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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: lisa30 on 16 May 2006, 16:02
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Hi just wondered when the first one is due is it around the 60k mark? :rolleyes:
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60K is on the money. I'd also get the water pump changed too as they can be prone to failure. only a few extra quid but provides extra peace of mind :smiley:
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& also the tensioners/pulleys while they're at it, too! :wink:
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my oil burner got done at 70K !! advised to do tensioners as standard as the old ones are never truely "right" afterwards, so i was told :undecided: but they dont cost all that much :huh:
i didnt get my water pump done, wish i had though! just for the peace of mind as Rhyso said :smiley:
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i kept an eye on mine from 60k onwards. it looked fairly new so had probably already been changed. had the whole lot replaced, all sets of pulleys/idlers and the waterpump when i had a new aircon compressor at 85k.
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VW say 60k on a diesel and 80k on a petrol
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VW say 60k on a diesel and 80k on a petrol
Mine has just hit the 60k mark is a petrol but i think i may book it in anyway bette to be safe than sorry hey!!
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I take it its not the car in your sig as thats a Mk3 :wink:
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thats was my previous car i havnt change it yet im lazy :shocked: :laugh:
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Furry muff as they say :rolleyes:
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Furry muff as they say :rolleyes:
oo er how did you no LOL :grin:
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Furry muff as they say :rolleyes:
oo er how did you no LOL :grin:
Got a deaf friend, so I can 'lip' read :wink:
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Lets just drag it back from the saucy comments for a minute.
If vw say to change it at 120k and you get it serviced regularly and then it goes surely vw should pay to sort it out. Why keep advising you not to change it till 120k when every thread you read on forums and all the independent experts like Jabbasport recommend changing it before then.
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They don't say to get it changed at 120k, they recommend this as the latest you get it done. It does say in the service book that you shoul have it checked every 10k from 60k I believe
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Right,
I checked last week. For drivers who use their right foot.
1st change on cambelt for the 180 turbo is any time on 40K, Same advice also for the AUM 150 unit, and certainly before 50K. Next change before 60K. By the time you get to 100k you must have had three new cambelts, or going for the third straight away.
If you drive routinely, then a 10% longer interval on the 1st change, next change though, before 100k. Don't take totally unecessary risks with your turbo unit. If the belt splits or comes off - your looking at a rebuild from the block up, and it may never run quite so sweetly.
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Right,
I checked last week. For drivers who use their right foot.
1st change on cambelt for the 180 turbo is any time on 40K, Same advice also for the AUM 150 unit, and certainly before 50K. Next change before 60K. By the time you get to 100k you must have had three new cambelts, or going for the third straight away.
If you drive routinely, then a 10% longer interval on the 1st change, next change though, before 100k. Don't take totally unecessary risks with your turbo unit. If the belt splits or comes off - your looking at a rebuild from the block up, and it may never run quite so sweetly.
It does say 120k in the service book though :undecided:
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Are you sure ? 120k before doing the cambelt - No Way  :huh:
I will check that book again, last time I looked at it, it was generally useless for the turbo cars, the AUM and AUQ engines. That book is a generic book for all cars, designed to be understood by people who don't probably know where to the put oil in. I found it pretty damn useless on technical issues, but fine on using the car.
I spoke to people who have been in the VW trade since the birth of the Golf. They say that the turbos get a real hammering in the Ist 40k miles, (New Owners bought the MKIV turbo for a power reason) that is why the 2nd change interval is 60k miles on from the Ist, namely by 100k. Reason, they have studdied warranty issues and find that the car will have changed ownership by 65k and the 2nd owners are quite NOT quite so heavy on the throttle.
Call your Dealer, ask for the workshop manager, I'd be interested to hear what he says. :grin:
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Amazingly mine went at 32k a month or so after I got the car (1.6 2001)
Had a warranty with the car when i got it and they was an abosl*te thingy to deal with.
cost £240 to have fixed.
The garage that fixed it said they rarely go at this mileage. No idea what makes them go?
But all is well with the car now everything working as it should.
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getting mine done tomorow its only on 58000
peace of mind though :smiley:
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Soulman - On the 1600 unit that is unusual. Maybe the previous owner just whipped the throttle the whole time from new. You do get some bloody idiots in nice Golfs.
Martyn - For the 20 valve turbo, that is essential at 58K you weren't the Ist owner, Right ! Wise decision - get it done, then drive with confidence.
Driving Golfs is not a cheap business, if ya want cheap motoring drive a Citroen C2 1.4 diesel, then throw away at 7 years.
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Just checked my service book and the results are as follows:
60,000 and then every 10,000 - the camshaft belt and tensioner are checked - 4 cyl petrol
60,000 the cambelt and tensioner are replaced - tdi only (exept sharan)
80,000 - the cambelt is replaced - only transporter diesel
100,000 - the cambelt is replaced - 4 cyl diesel engines only
120,000 - the cambelt is changed - 4 cyl, 5 valve petrol engines only
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You've read the Service schedule - fair enough. You should remind folks here that the figures you gave were for kilometers - NOT miles.
Lisa - said mileage ok - 100 kilometers = 62 miles therefore use 5/8 or multiply by 0.62 to give approx mileage.
Sharan diesel cambelt replaced at 60,000 km or before 40k miles. Petrol units are Checked (60,000 kilometers = 37,200 Miles)
I asked the technicians for their opinion on the turbo engines. If you check the wear of the cambelt at 40,000 or 60,000 miles, then the work and labour involved to check it, means that you replace it, it is more economical to replace once there and on the job, than to keep checking.
As I said before, if you acquire a turbo at 4 or 5 years a Golf mkIV , and you don't know the previous owner's driving style, why take the risk.
You said / and the book is miss translated here.
120,000 - the cambelt is changed - 4 cyl, 5 valve petrol engines only
That means at 75,000 miles. Also the german translation is very poor. It may have said in German 4 cyl by 5 valves per cylinder units (ie the 20 valve turbo). I don't know ?
I talked to actual VW workshop people and the technician who runs his own business doing: Porsche's, BMW's, Audi's, and TVR's.
If you don't have full VW service history for every singe thing done, then you can't fall back on what is written in the Service Manual, when something goes wrong, and you are out of Warranty !
I'd rather recommend with caution - That is all.
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You've read the Service schedule - fair enough. You should remind folks here that the figures you gave were for kilometers - NOT miles.
That is in miles mate(roughly translated) :undecided:
But whatever, just get your cambelt done before it snaps, or else like duncan says youi will be in a world of pain :cry: and skint. Mine is on warranty so I'm ok :grin:
Oh yeah and the 120000miles is the maximum, if it has'nt already been done
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Here we go, VW UK service book.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/gaz8512/P1000005.jpg)
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had a bit of a set back with mine smith knight fay who are doing the work got the wrong belt (so they say) and it wont be ready till tomorow good job g/f is of so im gonna have to use her mk5
lucky i have booked the afternoon off work
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ive been advised that its just been changed from mileage to age/mileage
ie 4yrs or 60,000miles.
my anni has only done 17k now but its 4yrs old so im having a full service and cambelt for piece of mind. cudnt bear it to go snap now it out of warranty period
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had my cambelt changed when i bought the mk4 golf gti in may 2003, the tw@ts never checked changed the tensioner/rollers etc... hence my engine bang up in may 2004... very costly... unless you have witnessed the bad bits removed be it by vw or who ever just make sure theyve been done... other wise its bloody costly!!
from experience....
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