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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: 2007GTI on 28 July 2007, 21:48
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I've been researching up-rated replacement Halogen headlights and I found an old post from TT who said Philips Vision Plus 50% are good and apparently don't look chav!
The Philips website is pretty good and informative:
http://www.lighting.philips.com/in_en/consumer/carlighting/1_car_lighting/car_which_lamp_to_buy.php?main=gb_en&parent=89083467512&id=in_en_car_lighting&lang=en
Has anyone fitted any of these Philips H7 bulbs and what could you recommend?
Thanks in advance. :nerd:
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54 looks and no replies! :-(
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i got some Vision Plus in my MKIV; big improvement over the standard bulbs; can see at least 25% further down the road
:afro: from me :smiley:
EDIT - Got the Osram Silver Stars, not the vision plus DOH!
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cheers! :smiley:
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I have these in my GTI, work fine, a fair bit brighter and easy to fit! Not as good as factory fit zenons but a marked improvement on standard bulbs. :smiley:
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I've tried Philips vision plus and Osram's Silver stars, and found them both a worthwhile upgrade, and the Osram's were the slightly better of the two.
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Do I take it these give off a much whiter light than standard bulbs?
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I've tried Philips vision plus and Osram's Silver stars, and found them both a worthwhile upgrade, and the Osram's were the slightly better of the two.
thanks CC, why were the osrams better?
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I fitted Philips x-treme vision bulbs a few months ago, they are brighter but hard to tell if they live upto Philips claims of 80% more light ? Auto express seemed to rate them highly. Still sorry I did nt get xenons...If TT still ain't around is now a good time to ask about Hella s retro fit Xenons ?!
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I ordered the Osram's today, as they seem to have the most recent accolades, so I'll let you all know what I think. :nerd:
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I've tried Philips vision plus and Osram's Silver stars, and found them both a worthwhile upgrade, and the Osram's were the slightly better of the two.
thanks CC, why were the osrams better?
Sorry for the delay in answering you 2007, I can only say they had a whiter crisper light when compared to the Phillip's, that's not to say the Phillips were not good, because they are, just the Osrams a bit better IMO.
You made the right choice. :cool:
Are you changing all four, or just the dipped.
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I've tried Philips vision plus and Osram's Silver stars, and found them both a worthwhile upgrade, and the Osram's were the slightly better of the two.
thanks CC, why were the osrams better?
Sorry for the delay in answering you 2007, I can only say they had a whiter crisper light when compared to the Phillip's, that's not to say the Phillips were not good, because they are, just the Osrams a bit better IMO.
You made the right choice. :cool:
Are you changing all four, or just the dipped.
just dipped for now, thanks for your advice! :grin:
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Could you link to the exact bulbs you went for as I am geting confused with all the different blue versions etc.
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Could you link to the exact bulbs you went for as I am geting confused with all the different blue versions etc.
they are called Osram Silver Stars 50%
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Could you link to the exact bulbs you went for as I am geting confused with all the different blue versions etc.
they are called Osram Silver Stars 50%
H7's for the golf :smiley:
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I've tried Philips vision plus and Osram's Silver stars, and found them both a worthwhile upgrade, and the Osram's were the slightly better of the two.
thanks CC, why were the osrams better?
Sorry for the delay in answering you 2007, I can only say they had a whiter crisper light when compared to the Phillip's, that's not to say the Phillips were not good, because they are, just the Osrams a bit better IMO.
You made the right choice. :cool:
Are you changing all four, or just the dipped.
just dipped for now, thanks for your advice! :grin:
just put the my new Osram Silverstar H7's on dipped beam and they are good. Definitely a nice bright white light and they light up the road more. However it does look a bit strange with the main beams yellowly still, so I'll change them now too!
