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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Manu_R32 on 30 August 2007, 12:15
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Found this on Pistonheads and was rather confused lol, first is it any ones of this forum and how is it possible to put brakes from a porsche onto a GTI??
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/214365.htm
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few people done this to their MKIV's so its entirely possible; not sure what you need altogether, i think new hubs are required plus the carriers and calipers (obviously!) also think you need at least 18 inch wheels for everything to fit!!
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few people done this to their MKIV's so its entirely possible; not sure what you need altogether, i think new hubs are required plus the carriers and calipers (obviously!) also think you need at least 18 inch wheels for everything to fit!!
But is there like a point to it....couldnt you just get yourself a set of brembo's lol
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im guessing its a status thing lol porsche is expencive and shows money brembo doesnt really (tho they are bloody expecive lol) u could say why do they put porche rims on e.t.c :rolleyes:
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I wouldn't recommend Porsche brakes personally. Had nothing but trouble with them on my Boxster. Rear discs continually rusted on the inboard side. You really needed to use them hard to keep the discs clean :rolleyes:
There are also inherent problems due to corrosion between the alloy callipers and the stainless steel brake pad guides. Corrosion results and prevents the pads moving cleanly on the guides, thereby reducing the braking efficiency and resulting in rust build up on the disc surface, particularly the inboard rears, but also on the fronts to a lesser degree. Had one set of discs replaced under warranty and had to replace all 4 discs pads again before I sold the car. Not that expensive but at over £750/set at OPC prices :shocked: better to get them done by an independent specialist.
I would go with AP or Brembo personally. RR's look the dogs I must admit. Standard brakes good enough for my GTI at the moment though :wink:
Cass
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Um.
Why would you want to upgrade the stock breaks? They brilliant.
We did a test while we were away. (Must still post pics) and my dad was driving and before we went onto a mountain pass my dad knew really well (Naturally we were gonna have some fun) my dad told us to all hold on and at about 100km per hour he slammed on breaks and then turned hard to the right taking a turn before flooring the car. Im terribly sorry. But when the Dvd Player goes flying. (Its strapped down how can it move??) and we all end up a few inches from the windscreen without even a screech from the tyres. No slide either. Thats brilliant. :evil:
Though mind you. The car is a year old. Its its first time since we got it that it has left Cape Town and did a 600km trip with ease. We only used one tank of fuel!!! BAck to the original topic :rolleyes:
I see no reason to upgrade. Rather get some decent tyres. We got Bridgestone and only "managed" to get the car to drift once :sad:
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Not that i want to upgrade my brakes, i find them like WOW lol. Just dont really see the point of putting porshce brakes, although they do like nice, the drilled brakes look :) But oh well, what ever floats ur boat i guess
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Get a pair of those RS4 Ceramic Brakes :laugh:
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I dont wanna upgrade brakes lol, but would they fit :laugh:
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Ask TT!!
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Why would you want to upgrade the stock breaks? They brilliant.
granted the stock ones are going to be good, but they aren't the best
uprated ones are going to have less fade and be able to stop quicker.
the only think i will say is if you do upgrade the fronts, do the rears too, otherwise you mess up the balance and your passengers will constantly eat dash
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stock breaks are not that good especially when they are hot. Try mountaneous roads, you'll see.
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stock breaks are not that good especially when they are hot. Try mountaneous roads, you'll see.
But we did :embarassed:
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Why would you want to upgrade the stock breaks? They brilliant.
granted the stock ones are going to be good, but they aren't the best
I agree. They don't have a particularly good "feel" at the pedal, and when the car is fully loaded, the standard anchors can feel everso slightly lacking, and in need of improvement.
uprated ones are going to have less fade and be able to stop quicker.
Agreed with less fade, but dont agree with stopping any quicker. You need to "think out of the box" to work out why. :wink:
the only think i will say is if you do upgrade the fronts, do the rears too, otherwise you mess up the balance and your passengers will constantly eat dash
Actually, no. There is no need to do the rears. The ABS system has something called EBD, which means "Electronic Brakeforce Distribution". :nerd:
Oh, and to all the posters/lurkers reading this, Porsche have always had close working relationships with VAG. One of their notable projects was the original Audi RS2 Avant. Indeed, Porsche brakes is quite a popular upgrade.
