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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: bowker on 01 June 2006, 14:25
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hi all should i stick with rubber hoses or change to braided one front and rear.
the rears ones failed the mot.
mark 2 8v gti. thanks :undecided:
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braided.
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hi all should i stick with rubber hoses or change to braided one front and rear.
the rears ones failed the mot.
mark 2 8v gti. thanks :undecided:
I've never seen the point of braided brake hoses on a road car. Go OEM and save your money for something more worthwhile.
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Agree with above :smiley:
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humm, does depend on how you use the brakes, and how much power is running through them.
Personally if you have the money to spare on braided cables i would get them, as they do reassure you when braking hard for emergencies.
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I switched to braided, and i helped pedel feel alot.
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I switched to braided hoses and i cant beleive the difference in pedal fell and overall braking performance
If you have the spare cash do it!!
If your Hoses have split or a busted just replace them all!!!
But be warned it aint easy due to the fact your old hoses will be on good an tight!!
and access will be an issue!!
I did mine on a ramp with my mechanic friend and it still took 3-4 hours
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:wink:
Braided is the way to go, looks good, performs good and lasts longer than the rubber! Do them all, you can get all 6 done by a Hydraulic hose place (like PIRTEK) for about a tenner each. :grin:
The jobs not a bad one if you got the right size spanners, they will be tight but a bit of WD pre work does help, gives you a chance to put new fluid in too, that makes a difference, don't cut the corners to cut cost, these things bring your pride and joy to a stop when you need it!!! :laugh:
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theres a hyrraulic hose place just up the road from me, have often wondered if they would be able to a make some braided lines for me!!
I assume they would need the originals to copy off though, which would mean putting my car out of action again!
don't suppose anyone ahs got some old ones knocking about :wink:
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Have any of the people who think that braided hoses improve feel, put them on in place of brand new OEM hoses, or tired, old OEM hoses? If the latter, it's not a fair comparison.
There's also no telling what bleeding the brakes does for feel, which is an activity that is always performed when changing hoses. (I hope. :) )
It's like the situation with exhausts. People replace a battered OEM exhaust with a loud aftermarket one, and assume that the improvement is nothing to do with the fact that the old parts were battered.
As for reassurance, are there any recorded examples of accidents or near misses that would have been avoided with braided hoses? If not, I'm as reassured as I can be by VW OEM quality.
Just my opinion. :)
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I agree, comparing old OEM to new braided is totally unfair, In the end ,as with most things, its comes down to cost / budget.
One thing i was told was 'ALWAYS BUY THE BEST YOU CAN AFFORD' that way there can no what if's or buts.
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As for reassurance, are there any recorded examples of accidents or near misses that would have been avoided with braided hoses? If not, I'm as reassured as I can be by VW OEM quality.
Like all the cars in motorsport that use them to brake, harder, faster, and with less effort... :huh: :huh:
Admittedly not a frequent occurance on public roads, but a reassurance non the less. Rubber brake hoses flex overtime and bubble, thats a fact, hence them needing replacing. Braided hoses cut down on this i am not saying stop it because i am sure that they can expand slightly, but they perform the function much better than rubber hoses ever will.
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thanks guys will go for braided ones. :cool:
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I have to agree with antgel totally on this one.
New cars do not have a spongey brake pedal, are they fitted with braided hoses? no.
Infact new cars have bloody good brakes!
Its a myth that alot of you have fallen for, they make very little difference if any at all over standard new OEM hoses.
They only time the difference will be noticeable is if the car is used for racing.
Save your money.
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with loads of gadgetry, ABS, EBC, etc etc etc.
These are new cars, not cars that we own, and every little helps.
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with loads of gadgetry, ABS, EBC, etc etc etc.
These are new cars, not cars that we own, and every little helps.
ABS has been around for more than ten years!
The reason newer cars brake better is usually because of the huge front discs now fitted to most modern cars.
What i was trying to point out is 'pedal feel' on newer cars is good, nothing to do with the systems you mentioned, the pedal feel is good because the rubber hoses are new and the brake fluid is also in good condition and free of air bubbles.
What i always tell people that complain about poor brake pedal 'feel' or poor performance, is to service the existing system on the car.
Not being funny, but you would be very surprised with the results!! :grin: