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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: GT_Andy on 28 December 2005, 21:47

Title: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: GT_Andy on 28 December 2005, 21:47
Evenin' guys. I'm new here and am seriously considering leaving my trusty Nissan and swapping her for a mk2 GTi 16v earlier feb/march time.

As i'll be in absolutely no rush to buy one, i'm more than happy to hold out for the right motor. So far, all i've concluded is that it must be a mint, low-miler, 3dr, completely standard and on either a J or K plate. Before you say it, i know this is probably extremely rare, but like i say... i'm in no rush, and have made the mistake in the past of impulse buying and getting something which i wasn't completely happy with. My plan is to find myself a very rare car, which i will keep standard and in tip top shape.

I've been trawling the net (most of the day!!), but still need to know a few things...

I only buy 'top-spec' cars with ALL the extras etc., and would like to know which bits i should expect to find?? ie. clear rear lights, GTi carpets, electric windows, rainbow interior etc.

Was leather offered on any of the mk2 GTi range??

Where do the electric Recaro seats come from??

What are the rarest colours, and were any built in limited numbers??

I apologise is these questions have been asked before, but i couldn't find anything appropriate using the 'search' facility.

Many thanks in advance. Andy. :smiley:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: bulk66 on 28 December 2005, 22:01
Hello mate have you seen the fire and ice models they are rare but not to every ones taste as they were a bit in your face have a look on the search thing and make up your own mind. Finding a well looked after golf is not as hard as you would think just as long as you have the cash. I payed £1400 for my motor its a daily driver in good condition not mint but very good and its got a good spec and service history. I went to look at 2 others that were both £1200 and they were aptsolute nails.......... :smiley:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: jv on 28 December 2005, 22:08
hey andy, welcome to the forum...

late mk2 16v that you mention are often refered to as 'run-out' models. these all have smoked rear lights, pas, elec windows, central locking, etc and generally the rainbow interior.

leather was always there as a very expensive option

elec recaro's mainly come from imported lhd g60's but were also an option at various times

rare colours? depends what you mean by rare. oak green is the 'classic' colour and affects values a lot. silver is a surprisingly 'rare' mk2 colour. depends how geek you want to get - porsche nile green is my idea of rare  :smiley:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: GT_Andy on 28 December 2005, 22:12
hey andy, welcome to the forum...

late mk2 16v that you mention are often refered to as 'run-out' models. these all have smoked rear lights, pas, elec windows, central locking, etc and generally the rainbow interior.

leather was always there as a very expensive option

elec recaro's mainly come from imported lhd g60's but were also an option at various times

rare colours? depends what you mean by rare. oak green is the 'classic' colour and affects values a lot. silver is a surprisingly 'rare' mk2 colour. depends how geek you want to get - porsche nile green is my idea of rare  :smiley:

That's spot on mate, thanks very much. I beleive colour is everything with a car, and it sounds like you think the same!! :smiley:

In response to Bulk66's reply, i'm really trying to spend about £2K... but i know i'll end up nearer the £3K mark.
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: bulk66 on 28 December 2005, 22:21
With that kind of money mate you should have no problems....... :smiley: Check out www.volkswizard.co.uk and futureclassiccars.com always some nice dubs on these sites.......
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: GT_Andy on 28 December 2005, 22:55
Cheers for the links Bulk.

Anyone got a photo of a Porsche Nile Green GTi?? :nerd:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: rubjonny on 29 December 2005, 10:53
Royal blue & bright blue metalic are pretty rare colours (just try finding panels for one!)  Compared to oak green which is relativly comon in comparison.

