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General => General discussion => Topic started by: cupra20v.t on 04 July 2006, 16:54
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i currently have a mk3 gti 8v and im wanting to put a 16v engine in it running twin 45's but what i want to know is does anyone know of where i can get an inlet manifold suited for carbs either weber or dellorto fitment.
and with regard to the engine what car is best to source the 2.0 16v
passat, jetta, golf
do they do a mk3 jetta 16v, a mate says there is such a thing but ive never seen one
cheers in advance.
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Wouldnt it be better to start witha mk3 16v?
Why is your name cupra 20v if u have a gti 8v?
Or u got 2 cars?
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I would start with a 16v too. else you'll just get loads of problems with swapping it over.
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name is cupra 20vt as i had a ibiza cupra beofre the golf, had to sell it to buy a house but here she is
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0047.jpg)
i know its best to start with a 16v but ive done to much and spent too much on the 8v to just sell it and start gain i will loose too much money.
im having loads of ides for engine changes, first was the 1.820vt with leon 6 speed box but the price for the engines was way too much, then then i was going to put a vauhall 2.0 litre 16v turbo lump in to the golf as i have the engine sitting in the garage but dont really want that type of mix vw with vauxhall. then a mat suggested a valver with twin 45s and a set of cams, but overnight i have been thinking of just putting a vr6 in there but a special vr6 :grin:
i dont mind the hassle but i know the giolf i have is a good one and its pretty much solid with no rust so buying a new vr6 or a 16v i would run the risk off getting a mutt. surley if i have a full vr6 golf the swapping over of the engine loom etc wouldnt be too hard, just straight forward.?
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putting a VR6 into a mk3 isn't hard. I've done one and it took me roughly a week (we had a couple of little issues and I wasn't on it all day every day)
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if its possible to put the vauxhall lump in do it, they flow a lot betterr than vw engines unfortunately :sick: even though they are the wrong way round :laugh:
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I've seen a redtop in a mk2 before on carbs...
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my mate has a redtop with twin 45 dellortos in a mk3 escort van, quick is an understatement. :laugh:
my only fear of putting the redtop turbo in, is that so many people have had major trouble with them, another mate had one in an astra and a valve bent and snapped and some how went through the block and messed up all the pistons and turbo got knackered,it cost him a few sheckles to fix.
i want reliability with speed/torque/nippyness. A vr6 would be heavy on juice and a redtop turbo a bit too unrelaible, i was thinking of using a n/a redtop but i dont know how quick this would be compared to a mk3 16v as the cars are quite heavy so would there be similarities in performance. if i was to use a normal redtop it would be running twin 45's, be port n polished, lightenned and balanced flywheel, decatted 4 branch manifold so it would be round the 180bhp
but if i was to use a vr6 then htis would be ported and polished, decatted, superchipped, and possibly cammed but then it would drink fuel like crazzzy where do i go guys what would other go for?
i dont mind a challenge so modding and welding etc is not a problem.
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If your swappin the engines why not fit somethin the mk3 didnt have like a g60, 20v turbo or r32.
Other wise just keep the bits you can off yours and sell it buy a vr6 and mod that so much cheaper in the long run.
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20vt too expensive same goes for the r32 engine but the r32 would be my dream engine to put in it.
i think a g60 would be underpowered in such a heavy car although i have allways wanted one of these in a mk2.
I cant be bothered in keeping all the bit on mine and putting them on another car, some of the standard bits off mine have been sold or gone in the bin so im buggered that way. anyhows i like the colour and condition of my current golf and i just want a project but the end result i want to be able to use more or less everyday so i dont want anything stupid which would be a weekend toy and in the week i would be repairing it.
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i think a g60 would be underpowered in such a heavy car although i have allways wanted one of these in a mk2.
Was perfectly fine in my corrado cant see the mk3 being any different.
200bhp is more than you would get from a 2l 16v on twin carbs, which is easily achieved on a g60 engine with few mods.
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what sort of mods would achieve 200bhp from a g60 and do the engines differ from a corrado g60 and a golf g60?
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1k would get you a full g60 lump charger and loom intercooler and g/box, there is a slight diference between the corrado a golf engines in the charger but pretty much the same.
To get 200bhp its just a chip smaller pulley and a s4 charger rebuild but bearing in mind most of this work will of already been done.
Or just keep your eyes open for a accident damaged rado g60 seen them go for 1200-1500 take what you want flog rest of bits, that way you have everythin for a full conversion.
Keep an eye on www.the-corrado.net
Hope that helps :smiley:
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you'll want a golf g60 intercooler too as the corrado one is tiny weeny lol.
a toothed belt kit is worthwhile too. they're about £200.
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cheers guys my paty is due at the end of the month so im watching a few items on ebay etc so if the price is right i will get either a g60 or a 1.8 20vt depending on what price the 20vt goes for im more in favour of this conversion a it can push more BHP but it does get a tad exspensive. cheers for all your info.
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if you're getting a 20vT make sure you get the right engine for the power you want. don't get a 150 lump if you want 300bhp else you'll end up changing everything on it. they're only good for 200bhp in standard form. 180's are good for 215bhp and 225's are good for 280bhp reliabley.
if you're going for mega power and will be changing the pistons and turbo then the AGU is the best due to larger valves which give an advantage over 300bhp.
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thanks for that the cupra i had was the 150bhp and i had it revo'd and i was well impressed with performace so i would hate to see the performance from the leon cupra with revo :sick:
i saw a golf at gti inters with a 225 s3 lump with a leon cupra 6 speed box i bet that goes well. but ideally i wouldnt mind the 150bhp engine and then change the turbo to a k03s, revo it with a forge front intercooler that would be around 215bhp.
the engine im looking at is an agu but is that the 180 or the 150?