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OUCH! How hard are the side light bulbs to get out? My hand really hurts! When I was sent the H7's I was also sent some new sidelight bulbs for free. I have since found out they are known as W5W, however the ones I was sent are blue and dont really match the white light of the osram silverstars, so does anyone have any suggestions of the best match to silverstars for the sidelight bulb? :nerd:
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OUCH! How hard are the side light bulbs to get out? My hand really hurts! When I was sent the H7's I was also sent some new sidelight bulbs for free. I have since found out they are known as W5W, however the ones I was sent are blue and dont really match the white light of the osram silverstars, so does anyone have any suggestions of the best match to silverstars for the sidelight bulb? :nerd:
Deffo a skined knuckle job, I did mine in the dead of winter :cry: glad you like your new candels :cool:
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Just fitted my new Osram Silver Stars, and not sure if its just me but i didn't think there was that much difference :undecided:
Might see a difference when its dark?
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I've tried Philips vision plus and Osram's Silver stars, and found them both a worthwhile upgrade, and the Osram's were the slightly better of the two.
thanks CC, why were the osrams better?
Sorry for the delay in answering you 2007, I can only say they had a whiter crisper light when compared to the Phillip's, that's not to say the Phillips were not good, because they are, just the Osrams a bit better IMO.
You made the right choice. :cool:
Are you changing all four, or just the dipped.
I just fitted silverstars to the main beam, all matches now! also put in the blue (white light) sidelights they gave me. :grin:
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Fancy listing the details of all 3 types required to convert the whole look to 'Xenon white'?
H7's for dipped....
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This is the the site i got mine from. They list all the bulbs you did for every car.
http://www.xenondirect.com:80/
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H7 dipped, H7 main, W5W sidelight
I am currently using Halfrauds Ultra Blue, which give the whitest light of any bulb I have used, and compared to Philips Blue Vision etc which are still fairly yellow imo. Unfortunately they are a headlight melting 80W so somewhat illegal..
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H7 dipped, H7 main, W5W sidelight
I am currently using Halfrauds Ultra Blue, which give the whitest light of any bulb I have used, and compared to Philips Blue Vision etc which are still fairly yellow imo. Unfortunately they are a headlight melting 80W so somewhat illegal..
As anyone tried these "PowerMad 130watt" http://www.xenondirect.com/product.php?productid=16160&cat=289&page=1
I wouldn't mind giving them a try, but dont want to melt the headlight?
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This is the the site i got mine from. They list all the bulbs you did for every car.
http://www.xenondirect.com:80/
They list the golf as needing H1 main beams but someone else mentioned H7 for both main and dipped :undecided: :undecided:
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its H7 for both dipped and main beam, I just fitted them. :nerd:
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H7 dipped, H7 main, W5W sidelight
I am currently using Halfrauds Ultra Blue, which give the whitest light of any bulb I have used, and compared to Philips Blue Vision etc which are still fairly yellow imo. Unfortunately they are a headlight melting 80W so somewhat illegal..
As anyone tried these "PowerMad 130watt" http://www.xenondirect.com/product.php?productid=16160&cat=289&page=1
I wouldn't mind giving them a try, but dont want to melt the headlight?
The lenses get pretty hot with 80W, so I would not want to try 130W. Not least as to what it may to to the wiring with the extra current drawn
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If TT still ain't around is now a good time to ask about Hella s retro fit Xenons ?!
Why's that then? Just because I take a sabatical, it don't suddenly mean retro-fit HIDs suddenly become legal! :rolleyes:
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Great lets have the Xenon argument, sorry discussion, for 3 weeks again :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Good to see you back TT.
So to clarify in order to upgrade the headlighting you need to swap 3 bulbs per side so as not to have any yellowish light. Is it worth doing this or is it purely for the look?
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Great lets have the Xenon argument, sorry discussion, for 3 weeks again :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Well, I'm not going there again. Too much blood was spilt the first time! :grin:
Good to see you back TT.
Thanks. :smiley:
So to clarify in order to upgrade the headlighting you need to swap 3 bulbs per side so as not to have any yellowish light. Is it worth doing this or is it purely for the look?
Well if you want them to all look the same colour, especially if you change them for something like "ice white". In terms of actual lighting performance, regarding the parking lamps, I doubt there would be any benefit, though.