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http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi?make=Volkswagen&engine=2.0T&model=Golf%20V&submodel=&category=Braking&subcategory=ECS%20Stage%205&utm_source=vortex&utm_medium=forum&utm_content=BRAKE&utm_campaign=Mk5BBK
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http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi?make=Volkswagen&engine=2.0T&model=Golf%20V&submodel=&category=Braking&subcategory=ECS%20Stage%205&utm_source=vortex&utm_medium=forum&utm_content=BRAKE&utm_campaign=Mk5BBK
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Hmm, nice, but why didn't they use the Porsche OEM discs too!
BTW, what time is it down under? You must be on the night-shift!
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Um.
Why would you want to upgrade the stock breaks? They brilliant.
We did a test while we were away. (Must still post pics) and my dad was driving and before we went onto a mountain pass my dad knew really well (Naturally we were gonna have some fun) my dad told us to all hold on and at about 100km per hour he slammed on breaks and then turned hard to the right taking a turn before flooring the car. Im terribly sorry. But when the Dvd Player goes flying. (Its strapped down how can it move??) and we all end up a few inches from the windscreen without even a screech from the tyres. No slide either. Thats brilliant. :evil:
Though mind you. The car is a year old. Its its first time since we got it that it has left Cape Town and did a 600km trip with ease. We only used one tank of fuel!!! BAck to the original topic :rolleyes:
I see no reason to upgrade. Rather get some decent tyres. We got Bridgestone and only "managed" to get the car to drift once :sad:
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Huh!:huh:
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we do porsche upgrades at work, to fit ANY vehicle, 8 pot 6 pot 4 pot any colour
send me a pm if your interested
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we do porsche upgrades at work, to fit ANY vehicle, 8 pot 6 pot 4 pot any colour
Cool. :smiley:
send me a pm if your interested
Ahh, hang on a mo. There is no need for PMs on this forum. Without getting into the issues of "commercial" advertising and general spamming - for which you will get your fingers well and truely rapped - we would all like to see the detail of your offerings. That way, "peer-review" can establish what you are offering. :nerd: :smug:
You may then even get an invite for some official forum sponsorship! :wink:
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we have done upgrades on TT's, seats, only Vag though,
what you after? pics?
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Why would you want to upgrade the stock breaks? They brilliant.
granted the stock ones are going to be good, but they aren't the best
I agree. They don't have a particularly good "feel" at the pedal, and when the car is fully loaded, the standard anchors can feel everso slightly lacking, and in need of improvement.
uprated ones are going to have less fade and be able to stop quicker.
Agreed with less fade, but dont agree with stopping any quicker. You need to "think out of the box" to work out why. :wink:
the only think i will say is if you do upgrade the fronts, do the rears too, otherwise you mess up the balance and your passengers will constantly eat dash
Actually, no. There is no need to do the rears. The ABS system has something called EBD, which means "Electronic Brakeforce Distribution". :nerd:
Oh, and to all the posters/lurkers reading this, Porsche have always had close working relationships with VAG. One of their notable projects was the original Audi RS2 Avant. Indeed, Porsche brakes is quite a popular upgrade.
...I agree with T_T:
The stock brakes can fade and pedal response is poor compared with something like AP's.
I'm told (by AP) that you don't really need bigger brakes on the rear because the GTI isn't that heavy for their front stoppers and most (about 85%?) of braking is done on the front.
Ray West's road 'n track 270bhp GTI has Porsche brake components on 19" alloys but he milled the bells himself. I've driven it and braking is awesome but still smooth. He's got an international racing licence and so needs that level of performance on the track.
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/West_wheel.jpg)
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we have done upgrades on TT's, seats, only Vag though,
what you after? pics?
pics and prices i'm guessing :smiley:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/West_wheel.jpg)
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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we have done upgrades on TT's, seats, only Vag though,
what you after? pics?
Pics, prices, specs - but more importantly, just be open, and be able to discuss your "offerings" in the open forum, rather than the secretive method of PMs. :smiley:
I'm quite sure you will drum up more business in the open forum, rather than PMs! :wink:
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Why would you want to upgrade the stock breaks? They brilliant.
granted the stock ones are going to be good, but they aren't the best
I agree. They don't have a particularly good "feel" at the pedal, and when the car is fully loaded, the standard anchors can feel everso slightly lacking, and in need of improvement.
uprated ones are going to have less fade and be able to stop quicker.
Agreed with less fade, but dont agree with stopping any quicker. You need to "think out of the box" to work out why. :wink:
the only think i will say is if you do upgrade the fronts, do the rears too, otherwise you mess up the balance and your passengers will constantly eat dash
Actually, no. There is no need to do the rears. The ABS system has something called EBD, which means "Electronic Brakeforce Distribution". :nerd:
Oh, and to all the posters/lurkers reading this, Porsche have always had close working relationships with VAG. One of their notable projects was the original Audi RS2 Avant. Indeed, Porsche brakes is quite a popular upgrade.
...I agree with T_T:
Good, we are back to our harmonious state of mutual agreement! :smiley: :smiley:
The stock brakes can fade and pedal response is poor compared with something like AP's.
Whilst I havn't personally experienced any brake fade - yet, I do agree the pedal response is quite poor.
I'm told (by AP) that you don't really need bigger brakes on the rear because the GTI isn't that heavy for their front stoppers and most (about 85%?) of braking is done on the front.
All shortish cars, particularly hatchbacks are like that. Even on longer wheelbase saloons with big boots (trunks, for any yanks reading), normal braking efficiency is around the 30% rear to 70% front.
However, what is missing from those equations is the relatively new control and wildly varying distribution ratios caused by stability programmes. ESP does need to apply quite big forces to a single rear wheel brake, and it is not un-known for rears to fade!
Ray West's road 'n track 270bhp GTI has Porsche brake components on 19" alloys but he milled the bells himself. I've driven it and braking is awesome but still smooth. He's got an international racing licence and so needs that level of performance on the track.
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/West_wheel.jpg)
Those rims are lush - who makes them?
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(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/West_wheel.jpg)
Those rims are lush - who makes them?
....I think they've gone bust but were Southwest Wheels (? or similar name). They're not as nice close up in my opinion - The grooves on the spokes look hand done by an amateur. Ray's car was front cover and featured in Volkswagen Driver mag a while ago - I guess I could look it up for you but I want my breakfast, fast becoming brunch!! And I got a gig later. :cool:
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On a trip to Crail 1/4 mile last year i got a passenger ride in a MK4 GTi fitted with 18" Anni alloys and Porsche Callipers, not sure what the discs were but the stopping power was impressive.the was owned by GaryM and i am sure it was the same AUQ/180bhp model i had.
Seen the alloys on a MK5 R32 in VW Driver issue 79, also fitted with Porsche callipers, West tuning, alloys by River. very nice, i did try to track them down but with no luck.
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nothing secret going on just thought it was easier, but i dont know how to pm on this forum anyway,
prices will depend on application,
i need to know:
car make and model
wheel size and make
what caliper you require,4 pot 6 pot etc, most cars on here will be fine with 4 pot
porsche 4 pot monoblocks work very well, we are currently doing a mk4 golf upgrade at the minute.
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nothing secret going on just thought it was easier, but i dont know how to pm on this forum anyway,
OK. BTW, I think you need at least 20 posts before you can use the PMs.
prices will depend on application,
Alright, just as an example only, what would you recommend for a standard 200PS Golf V GTI with 18" Monza II rims - but which will be Revo'd (or similar) and Miltek'd in the near future?
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Alright, just as an example only, what would you recommend for a standard 200PS Golf V GTI with 18" Monza II rims - but which will be Revo'd (or similar) and Miltek'd in the near future?
....Interesting quezzie :cool:. The spec sounds familiar.
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nothing secret going on just thought it was easier, but i dont know how to pm on this forum anyway,
OK. BTW, I think you need at least 20 posts before you can use the PMs.
prices will depend on application,
Alright, just as an example only, what would you recommend for a standard 200PS Golf V GTI with 18" Monza II rims - but which will be Revo'd (or similar) and Miltek'd in the near future?
i have a leon cupra r with 300 bhp and find the standard 323 disks with the 4 pot brembos work very well, the 4 pot porsche monoblocks are even better than these and will benefit from these later on in your tuning path.
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nothing secret going on just thought it was easier, but i dont know how to pm on this forum anyway,
OK. BTW, I think you need at least 20 posts before you can use the PMs.
prices will depend on application,
Alright, just as an example only, what would you recommend for a standard 200PS Golf V GTI with 18" Monza II rims - but which will be Revo'd (or similar) and Miltek'd in the near future?
i have a leon cupra r with 300 bhp and find the standard 323 disks with the 4 pot brembos work very well, the 4 pot porsche monoblocks are even better than these and will benefit from these later on in your tuning path.
Pics of the Leon xD Please :smiley:
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nothing secret going on just thought it was easier, but i dont know how to pm on this forum anyway,
OK. BTW, I think you need at least 20 posts before you can use the PMs.
prices will depend on application,
Alright, just as an example only, what would you recommend for a standard 200PS Golf V GTI with 18" Monza II rims - but which will be Revo'd (or similar) and Miltek'd in the near future?
i have a leon cupra r with 300 bhp and find the standard 323 disks with the 4 pot brembos work very well, the 4 pot porsche monoblocks are even better than these and will benefit from these later on in your tuning path.
Pics of the Leon xD Please :smiley:
Ditto :drool:
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e159/rickchalcraft/SnM%20Pics/DSCF0104.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e159/rickchalcraft/SnM%20Shows/Yorkshire%20Show%2007/DSC05195Medium.jpg)
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that purple is proper pimp and the carbon bonnet goes really well with it.
only think i'll say is get her tinted, dark on the rear and light on the front, other than that sweet looking car!
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Very very nice colour & car! :smiley: Looks good
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Sweet :cool:
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sorry jurys out on that seat! ok maybe pay £1 at southsea arcade for a simular experiance and walk away after 90 seconds. thats more like it :wink: nice brake calipers though :evil:
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sorry jurys out on that seat! ok maybe pay £1 at southsea arcade for a simular experiance and walk away after 90 seconds. thats more like it :wink: nice brake calipers though :evil:
dont understand? sorry.
so who is interested in a porsche GT3 upgrade? we can do them at a discount if you do a group buy,
we dont have a set available yet for the mk5 golf, so the first person who would like a set at 'cost' send me your details, we will need you to visit us at our workshop 2 or 3 times for fitting and measuring, but at the end of it you will have a great set of brakes.
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Whats the exact spec of the GT3 stoppers then?
I am very interested and have been looking into an upgrade for a while.
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Whats the exact spec of the GT3 stoppers then?
I am very interested and have been looking into an upgrade for a while.
we usually run 314 or 323mm disks depending on wheel size etc, the callipers are 4 pot GT3 monoblocks. but like i said above dont yet have a kit for the mk5, we are doing one for the mk4 now and have a set up for the mk2 aswel. alot of our upgrades go onto audis like the S2 and the quattro.
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we usually run 314 or 323mm disks depending on wheel size etc
To be honest i was expecting a bit larger. The standard gti disk is 312mm anyway and the Brembo kits i have been looking at for the MK5 range from 328mm 2piece, a 330mm 1piece to a whooping 355 2piece.
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As any good (or bad :grin:) girl will tell you, it ain't only the size that matters, only the performance :shocked:
Cass
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we usually run 314 or 323mm disks depending on wheel size etc
To be honest i was expecting a bit larger. The standard gti disk is 312mm anyway and the Brembo kits i have been looking at for the MK5 range from 328mm 2piece, a 330mm 1piece to a whooping 355 2piece.
like i said its up to you on spec, we have 2 piece phaeton disks if you want and Audi RS6 calipers.
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Any chance of any photos, please?
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As any good (or bad :grin:) girl will tell you, it ain't only the size that matters, only the performance :shocked:
Cass
Sorry to cast doubt on the size of you member brakes, but the girls haven't been truthfull! :evil: :evil:
With brakes, size most definately does count.
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Those lying b!tches :grin: - always good to be informed - saw an AMG Merc CL65 last week with lovely alloys (RS4 like) and awesome brake callipers - massive they were :rolleyes:
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/11/cl65amg08_10.jpg
Made my eyes water and made the GTI's look inadequate :shocked:
Cass
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Those lying b!tches :grin: - always good to be informed - saw an AMG Merc CL65 last week with lovely alloys (RS4 like) and awesome brake callipers - massive they were :rolleyes:
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/11/cl65amg08_10.jpg
Made my eyes water and made the GTI's look inadequate :shocked:
Cass
V12 BiTurbo....rarrrrr :laugh:
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What brakes do the Audi Q7 have fitted then?
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What brakes do the Audi Q7 have fitted then?
Big ones that stop you :laugh:
Seriously though I've looked all over the Audi site and even downloaded the bl00dy PDF file for it and there's still no info on the brakes
http://www.audi.co.uk/audi/uk/en2/new_cars/q7.html