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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Hypermonkey on 16 June 2006, 19:36
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Hello there to you all :smiley:
I'm in the process of getting a Mk 3 and was all set to get an 8v as overall running costs appear to be less that the 16v. Economy does have a high priority in my search as I've had modded Scoobies and Fiat Coope 20v turbos before and can't justify 200-250 miles from a tank anymore, but would like the odd turn of speed when required.
I've tested a few 8v's and found them fine to drive, but not as much oomph as my old mk2 8v, and was a little dissapointed as one of them wasn't as nippy as my 1.6 new Beetle :shocked:...but then they are only 3bhp more!!
So...I would totally be gratefull for any input from owners of both varients to put down your good points and bad regarding living with the cars, economy, drivability and any mods that are good. I've read the buyers guide which was great...I'll be checking ABS lights and sills :wink:...but this would be no end of help to me.
Cheers,
Simon.
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we may have a 16v mk3 for sale soon. it's a M plate with 94k on the clock in white. completely standard. goes really well :)
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The 16v isn't probably much less economical than the 8v... rather than listen to the 8v v 16v debate is there a 16v near you that you could get a ride in?
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I'm checking both out over the next few days. I know the 16v will have a better turn of speed and has upgraded shocks/suspension to the 8v, but it's the economy side of it.
I did a 20 mile test run in an 8v and reset the computer to give me the mph for that time...it read 38.4 travelling at 70mph (+ or - 10mph) so that was quite good, but the performance left me a little :sad:
I've seen a mint 8v lowered, nice wheels, performance 'zorst, and only 2 owners with 54k on the clock that I love...but it's 10 years old and hasn't had the cam belt done...aren't they supposed to be done every 60k or 5 years?? if so this is slightly overdue :laugh:
I've also seen a chipped 16v that again has all the boxes ticked...both are the same money and age...thoughts please on these two???
Cheers,
Simon.
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I would go for a 16v, 8v isn't really fast enough for me :embarassed:
Cambelts should be done every 40-50k or 5 years. Its not too expensive or too difficult to do on either engine.
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on a run to gatwick and back (circa 200 miles) I got 35 mpg from my 16v. That included stationary traffic on the M25 and normal motorway speed of between 80 but under 90. 4 up with luggage, windows open etc. not too bad I thought for a 2 litre!
My money would go on the 16v, but I think I could probably "make do" with an 8v fine...
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I'm swaying towards the 16v for the performance :evil:
The one I'm looking at has been chipped...anything to lok out for there?? Brand names etc. I had the coop chipped and it was great...actually better fuel economy when you drove without too much happy foot action :laugh:..and the car ran smoother...well as smooth as a Fiat can do :grin:
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I did a 20 mile test run in an 8v and reset the computer to give me the mph for that time...it read 38.4 travelling at 70mph (+ or - 10mph) so that was quite good, but the performance left me a little :sad:
you did well to get that!!! my 8v runs at about 29 mpg lol must be my heavy right foot. the most ive managed get out of it was 36mpg and i was driving like a little old lady coz i had hardly any petrol
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Mate ya gotta go for the 16V - No contest!
Get as late a one as you can afford and look for options like air-con. ABS should be standard on P plates and above, not sure about earlier ones.
I have not reset my MFA since buying the car nearly 3 and a half years ago and my fuel consumption has been 31 mpg average. It does vary a bit now and then but usually I thrash the car, cruise at 90 on motorways and quite often hit the rev limiter!!!!
So you would be daft to get anything other than a 16V.
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ive had 2 8vs and now have a 16v and to be honest i would go for the 16v everytime they are much better in performance more so top end but dont underestamate the 8v as they are very capable, i dont get anymore than 30mpg driveing steady and 37 on a long run ,but if you want good mpg go for the 8v as my last 1 would do 35mpg all day around town and on a trip to cornwall i had 47 mpg just see if you can drive both and then deside.
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Thanks for the input...I am looking at a 16v tomorrow and an 8v later in the week :smiley:
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Thanks for the input...I am looking at a 16v tomorrow and an 8v later in the week :smiley:
get some pictures up when it arrives.
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would be nice to hear a unbiased opinion after you've tried both cars. :)
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Well I've tested them both and both have good qualities about them :smiley:
Both cars where the same age and had the same cabin specs, both in great condition...shows how with a little care they stand the test of time (both p reg). The 8v was such a smooth engine, at home on the B-roads as well as through town. It had a nice delivery of power and would definately suffice as my next car :smiley:....BUT...I'm after something that can give me more of a grin factor in the performance department...so this is where the 16v was the winner.
I drive a 1.6sr New Beetle where the gears are set so that you must use them to get a grin, so this fact helped me with the 16v. I've heard a lot about the 8v being better on low down torque, but really couldn't see this as such a factor. On the B-roads the 16v did have me grinning more. Both cars had upgraded suspension, Milltec 'zorsts and performance filters. On a motrway at 70mph the 8v was reading 41.8mpg and the 16v 38.5, so the difference here wasn't too bad....around town the 8v read 34.7kpg and the 16v 32.4...so again not too much difference.
I'm going to see an AMD fettled car tonight...16v, and will see how this does as is supposed to offer better mpg as long as the happy foot doesn't go too wild.
So it looks like a 16v for me...but the 8v is also a lovely car :wink:
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You know it makes sense!
Welcome to the 16V fold mate! :laugh:
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hehe indeed.. welcome to the valver side :)
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I love mine I'd only give it up for a minty mk1
16v all the way
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Drove the AMD one tonight...absolute fun...and got 34.3 around town and 41.6mpg on the Motorway doing 70(+or-10 :wink:).
The car is 2 owners and has done only 3-4k a year as a second car, and is owned by a chap who works for his dad in a repair/garage...so it has wanted for nothing.
A question though....it is a n reg 16v... and has black paintwork with a slight silver fleck in it..is this a correct VW colour?? Just asking as the paint is fantastic..I have checked for accident damage as it's so good, but can see none, or detect any filler with my magnets...he did look confused when I was running them over the paint...they are in velvet pouches as not to scratch :grin:
The car is great and agreed a price of 3k...has Jamex 35mm lowered shox..17"OZ Polaris wheels...Milltec 'zorst...AMD 170bhp/150ftlbs chip with proven dyno sheet...VAG front+rear spoilers and side skirts...total closure and interior is mint except for a f*g burn in the seat in the rear and a slight but repairable nick in the drivers seat...full history..all old MOTs including new one today...and paint is immaculate. All the electrics work..sunroof but no A/C...and the ABS light functions properly.The stearing did appear to be heavy, but I drive a New Beetle on standard suspension so this might be normal?
Bad bits...slight crack on front spoiler... 2-3 inches of surface rust on passengers sill(this is not deep and can easily be rubbed down and treated...slight mark on door rubbing strip..One OZ kerbed 1/4 of whole wheel...that's it!
Opinions welcome as I think this is a good deal but would like your input :smiley:
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if that's the spec you like, or something you'd like to do to a standard car then do it! Sounds like a nice car, and good to be catching the sills early too ;)
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This is the spec of the car Dom...I was looking for one either original in this condition, or modded using good parts...and this one has them...although haven't had a car with Jamex suspension so was wanting to know if the steering would be stiffer due to the lowering and wheels :wink:
It is a lovely car though :grin:
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wider tyres would make slightly stiffer steering, not sure if the suspension would count? suppose heavier wheels would make a difference too?
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Listen. I,ll have you a race, and you will lose, cos the 8v that i,ve manage to be lucky enuf to land is fast as 10 men. Nuff said. 8v all the way!!!!! :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Listen. I,ll have you a race, and you will lose, cos the 8v that i,ve manage to be lucky enuf to land is fast as 10 men. Nuff said. 8v all the way!!!!! :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Blud you aint gonna do nuttin wid dat 8v, u is gonna hav 2 rough it rite out 2 get near me or mi bredrin..u git mi :grin:
I just love care in the community has offered young people like Stommo, you should feel proud :laugh:
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A question though....it is a n reg 16v... and has black paintwork with a slight silver fleck in it..is this a correct VW colour?? Just asking as the paint is fantastic..I have checked for accident damage as it's so good, but can see none, or detect any filler with my magnets...he did look confused when I was running them over the paint...they are in velvet pouches as not to scratch :grin:
same colour as my car mate.. see the sig... its "black magic"..
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Heavy steering - get the geometry checked, camber or toe made need adjusting due to the lowering.
Most people forget these very important adjustments!
Also check the drive belt tension.