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Ok...this is gonna sound really stupid. Im on the website now www.xenondirect.com Im hoping, in one pack of bulbs come a bulb for each headlight, as in one bulb for the left, and one for the Right. For the golf MK5, is it the H1 for the Main beam and H7 for the dipped beam? and what about the fog lights?? I am after that white kind of look that the xenons give, any help appreciated :) (sorry for being a noob)
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you need H7's for both main beam and dipped matey and W5's for the sidelights, I dont think you can alter the fogs!
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you need H7's for both main beam and dipped matey and W5's for the sidelights, I dont think you can alter the fogs!
Alright thanks m8 :)
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Just ordered the H7 - Osram SilverStar H7 x 2 for the Mainbeam and dipped...will let you guys know what i think when i get them....being a bit of a noob again....are they easy to fit or would it be better to take to a garage??
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Just ordered the H7 - Osram SilverStar H7 x 2 for the Mainbeam and dipped...will let you guys know what i think when i get them....being a bit of a noob again....are they easy to fit or would it be better to take to a garage??
Erm, if that is your actual car in your signature pic, then you will have an extremely difficult job to fit any H7 into the dipped beams, as you already have HIDs. :smug:
The main beams are relatively easy to fit, but the parking lamps can be quite fiddly.
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Just ordered the H7 - Osram SilverStar H7 x 2 for the Mainbeam and dipped...will let you guys know what i think when i get them....being a bit of a noob again....are they easy to fit or would it be better to take to a garage??
You really should change your sidelights too or you will still get the yellow tinge
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Just ordered the H7 - Osram SilverStar H7 x 2 for the Mainbeam and dipped...will let you guys know what i think when i get them....being a bit of a noob again....are they easy to fit or would it be better to take to a garage??
Erm, if that is your actual car in your signature pic, then you will have an extremely difficult job to fit any H7 into the dipped beams, as you already have HIDs. :smug:
The main beams are relatively easy to fit, but the parking lamps can be quite fiddly.
Unfortunatley no, thats not my car...i dont have xenons...i have the normal headlights.... :angry: (dam second hand cars) lol
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Just ordered the H7 - Osram SilverStar H7 x 2 for the Mainbeam and dipped...will let you guys know what i think when i get them....being a bit of a noob again....are they easy to fit or would it be better to take to a garage??
Erm, if that is your actual car in your signature pic, then you will have an extremely difficult job to fit any H7 into the dipped beams, as you already have HIDs. :smug:
The main beams are relatively easy to fit, but the parking lamps can be quite fiddly.
Unfortunatley no, thats not my car...i dont have xenons...i have the normal headlights.... :angry: (dam second hand cars) lol
OK, then the outer dipped beams may be a barsteward. It might be easier to remove the front bumper and headlamp and change the bulbs like so. Relevent manuals can be found in my extremely helpful sticky! :wink: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0
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Just ordered the H7 - Osram SilverStar H7 x 2 for the Mainbeam and dipped...will let you guys know what i think when i get them....being a bit of a noob again....are they easy to fit or would it be better to take to a garage??
Erm, if that is your actual car in your signature pic, then you will have an extremely difficult job to fit any H7 into the dipped beams, as you already have HIDs. :smug:
The main beams are relatively easy to fit, but the parking lamps can be quite fiddly.
Unfortunatley no, thats not my car...i dont have xenons...i have the normal headlights.... :angry: (dam second hand cars) lol
OK, then the outer dipped beams may be a barsteward. It might be easier to remove the front bumper and headlamp and change the bulbs like so. Relevent manuals can be found in my extremely helpful sticky! :wink: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0
Do you HAVE to take the bumper of...dont think my dad will be to happy fiddling round with the bumper of the car lol
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Just ordered the H7 - Osram SilverStar H7 x 2 for the Mainbeam and dipped...will let you guys know what i think when i get them....being a bit of a noob again....are they easy to fit or would it be better to take to a garage??
Erm, if that is your actual car in your signature pic, then you will have an extremely difficult job to fit any H7 into the dipped beams, as you already have HIDs. :smug:
The main beams are relatively easy to fit, but the parking lamps can be quite fiddly.
