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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: adw555 on 12 November 2005, 17:24
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seems to be beating the Mk5 GTI in reviews now....have to say I'm not a huge fan of it's looks..prefer my nice black GTI :wink: anyone had a drive in the Focus yet ?
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I've not seen any reviews on it but no ones ever said anything bad about the MK5 GTI so if the Focus is beating it then it must be a pretty sh1t hot motor. :cry:
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its not beaten the GTI in Evo - their reporter said that the GTI is still THE benchmark :nerd:
only thing going for the Ford (unfortunately) is the ridiculously low price of the thing :sad: if only VW could make the GTI that cheap..........
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Ford Focus ST??
Will be worth £5k in 2 years and will be a massive chav icon.... especially those electric orange ones :grin:
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Will be worth £5k in 2 years and will be a massive chav icon.... especially those electric orange ones :grin:
that much??? blimey!! :grin: :grin:
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its not beaten the GTI in Evo - their reporter said that the GTI is still THE benchmark :nerd:
only thing going for the Ford (unfortunately) is the ridiculously low price of the thing :sad: if only VW could make the GTI that cheap..........
If they sold it cheap, everyone would be driving one :wink: :wink:
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its not beaten the GTI in Evo - their reporter said that the GTI is still THE benchmark :nerd:
only thing going for the Ford (unfortunately) is the ridiculously low price of the thing :sad: if only VW could make the GTI that cheap..........
If they sold it cheap, everyone would be driving one :wink: :wink:
hmmm good point there......crikey.....no......a chav......in a GTI :cry: the horror!!! :sad:
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dunno anything about ST really.. fords are cr@p :grin:
but oppersite to Volkswagen in dartford is a massive bilboard with an advert for the new astra VXR and the slogen on it is "ASTRA VXR BEATS GOLF GTi"
it does make me laugh :laugh:
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Vauxhall VXR beats GTI...............................
to the scrapyard :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh:
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Yes some mags do have it beating the GTI - however its always just beating it cause of the cost, the gti is a much classier car and always will be i haqve an st170 prior to my gti and it was bloody crap!
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gti all the way :cool:
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Dont care what anyone says, Ford NEED to build a Focus Cosworth. Now that would be a car worth talking about. The ST may be cheaper, but it will depreciate like a stone and I cannot believe can compete with the GTI on any level. That being said, you have to hand it to Ford bringing out a car with well over 200bhp for that price.
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dunno anything about ST really.. fords are cr@p :grin:
but oppersite to Volkswagen in dartford is a massive bilboard with an advert for the new astra VXR and the slogen on it is "ASTRA VXR BEATS GOLF GTi"
it does make me laugh :laugh:
It winds me up everytime i see that bilboard!
But at the end of the day what would you rather have a VW or a vauxhall, who have always been a cheap imitation right back to the days of the mark 1 astra gte!
I like the look of the vxr's but then i feel guilty for doing so. as its a direct rival of the golf.
The focus ST looks alright i think, doesnt have the same effect like when i see a mark 5 gti tho!
I think it will be a car that they know they can get more out of, but they dnt want to because they will want the RS to be that bit more special (which i heard they are bringing out a 4wd 300 bhp cossworth focus), but dnt quote me on that!
VW seem to have a nack over the years of bringing out the new GTI only for the rivals to wait and bring out there equivalent that is faster! WHY??!!
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I remember seeing a poster advert from VW years ago with a mk2 golf and a mk2 astra (I think) sat at the traffic lights, the golf driver was sat in his car all relaxed and the astra driver was sat in his car, arms bent, hunched up with gritted teeth ready for the traffic lights grand prix, so I'll get to my point and say now what they said then, "We never claimed to make the fastest GTI, just the best" something like that but you catch my drift and I think it's still applicable today. :smiley:
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i tested all models in our range(honda,cooper sport,vauxhal)
by a mile the golf was the best all round package
build quality and ride were second to none
now i have got my car, i know i made the right move.
when i see other cars in the range drive past or at the lights, i don't say, i wish i had got one of them!!!!!!!
enough said :cool:l
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valid points!
'tis true they are they best alround package! The fact that golfs always hold their value is a sign of how good they are!
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isnt the vxr the car that vauxhall forgot to put 4wd on? got some stupid amoutn of hp but all tried to be put down on the front wheels. seem to remember clarkson making some funny comments on top gear last season about it being suicide etc and that the golf was better. enough said i think
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wel it just shows that they are desperate to beat VW and put 240 bhp through the front wheels its not all abut power as we wel know!, it was torque steer city when clarkson tested it
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thats right i remember, fine if the quarter mile strip has a sharp left hander half way up it! :grin:
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:grin: indeed! did it beat the golf round the top gear test track
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dont remember but cant imagine it did, 4wd etc has to have helped it round quicker
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just had a look on the website, they didnt bother to put most of the laps on the website!
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well thats a let down then. Every write up iv seen of the gti is a good one though and i just like how it doesnt look like one of these cars that comes already modified. It still has a little class about its sporty looks. rather than all the add on plastic trim you get on the vauxhall and the focus.
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mark 5's have a sort of refined look about them, they are a bit leary with the 18's on them but not too much, he vxr is a boit of a mentalist in comparison.
just how off the rails has this gone by the way
back to the st.......
the st wont sell because people will be waiting for the RS!
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nicely put back on track there, and i agree, most people will be waiting for the re to come out so why would u?
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mmmmm...........just thinking about how I should have got a 2001 Focus or Astra instead of my 2001 MK4 1.8T......NOT!
If you move to 2010 and take a 5 year old VXR Astra and drag race it against a 5 year old GTI I think I know the result, My GTI still goes like new even though its 4 years old, I know I wouldnt be saying that if I got an Astra....or a Focus
My bro has got a Vectra SRI but it spends more time in the garage than I do on the Jon!!!!!!!!!!!!
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^^ its a no brainer isnt it, cheap alternatives thats all they are.
Just look at how many Mark 2 golf gti's there are about on the roads, u dnt see an awful lot of escort RS mark 3's do u, coz they all packed in years ago!
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FORD - equals - F ound O n R oad D eadÂÂÂ
The Volkwagen GTi is sublime (worthy of adoration and reverence).
I have just ordered a GTi 3dr, met blk, 17",RCD500, Centre armrest, for delivery 06 March. The basic Philosophy here is: simply-add the fewest extras from the list and maybe, just maybe, we might reincarnate the hallowed Mk 2.
Now, if anybody has any better ideas, please (although I'm sure you will) post.
Happy New Year.
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You will F***ing love it man!