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Title: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: dubsport on 10 December 2007, 19:08
i was told today (by a rather c*ckey mechanic  :rolleyes: lol)

"if you spray a car matt black then it will be sh!t. if a bird sh!ts on it, or someone puts thier hand on it, it f**ks the paint up and you will have to spray it again, why do you think people laqcuer and polish their cars?"

Is this true? I t cut my car once a month to stop it blooming ... dont want to be spraying her every week  :laugh:
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: Dec on 10 December 2007, 19:59
Must be some way to protect it otherwise people wouldnt bother :rolleyes:
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: Jay on 10 December 2007, 20:10
Dec: Depends on how much people care about the paint work of their cars.
But surely some piggy poo or a hand won't damage the paint work that much that it will warrant a new paint job every few months?
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: dubsport on 10 December 2007, 20:37
well yeah .... thats kinds why im asking ?  :huh:
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: Mr Blue on 10 December 2007, 20:42
matt black does stain. can see what your mechanic means
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Post by: Dolly on 10 December 2007, 21:15
black primer.. seen it on an old mini by me its well cool, never seen a golf in it though.. rat look maybe?
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: dubsport on 10 December 2007, 21:20
matt black does stain. can see what your mechanic means

hmm, if it got wet would it run do you think?

rat look maybe?

totally  :laugh: toying with the idea of a chess board bonnet  :grin:
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: Blazing Storm on 10 December 2007, 22:00
Why would you want to ruin a perfectly good MK2 Golf? :shocked:
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: JC on 10 December 2007, 22:21
basically, yes its true.

also water marks really bad that wont polish out cos its matt.

as said, why ??? if yours was a rat candiate then fairy snuff, but yours looks v tidy mate.

oh and how i know

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/chuff69/finished001.jpg)

 :wink:
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: Conker on 10 December 2007, 23:04
Oh my god, chuff is Street Hawk!!

(http://epguides.com/StreetHawk/cast.jpg)


Joking aside, nice bike Chuff.  My missus would castrate me if i came home with something like that.

Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: Thom89 on 10 December 2007, 23:59
Matt black will stain, and eventually turn white!   If you want a non gloss finish to your car, you need to go for a semi matt black, that is somewhere between a satin, and matt finish.
Matt paint is normal topcoat paint (non metallic) that has a chalk substrate added, the more you put in, the more matt the paint will go, till you eventually end up with a finish that resembles a black board. Years ago, Ford XRs had their door frames painted semi matt black, this was generally known as an "Eggshell finish"...matt, but not too matt, and no real cleaning problems...
If your golf still has its origional slam/headlamp panel fitted, that's what you should be aiming for!
Tom
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: JC on 11 December 2007, 08:12
Joking aside, nice bike Chuff.  My missus would castrate me if i came home with something like that.



alas tis gone,  :cry: :cry:  hung up me leathers  :cry: but then Helllllllllllllllo GTi  :cool: :grin:
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: dubsport on 11 December 2007, 08:21
Why would you want to ruin a perfectly good MK2 Golf? :shocked:

as said, why ??? if yours was a rat candiate then fairy snuff, but yours looks v tidy mate.

the reason is:

someone has keyed the front off side panel
reversed into the drivers door (and drove off)
dent in the boot
bonnet is folded where someone has tried to get in (has bonnet lock so they couldnt)
keyed along the rear nearside quatre
dent in the passenger door
and its that horrible faded red colour ... cmaeras are good at lying ;)
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: JC on 11 December 2007, 08:47
 :shocked:

should buy my driver and strip it for spares  :wink:
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: dubsport on 11 December 2007, 20:37
id have that off you straight away mate but oxford is quite a while and i dont have a flat bed as i guess it would have to be trailored away?
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: JC on 11 December 2007, 20:43
yes mate, thats why its still here  :cry:
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: lewis1641 on 12 December 2007, 10:39
i am also speaking from experience too as i had a matt black camper 5 or 6 years ago.

it does mark and stain really easily but if you are going for a ratter then does it really matter (rap not intended but accepted!)

if i had any areas that looked really mank i just rubbed it down and rattle canned it! no it didnt look amazing and no i didnt care. it scared children, chavs asked why i did it and my parents thought i'd lost the plot (it was a tidy van beforehand!) that was good enough for me
Title: Re: is this true?
Post by: dubsport on 12 December 2007, 16:01
got some pis of the damaged areas ...

this part is on the rear nearside quater, above the weel arch, its approx 12" long

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/nhoyglun/0705200030.jpg)

This is the dent / scratch on the passenger door, its about and 1cm but quite deep

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/nhoyglun/0705200032.jpg)

Not sure if it shows at all the the crease in the bonnet,

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/nhoyglun/0705200035.jpg)

the keyed front offside wing / drivers door the keying is approx 18"

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/nhoyglun/0705200036.jpg)

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/nhoyglun/0705200037.jpg)

and lastly not sure if it will show up, but the dent in the door (think someone had booted it or reversed into it?)

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/nhoyglun/0705200039.jpg)
 
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: dubsport on 12 December 2007, 16:09
oh and you can see the pink colour in the pics  :laugh:
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: Blazing Storm on 12 December 2007, 16:17
I know how you feel Dubsport. I had some van put a massive dent and long scratch in my drivers door just after buying the car (car was parked up and he obviously drove off). I have several other dents on the car, though smaller, and a few rust spots in places. I'm going for a full respray in the same green because I love it. I just don't see why you want matt black when you could have a much nicer colour and finish.
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: dubsport on 12 December 2007, 18:33
mainly because im a poor student lol just figured it would be cheaper than a complete respray in tornado red, plus i really like matt black cars :)

what do you guys suggest, get the bumpers colour coded, maybe buy a new drivers door and get the key marks blown out? (anyone know ruff prices for that?  :undecided:)

this is how she stands at the moment,

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/nhoyglun/0705200018.jpg)
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: lewis1641 on 12 December 2007, 18:40
dont do it. there's not enough blackness in the world!
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: lewis1641 on 12 December 2007, 18:41
plus yuor silver grill trim would look great against the matt black
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: Jay on 12 December 2007, 20:03
plus yuor silver grill trim would look great against the matt black

Are you crazy foo?!

Red grille trim FTW!  :grin:
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: golf8v on 12 December 2007, 20:19
i had my golf doors done inside and out and roof and front wings for 450, thats tornado red look at my dub project for pics
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65006.10 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65006.10)
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: dubsport on 13 December 2007, 09:28
would satin black be as bad as the matt black?  :undecided:
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: dabill on 13 December 2007, 09:52
mate, just spray it matt black, take your time, rub it all down first like and pop all teh windows out and do a propper job.

then when its starts to look a bit shabby, either but some cans and touch it up, or go to local supermarket, but some chalk sticks and have some fun! love seeing cars with chalk writing all over, looks special!
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: ...joe on 13 December 2007, 19:49
whatever colour you paint it, the dents will still be there. save your money for the next car. even if you matt black it it'll take a f**k load of rattle cans or you'll have to borrow a compressor. for me, for that effort i'd wait and do it properly or wait for a new car.
Title: Re: is this true? *pics added of keyed areas*
Post by: Jay on 13 December 2007, 22:15
whatever colour you paint it, the dents will still be there. save your money for the next car. even if you matt black it it'll take a f**k load of rattle cans or you'll have to borrow a compressor. for me, for that effort i'd wait and do it properly or wait for a new car.

I agree with joe... Take your time, good things come to those who wait  :wink: Hence why it's gonna take me so long to get mine sorted :)