Unfortunatley no, thats not my car...i dont have xenons...i have the normal headlights.... :angry: (dam second hand cars) lol
OK, then the outer dipped beams may be a barsteward. It might be easier to remove the front bumper and headlamp and change the bulbs like so. Relevent manuals can be found in my extremely helpful sticky! :wink: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0
Do you HAVE to take the bumper of...dont think my dad will be to happy fiddling round with the bumper of the car lol
Well, either you (and a helper) will have to remove the bumper, or you will have to pay the garage to do so!
Front bumper removal is really quite common these days, on most cars. Providing you downloaded the relevent pdf manual, it is really quite straightforward. The fiddly bit will be the headlamp washers, but you dont have them. Just make sure you have a big enough piece of cardboard or carpet to lay the bumper on once you take it off.
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Just ordered the H7 - Osram SilverStar H7 x 2 for the Mainbeam and dipped...will let you guys know what i think when i get them....being a bit of a noob again....are they easy to fit or would it be better to take to a garage??
Erm, if that is your actual car in your signature pic, then you will have an extremely difficult job to fit any H7 into the dipped beams, as you already have HIDs. :smug:
The main beams are relatively easy to fit, but the parking lamps can be quite fiddly.
Unfortunatley no, thats not my car...i dont have xenons...i have the normal headlights.... :angry: (dam second hand cars) lol
OK, then the outer dipped beams may be a barsteward. It might be easier to remove the front bumper and headlamp and change the bulbs like so. Relevent manuals can be found in my extremely helpful sticky! :wink: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0
Do you HAVE to take the bumper of...dont think my dad will be to happy fiddling round with the bumper of the car lol
Well, either you (and a helper) will have to remove the bumper, or you will have to pay the garage to do so!
Front bumper removal is really quite common these days, on most cars. Providing you downloaded the relevent pdf manual, it is really quite straightforward. The fiddly bit will be the headlamp washers, but you dont have them. Just make sure you have a big enough piece of cardboard or carpet to lay the bumper on once you take it off.
How can i get that PDF manual on the link to save on my comp?? Expecting the lights any time this week so....should be prepared :)
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Just ordered the H7 - Osram SilverStar H7 x 2 for the Mainbeam and dipped...will let you guys know what i think when i get them....being a bit of a noob again....are they easy to fit or would it be better to take to a garage??
Erm, if that is your actual car in your signature pic, then you will have an extremely difficult job to fit any H7 into the dipped beams, as you already have HIDs. :smug:
The main beams are relatively easy to fit, but the parking lamps can be quite fiddly.
Unfortunatley no, thats not my car...i dont have xenons...i have the normal headlights.... :angry: (dam second hand cars) lol
OK, then the outer dipped beams may be a barsteward. It might be easier to remove the front bumper and headlamp and change the bulbs like so. Relevent manuals can be found in my extremely helpful sticky! :wink: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0
Do you HAVE to take the bumper of...dont think my dad will be to happy fiddling round with the bumper of the car lol
Well, either you (and a helper) will have to remove the bumper, or you will have to pay the garage to do so!
Front bumper removal is really quite common these days, on most cars. Providing you downloaded the relevent pdf manual, it is really quite straightforward. The fiddly bit will be the headlamp washers, but you dont have them. Just make sure you have a big enough piece of cardboard or carpet to lay the bumper on once you take it off.
How can i get that PDF manual on the link to save on my comp?? Expecting the lights any time this week so....should be prepared :)
Hover your mouse pointer over the link, then right click, and select "save target as" - that will store it on a directory on your own hard drive - http://volkswagen.msk.ru/body/g5/g5_63-02.pdf
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Just ordered the H7 - Osram SilverStar H7 x 2 for the Mainbeam and dipped...will let you guys know what i think when i get them....being a bit of a noob again....are they easy to fit or would it be better to take to a garage??
Erm, if that is your actual car in your signature pic, then you will have an extremely difficult job to fit any H7 into the dipped beams, as you already have HIDs. :smug:
The main beams are relatively easy to fit, but the parking lamps can be quite fiddly.
Unfortunatley no, thats not my car...i dont have xenons...i have the normal headlights.... :angry: (dam second hand cars) lol
OK, then the outer dipped beams may be a barsteward. It might be easier to remove the front bumper and headlamp and change the bulbs like so. Relevent manuals can be found in my extremely helpful sticky! :wink: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0
Do you HAVE to take the bumper of...dont think my dad will be to happy fiddling round with the bumper of the car lol
Well, either you (and a helper) will have to remove the bumper, or you will have to pay the garage to do so!
Front bumper removal is really quite common these days, on most cars. Providing you downloaded the relevent pdf manual, it is really quite straightforward. The fiddly bit will be the headlamp washers, but you dont have them. Just make sure you have a big enough piece of cardboard or carpet to lay the bumper on once you take it off.
How can i get that PDF manual on the link to save on my comp?? Expecting the lights any time this week so....should be prepared :)
Hover your mouse pointer over the link, then right click, and select "save target as" - that will store it on a directory on your own hard drive - http://volkswagen.msk.ru/body/g5/g5_63-02.pdf
It dont work...it says the file may be damaged or something :cry:
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It dont work...it says the file may be damaged or something :cry:
Read the entire thread first http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0 - and then ask again! :rolleyes:
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It dont work...it says the file may be damaged or something :cry:
Read the entire thread first http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0 - and then ask again! :rolleyes:
Smart guy lol
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It dont work...it says the file may be damaged or something :cry:
Read the entire thread first http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0 - and then ask again! :rolleyes:
Smart guy lol
Just had a quick browse through....do you need special "VAG Tools"??
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no, just your hands! :grin:
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It dont work...it says the file may be damaged or something :cry:
Read the entire thread first http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0 - and then ask again! :rolleyes:
Smart guy lol
Just had a quick browse through....do you need special "VAG Tools"??
No "VAG" tools, but you will need a decent Torx drive set, and plenty of patience for your first time.
So I take it you managed to download the PDF - what was stopping you?
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It dont work...it says the file may be damaged or something :cry:
Read the entire thread first http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=54324.0 - and then ask again! :rolleyes:
Smart guy lol
Just had a quick browse through....do you need special "VAG Tools"??
No "VAG" tools, but you will need a decent Torx drive set, and plenty of patience for your first time.
So I take it you managed to download the PDF - what was stopping you?
Firefox :grin:
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Bulbs still havent arrived :sad: Ordered them last Friday and siad it would take 2-3 Days.....
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Bulbs still havent arrived :sad: Ordered them last Friday and siad it would take 2-3 Days.....
They are hereee!!!! Going to try and fit them today if its not to much hassle :smiley:
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How did you get on? Refresh my memory what bulbs did you get in the end?
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How did you get on? Refresh my memory what bulbs did you get in the end?
Got the Osram H7's and my dad got a mechanic friend to fit them...not a problem, just opened the bonnet and fiddeled around with the headlamps, did not need to remove any front bumper etc....Havent been able to test them as it has just gone dark now ish and im about to go out for a lil spin...will let you guys know what i think :smiley:
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lol sorry, well there is quite a difference but maybe not the difference i was looking for. There HAS to be a way to retrofit xenons on my car, not really bothered about how much it will cost but there has to be a way it can be done, the xenons also look so much nicer :embarassed: There deffinatley is a difference thou, i feel as if i can see much further down the road and the lights shine like a bit wider, took the car on the high way and i guess thats where i saw the difference, cant really tell much of the difference whilst city driving :smiley:
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I have no knowledge of this product and you would still be missing the self leveling and washers so I post this just out of interest...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250153637332
As far as Halogen bulbs go in my experience the only way the manufacturers get a whiter light is to tint the bulb blue. So the darker the tint the whiter they look but then there is a trade off as the amount of light starts to drop off. As I mentioned earlier Halfords ultra blue are the whitest I have used, but even then you cannot replicate the 'rainbow' type effects you get with proper xenons (which makes them look so nice) as the halogen headlamp unit does not have a projector lens.
EDIT - some more info on that Hella product here, they also list a retro fit washer system and it implys they self level?
http://www.hella.com/produktion/HellaCOM/WebSite/Channels/Drivers/Vehicle_specific_Products/VW_Golf_V/Xenon_Halogen_Upgr_HL/Xenon_Halogen_Upgr_HL.jsp