You'll be hard pressed to find a standard 'top spec' MK2 in the UK, we are mostly too tight to order all the extras :grin:  Most of the bits can be found on ebay/in the classifieds and added yourself though, your best bet is to get one with good bodywork and work from there :)

A full specced MK2 would include these standard extras:
Top tint rear lights (standard on most 16v models and run out 8vs)
Roof aerial (Bee sting, again standard on most 16v models and run out 8vs)
Central locking
Green tint glass (or even chromlux if buying a Golf limited or Rallye/G60)
Power Steering (the 16v had a slightly more 'sporty' rack apparently)
Electric windows
Electric heated mirrors
Fischer 6 Cd holder for the std centre console
Leather steering wheel
Headlight washers (v. rare)
Votex centre console (v. v. rare)
Electric heated Recaros (v. v. v. rare)
Air conditioning (v. v. v. v. rare)
Electric adjust headlight range (v. v. v. v. v. rare)

Have I forgotten anything? ;)

You can also get pop out rear quarters for the 3 door models as an aftermarket accessory, but be prepared to spend a fortune on a set, the green tint ones are especially hard to find!
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: GT_Andy on 29 December 2005, 12:08
Royal blue & bright blue metalic are pretty rare colours (just try finding panels for one!)  Compared to oak green which is relativly comon in comparison.

You'll be hard pressed to find a standard 'top spec' MK2 in the UK, we are mostly too tight to order all the extras :grin:  Most of the bits can be found on ebay/in the classifieds and added yourself though, your best bet is to get one with good bodywork and work from there :)

A full specced MK2 would include these standard extras:
Top tint rear lights (standard on most 16v models and run out 8vs)
Roof aerial (Bee sting, again standard on most 16v models and run out 8vs)
Central locking
Green tint glass (or even chromlux if buying a Golf limited or Rallye/G60)
Power Steering (the 16v had a slightly more 'sporty' rack apparently)
Electric windows
Electric heated mirrors
Fischer 6 Cd holder for the std centre console
Leather steering wheel
Headlight washers (v. rare)
Votex centre console (v. v. rare)
Electric heated Recaros (v. v. v. rare)
Air conditioning (v. v. v. v. rare)
Electric adjust headlight range (v. v. v. v. v. rare)

Have I forgotten anything? ;)

You can also get pop out rear quarters for the 3 door models as an aftermarket accessory, but be prepared to spend a fortune on a set, the green tint ones are especially hard to find!

What a brilliant reply!! Nice one Jonny... i need to know all of this so when i look for my GTi, to make sure i get the a true and proper GTi.
Also found out that Volkswizard is one 14 miles away from my house, so i'll be going over there tomorrow for a little browse and chat. :smiley:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: rubjonny on 29 December 2005, 12:13
Its GTI, no lower case I on a VW :grin: :wink:

I find some motors from there can be overpriced, but he does have some proper minters for sale :)
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: GT_Andy on 29 December 2005, 15:54
LOL, okay GTI it is then!!

I know what you mean about overpriced too... i think i'll probably just wait for one to appear as a private sale, and hopefully grab a bargain. :wink:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: GT_Andy on 30 December 2005, 13:25
Just one more question (i think!!)... when would you expect to find the small and big bumper models?? Were they fitted on particular years or was it just an option on all models?? :smiley:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: rubjonny on 30 December 2005, 13:59
Ok the GTI had small bumpers up to 89, but it isn't unusual to see early 90 reged models with small bumpers as some wern't registered until late.  The big bumpers were then fitted to GTIs from 90 'G' onwards :)

The lower spec models all got small bumpers regardless of the year, except the GL which had big bumpers as the GTI models, but with chunky side trim and no arches.
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: Judderi on 30 December 2005, 15:44
If you want rare as rocking horse do do then get looking for a MkII Limited! Its a 16v motor with a supercharger bolted on.

Or even a mkII golf ranger! lol  :grin: Which is a 4x4 land rover styled mk2.

But for the money you have to spend why not look for a rally?
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: GT_Andy on 30 December 2005, 16:05
If you want rare as rocking horse do do then get looking for a MkII Limited! Its a 16v motor with a supercharger bolted on.

Or even a mkII golf ranger! lol  :grin: Which is a 4x4 land rover styled mk2.

But for the money you have to spend why not look for a rally?

I've love to consider the G60 or even a mk3 VR6 highline... but the insurance would kill me. I'm only 23 and will have 3yrs no claims when i come to buy. :sad:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: bulk66 on 30 December 2005, 16:54
Hey Andy have you had a quote mate on a vr6 as my brother had one when he was 23 and it was under a grand with Adrian Flux. And has any one got pictures of the limited or the ranger never knew they existed must be rare... :smiley:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: ...joe on 30 December 2005, 17:29
a g60 limited looks like the most standard golf you can imagine apart from it having a blue trim round the grill and a blue badge on the grill. they were all 5 door and only 71 were made, designed to be a proper street sleeper. there is a register of who owns them somewhere on line so google "g60 limited" and like ben said they were supercharged 16v, putting out 210 bhp from the factory whcih is pretty feckin impressive for 15 years ago!
the golf "country" (not ranger) is ugly as sin but at the same time is pretty cool. its like a dodgy mish mash of golf and land rover.

edit:

golf country: http://www.cars-galore.de/images/volkswagen/20050316-golf-country.jpg

g60 limited: http://www.golf-g60-limited.freeservers.com/09130030.jpg
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: ...joe on 30 December 2005, 17:36
actually this is a good bit of info:

http://www.faltdach.net/vwg60limited.htm

for the g60 and

 http://www.faltdach.net/vwgolfcountry.htm

for the country, good site in general!!
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: GT_Andy on 30 December 2005, 19:07
actually this is a good bit of info:

http://www.faltdach.net/vwg60limited.htm

for the g60 and

 http://www.faltdach.net/vwgolfcountry.htm

for the country, good site in general!!


WOW... what an amazing car. I've always been a big fan of the sleeper thing, and this car really does sound perfect!! However, chances are with the initial outlay and even more pricey insurance i doubt i'd be able to afford such a beast. But i'll have a scout around anyway!!

Many thanks for the links too!! :smiley:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: GT_Andy on 30 December 2005, 19:41
Hmmm, none for sale anywhere!! Not that i'm surprised, i just wanted to get an idea of how much they sell for??
My guess is around £8K give or take a couple... but i might be completely wrong. Either way, it's out of my price range but definately a thought for the future. :smiley:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: ...joe on 30 December 2005, 20:41
a girl who used to be on here alot had one... in fact so did her husband!! imagine that 2 limiteds!! anyway she had offers well over £10k that she turned down before getting an offer she couldn't refuse. if you do somehow get one, bear in mind that parts for these are like rocking horse sh!t! i remember claire had a split coolant hose and could she find one?! it seems as they were a 'special' project they didn't realy make spare parts for them. if you do want one then your best bet is to search germany as thats where they were all initially sold and where most of them now live.
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: GT_Andy on 30 December 2005, 20:57
a girl who used to be on here alot had one... in fact so did her husband!! imagine that 2 limiteds!! anyway she had offers well over £10k that she turned down before getting an offer she couldn't refuse. if you do somehow get one, bear in mind that parts for these are like rocking horse sh!t! i remember claire had a split coolant hose and could she find one?! it seems as they were a 'special' project they didn't realy make spare parts for them. if you do want one then your best bet is to search germany as thats where they were all initially sold and where most of them now live.

DAMN... better stick to a mk2 GTI i reckon!! :cool:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: ...joe on 30 December 2005, 21:03
yeah think so. no matter how rare, over £10k is alot of skrilla for a 15 year old car.....
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: bulk66 on 30 December 2005, 22:17
I wouldn't want to drive a car like that as i would be scared of any thing breaking.  :smiley:
Title: Re: mk2 GTi model range differences
Post by: bulk66 on 30 December 2005, 22:30
The most fun i ever had in a car was in my mk2 1.6 it was green and cost £ 150 i didn't have to worry were i parked in a car park, wondering if the people carrier next to me would have a group of crazy children in it that would scratch my nice gleeming paint that i had been polishing for 2 days or if the psycho old woman with a trolley would drive into my car with a full load of shopping while i was still sat in it and not even say sorry. If anything broke i would go to the scrapers and it would cost me a fiver if something broke them were the days.lol  :grin: