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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: Beebopper on 12 December 2024, 21:01
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Hi all, does the mk7 dead pedal fit the mk8? I’m after something to replace or cover the black plastic one and match the alloy pedals. Seen a few on Amazon listed for mk7, just not sure if they fit.
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Yeah they do. No difference as far as I know. I’ve seen this one recommended elsewhere:
https://www.kopacek.com/skoda/superb-iii/superb-iii-rhd-oem-footrest-deadpedal-sportline-version-rhd
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Yeah they do. No difference as far as I know. I’ve seen this one recommended elsewhere:
https://www.kopacek.com/skoda/superb-iii/superb-iii-rhd-oem-footrest-deadpedal-sportline-version-rhd
Great thank you, that looks good. I’ve found similar on Amazon but quite a long lead time. Hoping the fit is good.
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They looks suspiciously similar to the AliExpress ones you can get for £12. Unfortunately all of the RHD dead pedals available are made for manual transmissions and are narrower than the plain one that comes with DSG equipped cars. I had one for a while but went back to the original as it was more comfortable for my big feet.
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They looks suspiciously similar to the AliExpress ones you can get for £12. Unfortunately all of the RHD dead pedals available are made for manual transmissions and are narrower than the plain one that comes with DSG equipped cars. I had one for a while but went back to the original as it was more comfortable for my big feet.
Yeah it does look similar, maybe even the same one. Word is though that the quality of the Ebay/AliExpress ones are patchy whereas this one is apparently better quality / better made. Just relaying what I'd read on another forum.
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This is something, I'm hoping Father Christmas might bring me :smiley:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387710533834?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D276806%2C277937%2C277837%2C277738%26meid%3Da42b8fd29c834924a9ee32dfc27a475a%26pid%3D101875%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D387439999353%26itm%3D387710533834%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3DSimVIDwebV3WithCPCExpansionEmbeddingSearchQueryRecallAuctionPushout&_trksid=p2332490.c101875.m1851&itmprp=cksum%3A387710533834a42b8fd29c834924a9ee32dfc27a475a%7Cenc%3AAQAJAAABIM%252BSIK5LCqs2uiCwInhHqGVzIMLIMo0iPltG%252Fc%252FV8dzqXG8bAAbTVw985HbdYTuG2wPTDx%252F8lbe8GSu4NUrsEPcDBvCLFhf2QkBmtTX5yUHKJ%252FPyspO98F9SHeadwCG6%252FvSQvKEUF3wlpXFBcl3Du%252BnMtLTlgUzcGZsh7zHei56k7eh0cCgu56dtNj8zRIgiFWtdm6qF2S1qK26d0eJf9EB6BvqAhDhZ6zs7pOOSUytOt5J5Hoc%252F0bx%252FCdrzs6nG7cgZS5YvENG2cEz5m1HmZ2LLUsjLd8dUGJRhbrDski0qJ8K1sQoxI4r7I5%252FqEAvnKx0OtTjH7ddzfNcOqQJAAngbBK5DynW9Mz0Ax7c%252BFb5tAy%252FQFP7gX6pa%252BaTFqRTgYA%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2332490&itmmeta=01JF037JBCW8YCD1JBE2KMHFX2
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This is something, I'm hoping Father Christmas might bring me :smiley:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387710533834?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D276806%2C277937%2C277837%2C277738%26meid%3Da42b8fd29c834924a9ee32dfc27a475a%26pid%3D101875%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D387439999353%26itm%3D387710533834%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3DSimVIDwebV3WithCPCExpansionEmbeddingSearchQueryRecallAuctionPushout&_trksid=p2332490.c101875.m1851&itmprp=cksum%3A387710533834a42b8fd29c834924a9ee32dfc27a475a%7Cenc%3AAQAJAAABIM%252BSIK5LCqs2uiCwInhHqGVzIMLIMo0iPltG%252Fc%252FV8dzqXG8bAAbTVw985HbdYTuG2wPTDx%252F8lbe8GSu4NUrsEPcDBvCLFhf2QkBmtTX5yUHKJ%252FPyspO98F9SHeadwCG6%252FvSQvKEUF3wlpXFBcl3Du%252BnMtLTlgUzcGZsh7zHei56k7eh0cCgu56dtNj8zRIgiFWtdm6qF2S1qK26d0eJf9EB6BvqAhDhZ6zs7pOOSUytOt5J5Hoc%252F0bx%252FCdrzs6nG7cgZS5YvENG2cEz5m1HmZ2LLUsjLd8dUGJRhbrDski0qJ8K1sQoxI4r7I5%252FqEAvnKx0OtTjH7ddzfNcOqQJAAngbBK5DynW9Mz0Ax7c%252BFb5tAy%252FQFP7gX6pa%252BaTFqRTgYA%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2332490&itmmeta=01JF037JBCW8YCD1JBE2KMHFX2
Oh that looks nice, I'd like to see one of those fitted.
Not sure about the other type now based on the above, the car definitely needs something mind you, why a black dead pedal with alloys pedals. Mine is DSG, so maybe the other type of one isn't the right one.
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I’ve an AliExpress one in my R and also my wife’s GTD both DSG. I've size 10 feet and it’s grand
The fit is fine maybe the quality isn’t 100% but I don't think it’s bad by any means and it’s one the floor and your foot sits on so not an issue for me
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So, this is nutty “VW think”. You produce a car north of £30k but you omit a feature costing maybe 5 Euros.
Like the 12v plug cover…..plain black plastic as opposed to the identical Audi plug costing maybe 3Eu more.
It’s all differential crap.
Like the front engine cover which used to be standard then omitted at a cost saving of ?????
Even worse on the Mk8 with a dreadful generic VW main engine cover and deletion of the hydraulic bonnet strut.
I love my Mk7.5 GTI but shake my head at the VW factory mindset.
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So, this is nutty “VW think”. You produce a car north of £30k but you omit a feature costing maybe 5 Euros.
Like the 12v plug cover…..plain black plastic as opposed to the identical Audi plug costing maybe 3Eu more.
It’s all differential crap.
Like the front engine cover which used to be standard then omitted at a cost saving of ?????
Even worse on the Mk8 with a dreadful generic VW main engine cover and deletion of the hydraulic bonnet strut.
I love my Mk7.5 GTI but shake my head at the VW factory mindset.
With VW’s current financial woes, I’d anticipate more cost cutting to come during the mk8.5’s lifecycle rather than adding - or reinstating - little features such as those you’ve mentioned.
Another highly visible omission on the mk8 / mk8.5 is the sliding cover over the cup holders in the centre console which IMHO makes it look unfinished.
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So, this is nutty “VW think”. You produce a car north of £30k but you omit a feature costing maybe 5 Euros.
Like the 12v plug cover…..plain black plastic as opposed to the identical Audi plug costing maybe 3Eu more.
It’s all differential crap.
Like the front engine cover which used to be standard then omitted at a cost saving of ?????
Even worse on the Mk8 with a dreadful generic VW main engine cover and deletion of the hydraulic bonnet strut.
I love my Mk7.5 GTI but shake my head at the VW factory mindset.
I agree it's annoying when they are £40k+ cars but if you think how many little bits have been deleted over the last few years and that they may average out at £4 each, I can think of at least 7, then you do that on a million cars, that becomes a rather large amount of money. And tbh, most of them I can do without and rarely give a second thought to.
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For me it started to change after 'dieselgate' - VW stopped their motorsport, cost cutting with the removal of small things as has been mentioned - I even think the dealerships became a lot meaner, questioning all claims no matter how small.
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For me it started to change after 'dieselgate' - VW stopped their motorsport, cost cutting with the removal of small things as has been mentioned - I even think the dealerships became a lot meaner, questioning all claims no matter how small.
I agree; Dieselgate does seem to have been the turning point. The significant Dieselgate fines meant VW were compelled to cut costs and make savings to help fund payment of those fines. As @Watts has said, few ££’s saved per vehicle produced represents a considerable saving overall when you consider the number of vehicles being built.
VW certainly seemed to take a much firmer stance on warranty claims post-Dieselgate.
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Hmmm, I wonder. I used to have an Octavia vRS before I went Golfs. That was def better equipped with nice little touches and vRS branding. Hell, they even gave you an emergency warning triangle!!!
Looking at recent vRS versions, I feel that this tradition of nice vRS touches has continued. (I think the most recent ones may still have the hydraulic bonnet strut?).
The point is that we are not talking about millions of bread and butter Golfs, but a flagship brand within the brand “icon” as VW are proud of boasting. Now the average new GTI is breaking through £40k, they are competing with a host of well equipped rivals and a budget “one size fits all”
mindset just doesn’t cut it.
And so we come back to GTI owners buying vRS footrests, just like I did 5 years ago.
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I've been tempted to find a good quality one but what I find odd is that every one I've seen are for a manual, so slightly narrower and yet I suspect 80-90% of all GTI's will be DSG - so they are producing an item that only really fits a small proportion of the RHD market.
I bet if someone made a purpose designed one to exactly fit a RHD DSG GTI then they would sell a shed load.
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Has anyone ever checked to see if there actually is a diference between the manual and DSG foot rests? My previous car was a manual and if there is a difference, I can't say I've noticed.
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Has anyone ever checked to see if there actually is a diference between the manual and DSG foot rests? My previous car was a manual and if there is a difference, I can't say I've noticed.
Yes, I’ve owned both manual and DSG examples and fitted the same footrest into 5x mk7’s and 2x mk8’s - the original plastic OEM DSG footrest is significantly wider than a manual version.
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So, this is nutty “VW think”. You produce a car north of £30k but you omit a feature costing maybe 5 Euros.
Like the 12v plug cover…..plain black plastic as opposed to the identical Audi plug costing maybe 3Eu more.
It’s all differential crap.
Like the front engine cover which used to be standard then omitted at a cost saving of ?????
Even worse on the Mk8 with a dreadful generic VW main engine cover and deletion of the hydraulic bonnet strut.
I love my Mk7.5 GTI but shake my head at the VW factory mindset.
With VW’s current financial woes, I’d anticipate more cost cutting to come during the mk8.5’s lifecycle rather than adding - or reinstating - little features such as those you’ve mentioned.
Another highly visible omission on the mk8 / mk8.5 is the sliding cover over the cup holders in the centre console which IMHO makes it look unfinished.
There is still an engine cover on the 8.5,
Weirdly that sliding cover over the cup holder is still there on Chinese market Mk8 golfs.
(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZjqKHHM/IMG-4566.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1cKvds7)
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So, this is nutty “VW think”. You produce a car north of £30k but you omit a feature costing maybe 5 Euros.
Like the 12v plug cover…..plain black plastic as opposed to the identical Audi plug costing maybe 3Eu more.
It’s all differential crap.
Like the front engine cover which used to be standard then omitted at a cost saving of ?????
Even worse on the Mk8 with a dreadful generic VW main engine cover and deletion of the hydraulic bonnet strut.
I love my Mk7.5 GTI but shake my head at the VW factory mindset.
With VW’s current financial woes, I’d anticipate more cost cutting to come during the mk8.5’s lifecycle rather than adding - or reinstating - little features such as those you’ve mentioned.
Another highly visible omission on the mk8 / mk8.5 is the sliding cover over the cup holders in the centre console which IMHO makes it look unfinished.
There is still an engine cover on the 8.5,
Weirdly that sliding cover over the cup holder is still there on Chinese market Mk8 golfs.
(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZjqKHHM/IMG-4566.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1cKvds7)
I think @P6GTD is referring to the additional cover that sits in front of the main engine cover that can be seen in the picture below;
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLVbwTKj/IMG-1759.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Agree, it does seem strange that mk8 Golf for the Chinese market still has a sliding cup holder cover. However, I think the Golf for the Chinese market is built locally in China and the spec of those cars is probably different to German built Golf’s for the European / UK market; that was certainly the case a few years back with the Golf-based Jetta saloon. I was fortunate enough to have a holiday in China back in the early 2010’s (a really interesting country!); at that time, there were little - but noticeable - spec differences on mk5 Golf-based Jettas (commonly used as a taxi in China) that I travelled in compared to an equivalent UK spec Jetta.
Apologies for adding to the off topic content of this discussion topic :embarrassed:.
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Yes, I did mean the front engine cover. I fitted one around the time that I bought my Audi 12v chrome plug and my vRS footrest. It’s the little things!
And lifting the bonnet of a 7.5 you see a main engine cover that is a thing of beauty, (if that’s your particular kink). Open the bonnet of a Mk8?….not so much. It’s just a generic piece of plastic.
The point of any GTI is not just the performance or handling, it’s the little aesthetic things that make you smile…….or it should be.
Anyway, GTI rant over. I’m off to polish my engine cover. :laugh: :laugh:
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Yes, I’ve owned both manual and DSG examples and fitted the same footrest into 5x mk7’s and 2x mk8’s - the original plastic OEM DSG footrest is significantly wider than a manual version.
That’s interesting, if that’s the case how do these Chinese footrests sit over the top of the standard one, or does the standard one come out first?
Are they all generally the same quality, you’ve got good experience on these, which one is the best fitting Exonian?
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Yes, I did mean the front engine cover. I fitted one around the time that I bought my Audi 12v chrome plug and my vRS footrest. It’s the little things!
And lifting the bonnet of a 7.5 you see a main engine cover that is a thing of beauty, (if that’s your particular kink). Open the bonnet of a Mk8?….not so much. It’s just a generic piece of plastic.
The point of any GTI is not just the performance or handling, it’s the little aesthetic things that make you smile…….or it should be.
Anyway, GTI rant over. I’m off to polish my engine cover. :laugh: :laugh:
I bought a manifold cover for mine, looks mint. The missus shook her head in despair when I showed it to her😂
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Yes, I did mean the front engine cover. I fitted one around the time that I bought my Audi 12v chrome plug and my vRS footrest. It’s the little things!
And lifting the bonnet of a 7.5 you see a main engine cover that is a thing of beauty, (if that’s your particular kink). Open the bonnet of a Mk8?….not so much. It’s just a generic piece of plastic.
The point of any GTI is not just the performance or handling, it’s the little aesthetic things that make you smile…….or it should be.
Anyway, GTI rant over. I’m off to polish my engine cover. :laugh: :laugh:
Ah ok, I also added one of those manifold covers to my Mk7 GTI, fitted the aluminium footrest to it too, will probably add the footrest to my 8.5 if I can find a reasonably priced good quality one.
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I’ve ordered a footrest😀
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So, the front engine cover or manifold cover was standard on the Mk7 and deleted from the 7.5.
One had to wonder
A : why VW fitted it originally and
B : why they deleted it
It costs £60 to £70 to buy this simple piece of plastic but ordering and fitting half a million would have cost VW literally pennies on a car with a list price of over £30K.
If it was good enough to fit in the first place then for goodness sake why not leave it in the spec???
I’m beginning to sound like Mr Angry from Purley. My wife says I’m like Victor Meldrew😂
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So, the front engine cover or manifold cover was standard on the Mk7 and deleted from the 7.5.
One had to wonder
A : why VW fitted it originally and
B : why they deleted it
It costs £60 to £70 to buy this simple piece of plastic but ordering and fitting half a million would have cost VW literally pennies on a car with a list price of over £30K.
If it was good enough to fit in the first place then for goodness sake why not leave it in the spec???
I’m beginning to sound like Mr Angry from Purley. My wife says I’m like Victor Meldrew😂
At the risk of making your blood pressure even worse, the penny pinching goes even deeper, from the small but significant like deleting the under seat drawers and glove box lock to the the super stingy when they removed the tiny plastic trim triangles from the door mirror attachment bolts leaving them uncovered - that last one must’ve been literally tuppence per unit saved.
Yes, I’ve owned both manual and DSG examples and fitted the same footrest into 5x mk7’s and 2x mk8’s - the original plastic OEM DSG footrest is significantly wider than a manual version.
That’s interesting, if that’s the case how do these Chinese footrests sit over the top of the standard one, or does the standard one come out first?
Are they all generally the same quality, you’ve got good experience on these, which one is the best fitting Exonian?
The Chinese footrests replace the original plastic ones, they don’t cover them.
One bolt and some push in clips is all it takes, literally a ten minute job once you’ve found the torx bit at the bottom of your toolbox.
Quality wise I’d imagine they vary. I’ve used the same footrest over and again in each subsequent car. It’s got to be ten years old by now I’d think. Every time I change car I spend ten minutes swapping the footrest back over. Mine looks a bit ‘used’ but still pretty tidy all things considered.
The fit isn’t as perfect as OEM, it takes a bit more jiggling to seat it correctly, but that’s just mine, I’m sure most fit much better.
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So, the front engine cover or manifold cover was standard on the Mk7 and deleted from the 7.5.
One had to wonder
A : why VW fitted it originally and
B : why they deleted it
It costs £60 to £70 to buy this simple piece of plastic but ordering and fitting half a million would have cost VW literally pennies on a car with a list price of over £30K.
If it was good enough to fit in the first place then for goodness sake why not leave it in the spec???
I’m beginning to sound like Mr Angry from Purley. My wife says I’m like Victor Meldrew😂
I can vaguely remember reading many years ago that the manifold cover was deleted as there had been a few instances of it coming detached from its mounting points, making it a safety (fire?) risk. However, if that’s the case then why is it still available to buy?
More penny pinching on the latest Polo GTI land presumably all other VW’s - not just the Polo; the engine compartment and underside of the bonnet are left in a grey primered state and no longer painted body colour. Can be seen on the screenshot below - red offside front wing, inner wing and underside of bonnet in grey primer saving VW a couple of £’s on paint costs.
(https://i.postimg.cc/MGL3CGMf/IMG-1761.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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So, the front engine cover or manifold cover was standard on the Mk7 and deleted from the 7.5.
One had to wonder
A : why VW fitted it originally and
B : why they deleted it
It costs £60 to £70 to buy this simple piece of plastic but ordering and fitting half a million would have cost VW literally pennies on a car with a list price of over £30K.
If it was good enough to fit in the first place then for goodness sake why not leave it in the spec???
I’m beginning to sound like Mr Angry from Purley. My wife says I’m like Victor Meldrew😂
I can vaguely remember reading many years ago that the manifold cover was deleted as there had been a few instances of it coming detached from its mounting points, making it a safety (fire?) risk. However, if that’s the case then why is it still available to buy?
More penny pinching on the latest Polo GTI land presumably all other VW’s - not just the Polo; the engine compartment and underside of the bonnet are left in a grey primered state and no longer painted body colour. Can be seen on the screenshot below - red offside front wing, inner wing and underside of bonnet in grey primer saving VW a couple of £’s on paint costs.
(https://i.postimg.cc/MGL3CGMf/IMG-1761.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I’m currently driving a Kings Red 24 plate Taigo Rline as a courtesy vehicle, I was surprised to find that the underside of the bonnet is fully painted, as are the suspension turrets and bulkhead, but only the upper part of the inner wings.
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The Chinese footrests replace the original plastic ones, they don’t cover them.
One bolt and some push in clips is all it takes, literally a ten minute job once you’ve found the torx bit at the bottom of your toolbox.
Quality wise I’d imagine they vary. I’ve used the same footrest over and again in each subsequent car. It’s got to be ten years old by now I’d think. Every time I change car I spend ten minutes swapping the footrest back over. Mine looks a bit ‘used’ but still pretty tidy all things considered.
The fit isn’t as perfect as OEM, it takes a bit more jiggling to seat it correctly, but that’s just mine, I’m sure most fit much better.
Ok great that all makes sense, thank you Exonian :smiley:
Will see about getting one of these, even I could manage fitting that I think!
Sounds like a good investment for future Golfs :laugh:
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Ok great that all makes sense, thank you Exonian :smiley:
Will see about getting one of these, even I could manage fitting that I think!
Sounds like a good investment for future Golfs :laugh:
I just remembered, there’s a fitting guide in the mk7 section:
https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276795.0
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I just remembered, there’s a fitting guide in the mk7 section:
https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276795.0
Brilliant thanks :smiley:
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I picked up a dead pedal for £15 on eBay, said it was from China but arrived in less than a week. 5mins to fit today, looks much better than the plastic pedal.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kMYKvr5N/IMG-4232.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqHX94Mq)
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I picked up a dead pedal for £15 on eBay, said it was from China but arrived in less than a week. 5mins to fit today, looks much better than the plastic pedal.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kMYKvr5N/IMG-4232.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqHX94Mq)
The only thing with the dead pedals like yours that are easily available, is that they are for manual transmission cars, this is why they differ in shape to the one you took off, DSG dead pedals are available, but most appear to be an aluminium plate riveted to the OEM black dead pedal, I bought one like yours in the past and fitted it to a previous GTI which was fine, I bought another to fit to my current 8.5, but because of the shape difference I never fitted it, for most it won’t matter, but for me, I didn’t like that it was wrong.
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The only thing with the dead pedals like yours that are easily available, is that they are for manual transmission cars, this is why they differ in shape to the one you took off, DSG dead pedals are available, but most appear to be an aluminium plate riveted to the OEM black dead pedal, I bought one like yours in the past and fitted it to a previous GTI which was fine, I bought another to fit to my current 8.5, but because of the shape difference I never fitted it, for most it won’t matter, but for me, I didn’t like that it was wrong.
Yes I couldn’t find something like this that was for DSG, I looked at the alloy plates that stick onto the existing dead pedal, but didn’t like that idea or the look of them. This is the best option in my opinion that looks better than the plastic pedal. To the untrained eyes, this looks factory, we of course know different, all good if this doesn’t bother you. If a decent DSG one pops up, I might change as it’s a 5min job, post one up here if you find one, I’ll do the same :smiley: