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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: HA54SYM` on 08 March 2007, 19:48
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Well how long should I be running this in for?
My mrs has it at moment, and can't wait till tmz night so I can have another blast.
I reckon we will have near 400 miles on clock now, whats recomended?
Dave
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I never ran mine in had it since Early Jan, I had an Audi S3 and they said that modern engines don't really need running in like they did in the old days when I posed them the same question. I took it easy for the first 200 miles and now give it the occasional "work out" . I had the S3 for 5 years from new did the same and it didn't do it any harm and this is the same as I treated the new Ed30.....Have fun
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they say dont go over 3500 RPM for the first 1000 kilometres/miles, depends where you read it.
also dont thrash it when the car is cold, as it can damage the turbo.
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Well how long should I be running this in for?
My mrs has it at moment, and can't wait till tmz night so I can have another blast.
I reckon we will have near 400 miles on clock now, whats recomended?
Arrrrhhhhh - RTFM . . . :rolleyes:
Seriously, read the manual - it gives very clear instructions on how to correctly run them in!
Rgds
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I never ran mine in had it since Early Jan, I had an Audi S3 and they said that modern engines don't really need running in like they did in the old days when I posed them the same question. I took it easy for the first 200 miles and now give it the occasional "work out" . I had the S3 for 5 years from new did the same and it didn't do it any harm and this is the same as I treated the new Ed30.....Have fun
And that is completely WRONG. The owners manual has very clear advice, for the correct running in procedure.
Just make sure when you sell your Ed30, you advise prospective purchasers that you completely ignored the manufacturers running in procedures!
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Just out of interest, what does the manual say? I've finally got my delivery date (19 March), so I;ve stopped thining of options and started thinking about running in!
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I never ran mine in had it since Early Jan, I had an Audi S3 and they said that modern engines don't really need running in like they did in the old days when I posed them the same question. I took it easy for the first 200 miles and now give it the occasional "work out" . I had the S3 for 5 years from new did the same and it didn't do it any harm and this is the same as I treated the new Ed30.....Have fun
And that is completely WRONG. The owners manual has very clear advice, for the correct running in procedure.
Just make sure when you sell your Ed30, you advise prospective purchasers that you completely ignored the manufacturers running in procedures!
Agreed 100% with Teutonic. its one reason I would not buy a 1 year old car if I was to keep it for more than a year or 2. I always run my cars in. Not only for my benefit, but also for the benefit of future prospective owners. Even after its run in, I would never thrash the car until its warmed up - past 85 degrees C and that goes for all my cars - the old and the new.
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Ditto.
I can't see the point in ignoring the manufacturers running in instructions. It just means a little restraint for the first 1000 miles or so. If people are that desperate to give it some, then I suggest a nice long run in down the motorway and back a couple of times a week for 2 weeks at 250 miles a time and voila - 1000 miles are up and it will have been a couple of good outings to boot. Watch that oil level though
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I never ran mine in had it since Early Jan, I had an Audi S3 and they said that modern engines don't really need running in like they did in the old days when I posed them the same question. I took it easy for the first 200 miles and now give it the occasional "work out" . I had the S3 for 5 years from new did the same and it didn't do it any harm and this is the same as I treated the new Ed30.....Have fun
And that is completely WRONG. The owners manual has very clear advice, for the correct running in procedure.
Just make sure when you sell your Ed30, you advise prospective purchasers that you completely ignored the manufacturers running in procedures!
Agreed 100% with Teutonic.
Thanks. :smiley:
its one reason I would not buy a 1 year old car if I was to keep it for more than a year or 2.
Exactly. I got my fingers badly burnt on a dealer demonstrator I bought some years back! It had been severly abused by the "YTS" muppets that the dealer employed, in all departments, including sales and service! :angry:
I always run my cars in. Not only for my benefit, but also for the benefit of future prospective owners.
And I think most prospective future owners are genuinely interested on how the present owner treats their car!
Even after its run in, I would never thrash the car until its warmed up - past 85 degrees C and that goes for all my cars - the old and the new.
Oh - that is such important advice - just one little addition, I personally wait until the coolant reaches "normal" operating temperature, then add another 5 minutes. This is because the engine oil, being more viscous (thicker) than water, takes slightly longer to reach optimum operating temperature.
The amount of people I see caning their motors from a stone cold start - it beggars belief! :sick:
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That's where the little trick with the air con and reading the oil temp comes in handy. I think VW should have left the oil temp on the trip computer like the MK3 GTI, miss that! Makes it fun remembering all the codes though :wink:
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Forgot to mention..... IT'S REALLY HARD NOT TO HAVE A LITTLE PLAY!!! But I'm enjoying tootling around. I even had a Police car burn me off the other night after following me for a couple of miles. If he wasn't trying to get me to put my foot down, then I'm the POPE!
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I'm gasping to get hold of my car, but not looking forward to the run in period!
Under 3000 rpm for 1000 miles will be pretty difficult. I normally do about 5000 miles per year... but I think I'll have to go for a few long runs when I get this car as theres no way I can go for 2+ months without booting it!!!!
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I normally do about 5000 miles per year... but I think I'll have to go for a few long runs when I get this car as theres no way I can go for 2+ months without booting it!!!!
This is one of the very few times that I'm glad I do about 15,000 miles a year!
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Oh - that is such important advice - just one little addition, I personally wait until the coolant reaches "normal" operating temperature, then add another 5 minutes. This is because the engine oil, being more viscous (thicker) than water, takes slightly longer to reach optimum operating temperature.
The amount of people I see caning their motors from a stone cold start - it beggars belief! :sick:
Damn... :shocked: I never knew that. From now on, no foot down fun until 5 minutes after the oil temp is normal :cry:
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:grin: Wow didn't know it would create this much interest :laugh:
Well I have been running it in properly, its done near 600 miles now, all motorway, and as I do race a Turbo car then I know to let them warm up and also cool down, as this is just as important.
I have found the Turbo to spool up at around 3,000rpm so boost seems to be higher up the rev range, when does the normal GTi Turbo start to come on?
Dave
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definately best to wait 30 seconds before turning the engine off to let the turbo "cool" down
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:grin: Wow didn't know it would create this much interest :laugh:
Well I have been running it in properly, its done near 600 miles now, all motorway, and as I do race a Turbo car then I know to let them warm up and also cool down, as this is just as important.
I have found the Turbo to spool up at around 3,000rpm so boost seems to be higher up the rev range, when does the normal GTi Turbo start to come on?
Dave
I haven't been over 3000 rpm yet so hard to say. but I think the GTi hits peak torque at 1800 rpm so I think the turbo must be active way before 3000rpm??
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:grin: Wow didn't know it would create this much interest :laugh:
It's just like feeding fresh meat to pirahnas !!!! :grin:
Well I have been running it in properly, its done near 600 miles now, all motorway, and as I do race a Turbo car then I know to let them warm up and also cool down, as this is just as important.
But it is also important to vary the engine speed, rather than just sitting at a constant 3000rpm for 600miles or so, and then suddenly letting it rip full bore!
I have found the Turbo to spool up at around 3,000rpm so boost seems to be higher up the rev range, when does the normal GTi Turbo start to come on?
About 1800 rpm, hence the standard GTIs torque figures at a lower engine speed. :nerd:
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definately best to wait 30 seconds before turning the engine off to let the turbo "cool" down
Generally that is sound advice, and ideally on the GTI it should be adhered to.
However the GTI has an additional electric "after-run" coolant pump, which continues to circualate coolant around the turbo. It is ECU controled, and won't switch off until the turbo has been cooled adequately, and will even turn on again, should any heat soak build up.
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I'm considering driving to Scotland and back (from London) over Easter.
Obvo that gets my running in done almost in one go...but are there any issues in doing 800 miles in 3 days on young engine? (Of course I am observing guidelines for running in with regard speed/revs).
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Don't think so. just keep varying the speed. Hover between say 60 and 75 and keep easing off and speeding up to keep the piston rings expanding and contracting. This will help them bite into the piston walls and not glaze them over.
I drove to Wales like this once in a new car - not too bad if you don't get car sick!
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Don't think. just keep varying the speed. Hover between say 60 and 75 and keep easing off and speeding up to keep the piston rings expanding and contracting. This will help them bite into the piston walls and not glaze them over.
It's not road speed that is the issue. It is all to do with the actual engine revs. It is important to not only vary the engine revs, but also to actually raise the revs threshold gradually but progressively.
Here is a little table I personally use:
Audi S4 4.2 v8 New Car Running-In Schedule
0 - 300 miles up to 2,500 rpm / 1/4 throttle
300 - 600 miles up to 3,500 rpm / 1/2 throttle
600 - 800 miles up to 4,500 rpm / 1/2 throttle
800 - 1,000 miles up to 5,500 rpm / 3/4 throttle
1,000 - 1,200 miles up to 6,500 rpm / 3/4 throttle
1,200 - onwards max rpm / full throttle
I drove to Wales like this once in a new car - not too bad if you don't get car sick!
Wales has that effect on me too! :grin:
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Nice little rable Sean. I referred to 60-75mph as I know this works out to be about 2-3000 rpm in top gear.
I like the way that once you are past 1200 miles it is nothing but full gas max revs for you!
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Nice little rable Sean.
:laugh: :laugh:
I referred to 60-75mph as I know this works out to be about 2-3000 rpm in top gear.
Oh, speedo - now what can that be for ??? :wink: :grin:
I like the way that once you are past 1200 miles it is nothing but full gas max revs for you!
The only way to go! :evil:
A few brown-trouser moments occured when I got my S4 !!!