own cars in particular.

Relevant address:
http://www.hgp-turbo.de/
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: R32UK on 17 January 2008, 19:05
Back to the original question:

If you want to tune a German car you go back to Germany, as Germans are crazy about cars in general and their own cars in particular.

Relevant address:
http://www.hgp-turbo.de/
OK i didnt understand any of that!! But an headucated guess (little joke for u all there) would say a 400bhp one would cost about 10k
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: k4ith on 17 January 2008, 21:14
here was me thinking the purist R32 driver doesn't like them Turbo's.
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: alex_123_fra on 17 January 2008, 21:24
here was me thinking the purist R32 driver doesn't like them Turbo's.

Just wouldn't be the same would it  :grin:
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: stevieC on 17 January 2008, 21:49
The same but better,some of they twin turbo r32s are pushing 700bhp they sound sh!t hot.
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: alex_123_fra on 17 January 2008, 21:58
The same but better,some of they twin turbo r32s are pushing 700bhp they sound sh!t hot.

This actually sounds interesting.  Does anyone know if any engine internal modifications are needed?  Are these conversions reliable?  I'm surprised how they were able to fit a turbo and intercooler (albeit a small one) under the hood.

I wouldn't go for a 700 bhp version but the 400bhp one sounds tempting.  My main fear would be the extra stress on other components including gearbox, diffs, suspension, engine mounts, internals etc.  One would probably need to uprate most things. 
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: Hurdy on 17 January 2008, 22:01
The same but better,some of they twin turbo r32s are pushing 700bhp they sound sh!t hot.

This actually sounds interesting.  Does anyone know if any engine internal modifications are needed?  Are these conversions reliable?  I'm surprised how they were able to fit a turbo and intercooler (albeit a small one) under the hood.

I wouldn't go for a 700 bhp version but the 400bhp one sounds tempting.  My main fear would be the extra stress on other components including gearbox, diffs, suspension, engine mounts, internals etc.  One would probably need to uprate most things. 

Grab yourself the Volkswagen driver magazine for this month (as posted earlier :embarassed:) :grin: It is a five page feature.
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: stevieC on 17 January 2008, 22:10
Some of the twin turbo r32s are outdragging lambo gallardos on the strip.
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: Hurdy on 17 January 2008, 22:17
Seeing one at Inters with 565bhp go down the 1/4 mile, beating a Gallardo is easily on the cards. :cool:
Title: Re: R32 Turbo
Post by: R32UK on 19 January 2008, 14:25
here was me thinking the purist R32 driver doesn't like them Turbo's.

But a 5dr everyday usable car which will wee wee over most porsches does sound soooo tempting!!

I wounder if i could live with that terrrible turbo lag??? :grin: :grin: