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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: easypeasy on 28 October 2006, 19:47

Title: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: easypeasy on 28 October 2006, 19:47

Selling my mk3 and looking for mk4s. Is the 1.8T the one to go for? I understand the 1.8T is the most economical and tunable compared to the V5 and VR6. Which handles best as I am led to believe the mk4 handling is slower than the mk3. I suspect the standard gti is probably slower than my mk3. I would buy a diesel but they there seems to be a price premium. Any comments or links to threads that might help would be appreciated. Surely this question has been asked before but I can't find it.

Easypeasy
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: >>Mart<< on 28 October 2006, 21:15
i get over 30mpg in my 1.8t and for 400 quid it can be tuned to over 200bhp
the v5 is quicker standard but costs alot to tune up same with the vr6




my 1.8t is for sale if ur interested  :grin:
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: Neaty on 28 October 2006, 21:53
definately go for the 1.8T, how about a nice silver one with RS4's  :wink: (martyn's)
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: Cliff on 28 October 2006, 21:58
I'd have to agree a 1.8Turbo is the way forward :laugh:
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: >>Mart<< on 28 October 2006, 22:33
definately go for the 1.8T, how about a nice silver one with RS4's  :wink: (martyn's)

like this possibly

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c380/martynlead/sideshot.jpg)
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 28 October 2006, 22:35
Turbo or no-go!! :grin:

ps Standard 180 bhp turbo will be quicker than the V5's & not far off the V6's (in the dry). :wink:

The non-Anniversary 180's can be had for the same money as the 150's, too!
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 28 October 2006, 22:39
ps & 180's (along with some newer 150's) will re-map to 225 bhp!!! :laugh:
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: easypeasy on 29 October 2006, 05:54
thanks folks, thought the 1.8T only had 150 bhp, from when did it get 180? The V5 still looks good but I understand it has a heavier block which effects the handling, is that right?
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: easypeasy on 29 October 2006, 06:02
I really must learn how to spell or use spellcheck, sould? Martyn like your mk4 not sure about the 18''rs4s, they look too big or is that just unhip of me, talking of unhip I was also looking for a ford f###s as they are supposed to be more reliable, are mk4s unreliable?
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: kniterider on 29 October 2006, 17:15
mk4's arent unreliable, tbh any brand of car has faults and the mk4 golf is one, along with every other mk of golf theyve made!!!, if there serviced and looked after by a owner who sorts things rather than 'lives with it' then youll get a good car, standard mk4 handling isnt fantastic but its isnt sh@t either depends on what your used to driving to compare it with, i went from a mondeo, to my mk4 gti, and the handling was ok, then i lowered it on springs and it was better... then when i fitted coilovers and up rated anitroll bars it was fookin great but you do suffer in the comfort stakes...

as for engines the 1.8 20v turbo is the engine for smiles per miles and for your wallet, the others take lots of cash to get super speedy unless you have money for a r32 etc outright... lol

 :laugh:
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: Neaty on 29 October 2006, 17:22
definately go for the 1.8T, how about a nice silver one with RS4's  :wink: (martyn's)

like this possibly

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c380/martynlead/sideshot.jpg)

why yes, just like that maybe
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: ub7rm on 29 October 2006, 17:41
I really must learn how to spell or use spellcheck, sould? Martyn like your mk4 not sure about the 18''rs4s, they look too big or is that just unhip of me, talking of unhip I was also looking for a ford f###s as they are supposed to be more reliable, are mk4s unreliable?

As kniterider says any car has its suite of problems, but the mk4 has a fairly limited range  of common issues, have a look on the vectra-sport forum and see the range of problems those guys have.  If i had to describe the mk 4 with one word it would be solid.  Unbelievably well built and engineered.  Remember,  the time it was released its competition was the ford escort and the third last generation astra and to be honest I think the mk 4 still makes the latest generation focus and astra look cheap.

Forget the focus, cheap mass produced s*#t!

But seriously have a look on focus forums and see what those guys are complaing off and compare to here where its pretty much the same few problems going round and round to compare reliability
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: >>Mart<< on 29 October 2006, 19:36
my gti has been trouble free apart from the rear wash/wipe which is fixed now
as kniterider says if you keep it serviced it will go on and on
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: easypeasy on 29 October 2006, 19:53
thanks everyone for your comments, sorry for mentioning the f word, this will be my 5th vw having owned a mk1 cab, a mk2 driver and mk3 gti and I still own a t t25 camper. Just trying to think laterally about what to get next and the f word came. Most journos seem to think its better than a mk4. I think I'd prefer the cache of a vw though and as I'm getting older older the insurance on a 1.8t or similar shouldn't be too bad.

Easy
Title: Re: moving from a mk3 8v gti which mk4 sould I get?
Post by: >>Mart<< on 29 October 2006, 20:44
if ur in manchester or near ur welcome to have a go in mine if it helps you to decide to get a mk4