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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: chas.s on 20 November 2025, 07:33

Title: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: chas.s on 20 November 2025, 07:33
Hi All,
Looking to replace two of my tyres. Currently have 4s but looking at my options. The 5’s are a newer design.
Any suggestions are greatly welcome. Thank you in anticipation.
Chas :smiley:
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: Adam T7 on 20 November 2025, 07:44
Can’t comment on PS4’s as never had them but on my second set of PS5’s and no issues, wear well, quiet and grip well in the cold and wet.
If your fronts are worn but legal, swap front to rear so when you do choose, you’ve got the look of a full set?
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: flipflops on 20 November 2025, 09:22
I've run both, 4s are slightly stiffer and have slightly more grip, have run 5's for years now and really happy with them, had a set fitted at the weekend. Comfortable, loads of grip in wet and dry. Also depends if you're running 19's or 18's
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: MinchCS on 20 November 2025, 10:50
Have you considered Continental SC7s? Gone from PS4S to these on my CS and very happy.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: chas.s on 20 November 2025, 12:51
I've run both, 4s are slightly stiffer and have slightly more grip, have run 5's for years now and really happy with them, had a set fitted at the weekend. Comfortable, loads of grip in wet and dry. Also depends if you're running 19's or 18's

I'm running 19's, thank you.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: davo245 on 27 November 2025, 07:14
I've run both, 4s are slightly stiffer and have slightly more grip, have run 5's for years now and really happy with them, had a set fitted at the weekend. Comfortable, loads of grip in wet and dry. Also depends if you're running 19's or 18's

I'm running 19's, thank you.

I have run both on 19s and would buy the PS5'S again due to cost and they last longer performance is same as PS4S 's imo. And sidewalls also look better and the newer tyres.

You would not notice a difference in either both best tyres you can put on a GTI imo.

I have done over 20k on each type in all road types and weather conditions.

Get the 5s would be my choice camskill always cheaper if you know a good local fitter who will fit them.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: chas.s on 28 November 2025, 12:41
Thank you davo245 & all,
I went for PS5’s in the end. Happy with all, so far. Although haven’t done many miles since.
BlackCircle were also giving 15% discount, which was a bonus.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: Rudedog on 28 November 2025, 14:59
Yep I took advantage of that BC deal for four new PS5's - no where around me could match it.

Car always feels better with new tyres - interestingly all four were made in Italy in week 40/25 - in all of the times I've bought Michelins I've never had ones made in Italy.

Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: davo245 on 28 November 2025, 17:55
Thank you davo245 & all,
I went for PS5’s in the end. Happy with all, so far. Although haven’t done many miles since.
BlackCircle were also giving 15% discount, which was a bonus.  :smiley:

Top choice sir! You won't regret it.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: Adam T7 on 28 November 2025, 18:04
If you are quick

https://offer.michelin.co.uk/michelinclaim
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: GTIreland on 02 December 2025, 03:48
I switched from Michelin PS5 to Pirelli PZ5 and they are better in every way.

Surprised by this seeing that I wouldn't buy anything but Michelin for years.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: chas.s on 02 December 2025, 14:22
If you are quick

https://offer.michelin.co.uk/michelinclaim

Yes I did see that offer, unfortunately Black Circle is not one of the participating dealers.

I guess that's because they are already discounted? I'm sure I saw somewhere that Black Circle is owned by Michelin, may be mistaken?
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: Exonian on 02 December 2025, 15:45
I switched from Michelin PS5 to Pirelli PZ5 and they are better in every way.

Surprised by this seeing that I wouldn't buy anything but Michelin for years.


Oooh, curveball.
What swayed you that way and where do the PZ5’s score best in your opinion?
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: Adam T7 on 02 December 2025, 15:47
If you are quick

https://offer.michelin.co.uk/michelinclaim

Yes I did see that offer, unfortunately Black Circle is not one of the participating dealers.

I guess that's because they are already discounted? I'm sure I saw somewhere that Black Circle is owned by Michelin, may be mistaken?

Quick Google and you are correct.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: GTIreland on 02 December 2025, 15:53
This article did the swaying https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre-Tests/Best-Performance-Summer-Tyres-For-2025.htm

I found them quieter, more compliant and confidence inspiring in the twisties.

They honestly feel like a more advanced 4 or 4S before Michelin decided to make the 5 out of concrete to increase longevity and particle emissions.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: Exonian on 03 December 2025, 13:58
Thanks GTIreland, it’s always great to read real owners reviews and informed opinions  :smiley:
Jonathan from tyrereviews’ vids pop up on my YouTube algorithm, and seeing him use a Golf GTI often for testing lends extra relevance, but actually sitting reading the review is actually far more informative and less fast paced so thanks for posting the link too 👍🏻
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: CarbonGTD on 05 December 2025, 10:10
Really interesting to read that GTIreland.  My new 8.5 GTI has come on woeful Bridgestone rubbish which will be being swapped (all 4) as soon as we have the first sunshine in the spring.  I was all set to get PS4S (which I have had before and loved) but now you're making me really think about these new Pirellis - I found the PZEROs that were OEM on the two 7.5 GTI's I had were bang average and I would never have spent my own money on them - but these sound much more interesting. 

Darn will have a real decision to make now... 
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: GTIreland on 05 December 2025, 10:29
Personally I wouldn't have gone anywhere near PZ4s or earlier iterations of this tyre.

Like you I've only heard horror stories but the PZ5 are somewhat of a reset for Pirelli.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: Watts on 05 December 2025, 11:15
Personally I wouldn't have gone anywhere near PZ4s or earlier iterations of this tyre.

Like you I've only heard horror stories but the PZ5 are somewhat of a reset for Pirelli.

How are they doing in the cold weather? It's not too bad here in the south winter-wise so never found the PS4S's wanting making them great all year round.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: GTIreland on 05 December 2025, 11:26
As I tend to take the ferry to the continent at odd times during the year, I do switch the tyres for winter.

Because I liked the PZ5 and because of yet another Tyre Reviews comparison I went with the Pirelli SF3 which I do like a lot but maybe overkill if you're not leaving the island.

I won't keep them on for the summer but being all season, I do wonder if one could get away with them year-round as they feel great on backroads, roundabouts and the like.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4s or Pilot Sport 5?
Post by: GTIreland on 06 December 2025, 01:51
Forgot to mention that I swapped them from Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 and while the PZ5s made huge strides to catch up with Michelin's sidewall design, the SF3s are pig ugly by comparison.