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Title: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: SteveS on 27 May 2007, 17:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKxCT1UK_sE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKxCT1UK_sE)

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: Phil mcavity on 27 May 2007, 17:34
Hasnt this been posted already
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: SteveS on 27 May 2007, 17:35
i dont know, if i thought it had i wouldnt have posted it.. so sorry if it has!!!
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: Hurdy on 27 May 2007, 18:42
The last one posted was a shorter version that only lasted a couple of minutes. What I did notice was another video of an ED30 v's a BMW 530D on the same page on youtube. I clicked in it and it was some guy doing 150+ on an Autobahn in Germany in his ED30 :shocked:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: synnea on 27 May 2007, 18:58
I saw this on TV and just laughed. Yep its great the ED30 came out tops but the quality of the reviewing on 5th gear is so poor! They hardly mentioned it was the GTI edition 30 and one of the boys in the back seat I think it was says something to the effect, ' eh, yeah and its the special edition..and eh has an extra 20BHP over the standard GTI. I mean come on, so where did the other 10BHP go. Get your research correct lads!
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: SteveS on 27 May 2007, 19:01
I saw this on TV and just laughed. Yep its great the ED30 came out tops but the quality of the reviewing on 5th gear is so poor! They hardly mentioned it was the GTI edition 30 and one of the boys in the back seat I think it was says something to the effect, ' eh, yeah and its the special edition..and eh has an extra 20BHP over the standard GTI. I mean come on, so where did the other 10BHP go. Get your research correct lads!

he says "and er... theres an extra 20 horse power to beat the...." i dont think he ment over the standard gti, but the focus.. however i dont know how much a focus has....?
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: Peskarik on 27 May 2007, 22:26
I saw this on TV and just laughed. Yep its great the ED30 came out tops but the quality of the reviewing on 5th gear is so poor! They hardly mentioned it was the GTI edition 30 and one of the boys in the back seat I think it was says something to the effect, ' eh, yeah and its the special edition..and eh has an extra 20BHP over the standard GTI. I mean come on, so where did the other 10BHP go. Get your research correct lads!

oh, cmon, don't take it so seriously. They know what car it is, they know how much power it has. I mean, cmon, it's just a show. Keeep your knickers on, who cares what he said, that guy?

Also, I just read the review of Ed30 in Auto, Motor und Sport - german auto mag. They put Ed30, BMW Z4, Opel GT, MINI Cooper S, and Mazda MX-5 and test them together in different situations, including slalom etc. They say Mini is more agile, Z4 has better steering, MX5 has better shifts, Opel has better brakes. But overall, guess who wins?  :smiley:

We've chosen the right car, brethren!  :cool:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: illyun on 27 May 2007, 22:44
Quick questions guys... I'm a bit - very naive - when it comes to driving so I am wondering whether Tim Needall (is that his name - the guy who is driving that car on the 5th Gear clip) is driving the Edition 30 with DSG or manual... can you drive the DSG like that.  I have ordered a DSG you see and am definetly keeping it for life and will be taking it to the occasional track day.  Thing is I am wondering whether DSG inhibits that kind of driving and manual complements it or is that bs?
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: TeddyKGB on 28 May 2007, 03:02
It was manual
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: 08micsta on 28 May 2007, 08:38
GTI RULES!!!

Wether its edition 30 or just bog standard. :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: illyun on 28 May 2007, 11:08
Quick questions guys... I'm a bit - very naive - when it comes to driving so I am wondering whether Tim Needall (is that his name - the guy who is driving that car on the 5th Gear clip) is driving the Edition 30 with DSG or manual... can you drive the DSG like that.  I have ordered a DSG you see and am definetly keeping it for life and will be taking it to the occasional track day.  Thing is I am wondering whether DSG inhibits that kind of driving and manual complements it or is that bs?

Thanks Teddy... I wonder if it is easy to drive the car like that with a DSG gearbox.....?  Anyone - because as I said, I haaven't a clue about driving.
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: SteveS on 28 May 2007, 12:57
as its fwd, i would have thought its just a lot of speed into the corner, stearing in quicker and then using the exceleration right to keep it on the edge.. not rwd so its gonna be harder!! haha :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: Stiggy on 28 May 2007, 13:38

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I wonder if it is easy to drive the car like that with a DSG gearbox.....?  [/quote]

Thats a good question - you can be in control of the gears via the paddle shift, so maybe it can be done?
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: Hurdy on 28 May 2007, 14:53
Easy peasy,

High speed into the cornerl, lift off the accellerator and back on again as soon as you can. The tail flicks out through the inertia of the rear end and then hold it for as long as it will let you with a dose of opposite lock and then power out of the corner when the rear end bites. You have to be awake when the rear end bites as you can end up in a hedge backward if you don't catch it right (pendulum effect) :cool:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: Mew on 28 May 2007, 21:29
Otherwise known as lift-off oversteer  :wink:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: illyun on 29 May 2007, 01:12
I think I'm all too familiar with the pendulum effect  :embarassed: :embarassed:  Cost me a new set of alloys when I span out of control on a slippery roundabout in a VR6 2 years back... I thought it would have taken the bend, but I had been driving a mint Mk1 GTI before that and naively thought it would be the same as the Mk1  :undecided:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: Hurdy on 29 May 2007, 01:32
I think I'm all too familiar with the pendulum effect  :embarassed: :embarassed:  Cost me a new set of alloys when I span out of control on a slippery roundabout in a VR6 2 years back... I thought it would have taken the bend, but I had been driving a mint Mk1 GTI before that and naively thought it would be the same as the Mk1  :undecided:

Ouch!
Title: Re: Golf GTI Edition 30 vs Ford Focus ST
Post by: god lovesa trya on 31 May 2007, 23:48
Quick questions guys... I'm a bit - very naive - when it comes to driving so I am wondering whether Tim Needall (is that his name - the guy who is driving that car on the 5th Gear clip) is driving the Edition 30 with DSG or manual... can you drive the DSG like that.  I have ordered a DSG you see and am definetly keeping it for life and will be taking it to the occasional track day.  Thing is I am wondering whether DSG inhibits that kind of driving and manual complements it or is that bs?


hi i thought his name was Tiff needall ?
anyway like he says at the end of the clip YOU CANT BEAT THE BUILD QUALITY OF THE GOLF?????
END OV  :drool: