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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Peskarik on 27 August 2007, 09:27
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I am confused. :embarassed:
Here in Switzerland I tank Shell V-power 100 (I assume it is 99 or better RON and has some special additives, compared to other's 98 fuel).
In France they have only Shell V-power 98.
Is it the same fuel or not? :undecided:
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I recently got Shell V-Power 100 easily on the French autoroutes, north to far south, but not in the local rural stations.
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I recently got Shell V-Power 100 easily on the French autoroutes, north to far south, but not in the local rural stations.
I checked Shell's webpage www.shell.fr and they only mention V-Power 98. That is what is written on the pumps. I pumped at a station close to Paris, comung from the south, close to Auxerre.
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....Perhaps I was assumimg that pumps marked V-Power were delivering 100 octane fuel when in fact they're not.
What p!sses me off is that I've got Shell cards for several European countries but the points aren't transferred to my UK 'account'.
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....Perhaps I was assumimg that pumps marked V-Power were delivering 100 octane fuel when in fact they're not.
What p!sses me off is that I've got Shell cards for several European countries but the points aren't transferred to my UK 'account'.
On the big Shell station, where I got V-Power, the pump was marked V-Power 98. The station did not sell any other 98 fuel.
How come Shell has different V-power in different countries, that is strange. Shell also has V-Power Racing fuel, which should be 100 RON. Where the hell can one get that??? Strange marketing they have, Shell. :undecided:
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I've used Shell V-Power in Switzerland recently (marked as "100") and I felt the car ran better (perf and economy) than on UK V-Power. No idea if it's 100-octane or not but certainly good fuel.
And in Switzerland it's 75p a litre :smiley:
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Shell V-Power in Ireland is 95RON :cry:
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Shell V-Power in Ireland is 95RON :cry:
that's strange, ain't it?! No consistency at Shell... :undecided:
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What ron is the uk stuff?? :undecided:
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What ron is the uk stuff?? :undecided:
....Supposed to 99 but who the heck really knows.
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RR is correct, the UK V-Power is 99RON.
The BP Ultimate stuff also seems to vary between countries. In the UK, it is only 97RON, but in Germany, the Aral Ultimate is 100RON - don't worry, BP and Aral are the same company! :nerd:
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I am competely confused....
What are you guys talking about? In South Africa we just fill up with petrol.... Unleaded and bobs your uncle?
:undecided:
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I am competely confused....
What are you guys talking about? In South Africa we just fill up with petrol.... Unleaded and bobs your uncle?
:undecided:
just a bit of car onanism. 98RON is not enough, oh no, give us 100 RON or we start a war! :laugh:
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I am competely confused....
What are you guys talking about? In South Africa we just fill up with petrol.... Unleaded and bobs your uncle?
:undecided:
In europe we have Unleaded and 'Super Unleaded' the later having a higher RON value which helps keep your engine clean and also reduces wear. VW actually recommend you use a 98 RON or higher fuel which falls in the 'super unleaded' catagory.
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Thanks guys. We have normal unleaded and then some unleaded thing with a additive...... For them older cars
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Usual aint it. Here in uk they brand it as best fuel eva. And in fact it aint know better than tesco cheap stuff.
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I am competely confused....
What are you guys talking about? In South Africa we just fill up with petrol.... Unleaded and bobs your uncle?
:undecided:
In europe we have Unleaded and 'Super Unleaded' the later having a higher RON value which helps keep your engine clean and also reduces wear. VW actually recommend you use a 98 RON or higher fuel which falls in the 'super unleaded' catagory.
Duzza, just to be really pedantic :wink: - there are three European standards for unleaded:
- normal "Unleaded" at 91 RON - but we don't get that in the UK
- "Premium Unleaded" at 95 RON - the standard UK brew
- and "Super Unleaded" which should be 98 RON or over - but in the UK we get a lesser quality of 97 RON
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Thanks guys. We have normal unleaded and then some unleaded thing with a additive...... For them older cars
Probably LRP, or Lead Replacement Petrol
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Thanks guys. We have normal unleaded and then some unleaded thing with a additive...... For them older cars
Probably LRP, or Lead Replacement Petrol
Yup. What he said ^^^^^^^
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I really wonder if that V-power petrol is better than any other 98 RON... We know that oil companies like to collude on pricing etc. Why would not they lie about the contents of the fuel, who's checking them? It may all be just advertising to charge higher price for the god ole 98. :undecided:
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....Yes, but the oil companies also compete with each other (don't they?) and such advertised additional features gain market share. I buy Shell out of family loyalty because a now deceased relative of mine was a senior in the company and because I believe what I'm told about V-Power being particularly good for my car.
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....Yes, but the oil companies also compete with each other (don't they?) and such advertised additional features gain market share. I buy Shell out of family loyalty because a now deceased relative of mine was a senior in the company and because I believe what I'm told about V-Power being particularly good for my car.
I hope you are right, because I tank exclusively Shell V-Power.
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I hope you are right, because I tank exclusively Shell V-Power.
....So do I. Have done so for 39,000 miles. Forced to get some BP Ultimate on one occasion and felt it didn't have the edge but that's probably a placebo and not a scientific conclusion.
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I hope you are right, because I tank exclusively Shell V-Power.
....So do I. Have done so for 39,000 miles. Forced to get some BP Ultimate on one occasion and felt it didn't have the edge but that's probably a placebo and not a scientific conclusion.
it most definitely is placebo. I am statistician. :smiley:
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I really wonder if that V-power petrol is better than any other 98 RON... We know that oil companies like to collude on pricing etc. Why would not they lie about the contents of the fuel, who's checking them? It may all be just advertising to charge higher price for the god ole 98. :undecided:
The RON level, or octane rating, is tested to specific EU standards. The actual RON number, either displayed on the pump, or declared in the country-specific advertising, will (or should!) be regularly tested by the local relevent Trading Standards laboratories.
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....Yes, but the oil companies also compete with each other (don't they?) and such advertised additional features gain market share.
You've hit the nail on the head - those companies with the largest advertising budget will achieve the greatest sales. It has nothing to do with weather the actual product is better than that of their competators. This explains why more Ford Moandeos are sold compared to Audi A4s - it really is a "no brainer" which is the better car, yet it sell less! :nerd:
I buy Shell out of family loyalty because a now deceased relative of mine was a senior in the company and because I believe what I'm told about V-Power being particularly good for my car.
But they all say they are "good for your car", weather they be BP Ultimate, Total Excillium, Esso whatever its called, Tesco 99, or Shell V-Power. However, only independent tests will actually prove which one is the best.
Another thing, if Shell V-Power is "better" than the rest, then why doesn't every Forumla 1 team, or every MotoGP team, or every rally team use it? It really is very simple, all the major fuel/oil companies employ highly qualified experts, and if they develop a fuel which is rated to 99 RON, then that fuel will perfom in accordance laid down by the appropriate specification. It is no different to say 504.00 speced oils, irrespective of the manufacturer!
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Well, until someone very conclusively proves that V-Power isn't good for my car, I'll be continuing with it. You know enough about me by now to probably realise that I follow my heart rather than my head - Otherwise I wouldn't have locked a screaming Captain Sensible in the garden shed when I ordered the GTI instead of a TDI. :smiley:
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Well, until someone very conclusively proves that V-Power isn't good for my car, I'll be continuing with it. You know enough about me by now to probably realise that I follow my heart rather than my head - Otherwise I wouldn't have locked a screaming Captain Sensible in the garden shed when I ordered the GTI instead of a TDI. :smiley:
ROTFLMAO