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Title: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Peskarik on 09 May 2007, 07:47
GTI:   height 1485, length 4204, weight 1355
Ed30: height 1469, length 4216, weight 1376

I picked these from www.carenthusiast.com

Is this a mistake of some sort, like GTI getting specs from normal Mk5?
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: p3eps on 09 May 2007, 07:51
I have the Golf brochure here - both the GTI and Ed30 have exactly the same size.

Length = 4216
Height = 1469
Width = 1759
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Peskarik on 09 May 2007, 08:01
Right, I guessed they made a mistake.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: p3eps on 09 May 2007, 08:06
The Ed30 is about 200kg heavier than the GTI though.
It depends which gearbox you have.  Probably the weight of the uprated turbo  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 09 May 2007, 08:17
The Ed30 is about 200kg heavier than the GTI though.
It  :grin:

200 KG's where, how, why ?
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Phil mcavity on 09 May 2007, 08:59
no i think its the edition 30 owners ego maybe? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 09 May 2007, 09:06
no i think its the edition 30 owners ego maybe? :rolleyes:

 :grin:
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: 2007GTI on 09 May 2007, 09:18
its all that red stiching, very heavy!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 09 May 2007, 09:27
its all that red stiching, very heavy!  :laugh:

Or the Golf ball knob. :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: mepal47 on 09 May 2007, 09:53
200kg  :embarassed: how much does a normal gti weigh ? the ed30 is 1357kg  or 1376kg with a DSG box
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 09 May 2007, 09:54
200kg  :embarassed: how much does a normal gti weigh ? the ed30 is 1357kg  or 1376kg with a DSG

About the same TBH
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: topher on 09 May 2007, 09:55
i think you'll find its the R32 thats 200kg heavier, not the ED30. (haldex, prop, diff etc.)
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Ollieb7 on 09 May 2007, 11:08
no i think its the edition 30 owners ego maybe? :rolleyes:

I take exception to that - i don't have a big ego - i'm just f#cking brill me! :wink: :grin: :smug:
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: paulm007 on 09 May 2007, 12:58
no i think its the edition 30 owners ego maybe? :rolleyes:

I take exception to that - i don't have a big ego - i'm just f#cking brill me! :wink: :grin: :smug:

So am I,  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Hurdy on 09 May 2007, 15:28
The Ed30 is about 200kg heavier than the GTI though.
It depends which gearbox you have.  Probably the weight of the uprated turbo  :grin:

I gather you have been looking at the back of the brochure, where it is commonly known that there is a typo with the weights. The ed 30 is 30kg heavier than the equivalent GTI, so I guess that could be a combination of heavy stitching and my big ego :rolleyes: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: p3eps on 09 May 2007, 17:32

I gather you have been looking at the back of the brochure, where it is commonly known that there is a typo with the weights. The ed 30 is 30kg heavier than the equivalent GTI, so I guess that could be a combination of heavy stitching and my big ego :rolleyes: :grin:

Yup... back of the brochure - and I was unaware of it being a misprint!  It just so happened the brochure was sitting on my chair!

It says:
GTI Manual unladen weight = 1336
GTI Ed30 Manual unladen weight = 1528
GTI DSG unladen weight = 1355
GTI Ed30 DSG unladen weight = 1547
(both are approx 200kg   :wink: )
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: illyun on 10 May 2007, 17:37
Weight gain or no weight gain, my Edition 30 is finally loosening up and its a revelation.  Still not as good as a daily drive as my R32 and the engine can never match the R32 engine but its got an extra shove after 4000rpm that wasn't there initially - and its more than just a shove, its a full on-rush of speed a bit similar to the Mk2 16v but in a completely different league.  It also sounds quite good when pushed, but smooth when driving normally.  All in all its the ideal weekend car - which is what I bought it for.  Shame mine is going to the dealers tomorrow - some mug is going to pay £3k more probably than I would have sold it for.  I'll have another in October though - exactly the same but with DSG.  I was going to save money and go down the broker route but I can't seem to get the same kind of savings as I was being offered 3 weeks ago - broadspeed and the others seem to have increased their prices by £500 so I might as well go to the dealer.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: barlimow on 10 May 2007, 18:34
Still not as good as a daily drive as my R32 and the engine can never match the R32 engine 
How come you reckon it's not as good as the R32? Currently debating the merits of R32 vs Ed30, so very interested to hear your thoughts.

Shame mine is going to the dealers tomorrow - some mug is going to pay £3k more probably than I would have sold it for.  .... I was going to save money and go down the broker route but I can't seem to get the same kind of savings as I was being offered 3 weeks ago - broadspeed and the others seem to have increased their prices by £500 so I might as well go to the dealer.
You getting rid already, surely you've only just sold the R32 (if it was a 56 reg)?  I noticed the brokers discounts reducing by quite a bit, Broadspeed only offering £500 now I think.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Ollieb7 on 11 May 2007, 11:35
All in all its the ideal weekend car - which is what I bought it for. 

Illyun - what do you have as a daily driver then - some lardy arse 4x4???  :undecided: A caterham / radical / classic is a weekend car - IMO the golf is a great week day car.
Best of luck with the house thingy - still think your mad selling so soon! :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: Stiggy on 12 May 2007, 00:01
its got an extra shove after 4000rpm that wasn't there initially - and its more than just a shove, its a full on-rush of speed a bit similar to the Mk2 16v but in a completely different league.  It also sounds quite good when pushed, but smooth when driving normally. 

I've noticed exactly the same with mine; i'm surprised at how the car happily accepts a heavily planted right foot as well as some "sunday driver" style driving.  Would be interested on your views about the difference in handling between the ed30 and r32.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTI Ed30: change in size
Post by: illyun on 12 May 2007, 21:40
All in all its the ideal weekend car - which is what I bought it for. 

Illyun - what do you have as a daily driver then - some lardy arse 4x4???  :undecided: A caterham / radical / classic is a weekend car - IMO the golf is a great week day car.
Best of luck with the house thingy - still think your mad selling so soon! :smiley:

What other cars?  Are there any other cars worth driving apart from a Golf GTI/R32?   :laugh:  I'm sure there are - Honda Integra Type-R, any Porsche except the Boxster (although I'm sure the Boxster is a good car), Audi RS4 etc..., Evo  :evil: etc... BUT I have owned about 20 cars in all - all Golf GTI/VR6/R32 bar two of them.  Its like when I had to choose a Summer runaround and thought 'what Mk Golf should I get?'   :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:  instead of 'what car should I get' ... I am thinking though of selling it - only bought it yesterday - and getting a Corrado VR6 just to see what the fuss is about.  The only other cars that I would consider are the Honda Integra Type-R, a Porsche 911  :evil: or an Audi RS4.... Saying that however, I think next year - if the Golf RSI comes out - will be my last Golf and I'll be moving on to new pastures - within VAG of course  :rolleyes:  However, you never forget your first love and mine's the Golf GTI and I'll have a mint Mk1, Mk2 and Mk5 Edition 30 in the double-garage/driveway for good.