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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: EdMass on 08 February 2006, 17:14
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I have read in Car (Feb edition) that the current 2.0FSI engine will be increased to produce 237bhp. The same engine & BHP will be used in the forth coming Seat Leon Cupra.
The article suggests this will be available for the GTI from April this year.
Has anyone else heard about this or know anymore details?
I collect my VW GTI DSG in March & will be gutted if they offer an alternative with more power!
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seems a bit strange if they do because the R32 is not much more than that
ask the dealership they should know
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Does anyone have any info on this????
I am picking my new car up tomorrow and will not be a happy bunny if it is very soon out of date. I achieved a good discount of 6% on a UK dealer car and also another dealer offered me a similar discount on cars they had in stock......so maybe they wanted these cars away as soon as possible. All of a sudden maybe my big discount could be making sense.
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I think they might be a bit aprehensive about the VXR astra, thinking people will opt for more power rather than quality, so now if that is going to happen, its the perfect package, wonder if it torque steers as bad as the astra?
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will we be able to get it remap??? :sad:
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will we be able to get it remap??? :sad:
the current GTI engine or the proposed 237bhp one?
out of interest have tuning companies like REVO and AMD got the facilites to re-map the current 2.0 FSI Turbo engine does anyone know!?
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the current one, yes i think their are some places doing it!!!!!!!
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Bloke in my village has a GTI with "Morego 250" on the side.
In these current slippery conditions, I only just manage to keep my standard GTI on the road!!
Another 37/50hp seems pointless to me.
Above 200 you really need RWD or AWD.
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theres a review of the Morego 250 Golf in this month's EVO.
Gets a very good write up too :nerd: :smiley:
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never heard of it before, i wil make sure i check out evo!
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Is the car fitted with a M5/M6-style power switch?
Dry road = 237/250
Wet road = 200
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Does anyone have any info on this????
I am picking my new car up tomorrow and will not be a happy bunny if it is very soon out of date. I achieved a good discount of 6% on a UK dealer car and also another dealer offered me a similar discount on cars they had in stock......so maybe they wanted these cars away as soon as possible. All of a sudden maybe my big discount could be making sense.
Where did you manage to negotiate 6% discount from a main dealer, I recently (about a month ago) contacted all my local dealers in the Dorset/Hampshire area and not one of them would even consider a discount. When I was in one of the dealers I was prepared to place an order, if they would give me metallic paint, they wouldn't so I walked out!
Regarding the power increase, from a marketing point of view it seems very, very unlikely, although I certainly think the GTI could do with the power hike. It would then make it the undisputed hot hatch, but at the same time it would certainly ‘upset’ all the current owners!
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AMD or QST will add you another 40 +bhp for about £700, i don't think you need it though as most GTIs (well mine) does 0 - 60 in 6.1 seconds, there is no way it will go faster with more power as the wheels will be spinning!
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through out the years VW have never made the fastest hot hatch, but simply the best all round, they prob made it to have 200 bhp on purpose when they knew companies like ford and vauxhall will make more powerful cars, well lets face it they have to, coz otherwise people wouldnt buy them!
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Agreed with Neaty on this one.
I love the build and robustness of the Golf (VW generally). The MKV took the awards in 2004/2005 for best all round hatch.
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exactly its not just about straightline power, now i am sure that the ford and vauxhall are handly through the bends as most of them through the years have been but, u get the feeling that the 222bhp ford and the 237 bhp vauxhall's engine is the party piece where as with the golf its just the tip fo the ice berg!
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EVO review is on the MOREGO website...........................
www.morego.co.uk/cms_images_image_bin/2_1_large.jpg
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Gents, IMHO I would disagree with anyone who says that anything over 200 bhp is too much for FWD.
I`ve had my GTI re-mapped to 245, and yes, whilst it will spin the wheels given some provocation from a standing - start, for me anyway, it`s more about the extra that is felt when rolling, and believe me, the increase in torque is absolutely fantastic !
The thing just pulls everywhere now, needing even less gear-changes than before. It really is THAT good. :laugh:
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Any more news on this, cus just about to order myslef a GTI and dont want to be ordering the old model.
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I have spoken to my dealer & they have confirmed they have heard rumours, but they are normally the last too know!
I cannot imagine "Car magazine" publishing information & this not becoming reality. Also the Mk4 GTI started life with the 115BHP & this increased to other options for the 150BHP & 180BHP, so don't be surprised if the 237BHP becomes available, perhaps for the Anniversary.
I am personally not interested in increasing the BHP of the standard GTI with chips etc. However, if VW did introduce a more powerful GTI as standard, I would be very interested. Albeit that I only took delivery of my GTI on Wednesday!
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I take delivery of a new GTI on Saturday. I don't think I'll be modifying it but I have spoken to various tuners - must one so far in terms of performance and reliability (i.e. renowned company with significant testing etc.) seems to be Revo who have a number of suppliers in the UK...looking at a potentially scary 260bhp but more importantly torque is up to 300LBFT...huge increase...very tempting as I would think as long as you are careful at low speed, the extra torque and power would make overtaking etc much beter (not that its bad anyway) :cool:
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Folks,
I picked up my GTi over the weekend so still running it in and can't comment on the performance as yet.
One thing I can contribute is that I have previously had a Focus RS and modified it with a Bluefin Superchip which resulted in similar power increases to those mentioned in this thread. To be honest it wasn't a great move. The RS (which didn't have ESP or traction control) ended up having too much power for the front wheel drive - it just spun the front wheels way too easily in anything other than dry roads.
I'd be really interested to hear how a car with traction control gets on with modifications.
Chris
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driving a FWD car with over 200bhp is easy. of course it'll light up the tyres in the lower gears especially in the wet.
i'll be running 300bhp in mine and still staying FWD. I'll be working towards a LSD soon.
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my 2p.
I bought (swapped) my car privately, and whilst I wouldnt normaly tune a car - it already had the Awesome GTI APR remap.
I have to say, having driven both, I think it is well worth the 600 or so it cost (not me!). I'm told it is around 240hp, but the torque is up too.
Contrary to what I was expecting, the car has better pick up lower down, and really flies. The icing on the cake is the fuel economy is slightly better - my car is averaging just over 29mpg since I got it - and easily into the mid 30's on a motorway run...
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will we be able to get it remap??? :sad:
the current GTI engine or the proposed 237bhp one?
out of interest have tuning companies like REVO and AMD got the facilites to re-map the current 2.0 FSI Turbo engine does anyone know!?
www.morego.co.uk (GTI Engineering :cool:)